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The Narcissist in Chief
Canada Free Press ^ | 06/18/2009 | Joy Tiz

Posted on 06/19/2009 6:13:31 PM PDT by jazminerose

Telegraph reporter Stephanie Gutmann describes her reaction to Barack Obama’s appearance in Berlin: “After it was over I picked up the phone and called a friend back home. ‘It’s worse than we thought,’ I told him. ‘The guy’s actually crazy.’”

Guttman was talking about candidate Obama’s agenda as he presented it that day, in which he promised to take on the terrorists in Afghanistan, take on the drug dealers, rebuild Afghanistan, eliminate the building nuclear threat, secure all loose nukes, decrease arsenals from another era, form a new global partnership that will end terror networks, redistribute wealth, save the planet, withdraw all troops from Iraq, keep the oceans from rising, end famine, and reduce carbon output. Most politicians would have quit after two or three such ambitious proposals.

Incredibly, there are Obamanutz among us who honestly don’t realize that Barack Obama is a narcissist of the worst kind.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhoeurope; bhovisit; danger; narcissism; obama; obamamessiah; psychopathology; theguysactuallycrazy
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1 posted on 06/19/2009 6:13:31 PM PDT by jazminerose
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To: jazminerose

Blasphemy


2 posted on 06/19/2009 6:21:32 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: jazminerose

Love those Canadians.


3 posted on 06/19/2009 6:24:43 PM PDT by svcw
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To: jazminerose

I’m not a big fan of these psychological evaluations from afar. Every president is subject to them and found mentally ill by certain segments of the opposition. It gets old. Obama may be more narcissistic than average, but what presidential candidate isn’t? It’s not his narcissism that is the problem it’s his inability to see that everything he knows isn’t so.


4 posted on 06/19/2009 6:26:26 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Minn
It’s not his narcissism that is the problem it’s his inability to see that everything he knows isn’t so.

Which wouldn't be a problem were it not for his narcissism.

5 posted on 06/19/2009 6:33:49 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Bingo!


6 posted on 06/19/2009 6:37:05 PM PDT by jazminerose
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To: Minn
Obama may be more narcissistic than average, but what presidential candidate isn’t?

Reagan perhaps. George Washington certainly.

The author makes an interesting distinction between a puffed up ego and narcissism, that challenges the idea of even blow hards of necessarily being a narcissist.

Every president is subject to them and found mentally ill by certain segments of the opposition. It gets old.

An even older and ubiquitous trend is for some to conclude the president is doing well, yet some conclude they are not, and yet others conclude its a mixed bag. However, old and common these patterns are, one of these groups is more correct than the others.

7 posted on 06/19/2009 6:38:22 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear
Give him a break already, he has only been in office for what seems like 5 years.
CBS, ABC, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, BBC America, and NBC are all reporting that the President passed gas today. All the reporters who were able to get a whiff before the rush of the media caused it to dissipate report that it was a very pleasant smell seeped in purity.
8 posted on 06/19/2009 6:45:22 PM PDT by Wooly
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To: AndyTheBear

If you read the article, it says having narcissitic traits doesn’t make you a pathological narcissist.

Narcissim is a continuum as are all psychological traits.


9 posted on 06/19/2009 6:49:52 PM PDT by jazminerose
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To: Minn
It’s not his narcissism that is the problem it’s his inability to see that everything he knows isn’t so.

Yet, isn't that a main part of narcissism? I'm no fan of psychological evals from afar, either, yet it's important we understand what we're up against. I contend this guy isn't a "run of the mill" narcissist. This isn't a case of yet another arrogant politician, this is a guy who *literally* sees himself as a kind of god. And, no, I'm not kidding. People like that CAN'T be reasoned with. At all.

10 posted on 06/19/2009 6:52:57 PM PDT by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: jazminerose
"Barack Obama is a narcissist of the worst kind."

Dr. Charles Krauthammer, a very respectable psychiatrist, has also noted that Obama is a narcissist.

11 posted on 06/19/2009 6:53:32 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: jazminerose

If one would but read the article one would see that the author give examples of almost every instance of the characteristics of the narcissist. I thought I was going to have to do it myself and could think of examples illustrating every symptom listed.

ZERO is off his nut, is already dangerous and as his narcissistic supply wanes he will lash out becoming every more dangerous. He is cracking already and we will be the victims. If he makes it to run for reelection and is rebuffed he will become hellish.


12 posted on 06/19/2009 6:56:51 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: Minn

“It?s not his narcissism that is the problem it?s his inability to see that everything he knows isn?t so.”

Um, that’s part of narcissistic personality disorder, a key part actually. Also, NPD is to typical politicians’ narcissism what ebola is to a cold...


13 posted on 06/19/2009 6:57:30 PM PDT by piytar (Take back the language: Obama axing Chrystler dealers based on political donations is REAL fascism!)
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To: jazminerose
Ignoring the mention S. Vaknin, this is an exceptional article. I look forward to reading the author's book.
14 posted on 06/19/2009 7:01:23 PM PDT by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: Prole

Dr Krauthammer is one I take seriously, the man is absolutely brilliant & a trained psychiatrist.


15 posted on 06/19/2009 7:03:11 PM PDT by jazminerose
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To: jazminerose
Narcissim is a continuum as are all psychological traits.

Skill at basket ball is a continuum. And some people are notably good at it. Particularly people in the NBA which tend to be way better at it then the general public. And within the NBA, it still makes sense to to try to determine if some players are better at basketball then others. Particularly if you are a involved in a franchise, or even from afar as a sports commentator.

But wait! Basket ball skill is subjective. So who are we to say that NBA star Michael Jordan really plays better than the actor Danny Devito?

16 posted on 06/19/2009 7:06:52 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: jazminerose
He is brilliant. And has the ability to translate his thoughts into terms we can all absorb.

What I am worried about is that the narcissism within uhbama that is so extremely blatant and surely could be classified as neurotic is so totally missed by the main press reporters and commentators for the major news networks except for Fox.

I mean...is it possible that cris matthews and charlie gibson (what a flack! get the kneepads out fast!) and matt lauer and olbermann and of the sheeple are really that stupid? That blind that they actually do not see what a narcissistic slug uhbama is? My husband says yes, but I dunno. Sometimes I think they CHOOSE to ignore it because they are corrupted, themselves.

17 posted on 06/19/2009 7:10:44 PM PDT by Republic (Jedem das Seinesc)
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To: jazminerose

bookmark


18 posted on 06/19/2009 7:13:24 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Wooly

LOL


19 posted on 06/19/2009 7:17:56 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Republic
A pathological narcissist can be very charismatic — a master of molding themselves to a situation to please whomever they perceive to have the power or approval which they seek. Because they mold themselves so well, they are masters at fooling even intelligent people. It's part of the development of pathological narcissism in childhood. The child needs to survive their circumstances and therefore they become what they must to survive — NOT at all to say that this justifies the adult behaviour. It doesn't. It does, however, explain why so many people can be fooled by them.
20 posted on 06/19/2009 7:18:45 PM PDT by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: Prole
"Dr. Charles Krauthammer, a very respectable psychiatrist, has also noted that Obama is a narcissist."

Sociopath?

yitbos

21 posted on 06/19/2009 7:19:25 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: All

This explains it all better than any I have ever seen:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html


22 posted on 06/19/2009 7:19:47 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: FourPeas
Thanks -very informative. I believe there is lizard that can change colors in order to protect himself, I suppose uhbama as a child did the same with his personality.

This man is so in love with himself I am surprised there is room for michelle or his children. My gosh...he could teach clinton!

23 posted on 06/19/2009 7:23:23 PM PDT by Republic (Jedem das Seinesc)
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To: Minn
"his inability to see that everything he knows isn’t so."---IS his Narcissm. It begins and ends with him.

vaudine

24 posted on 06/19/2009 7:33:09 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Republic
he could teach clinton

Indeed -- and, a scary thought, too! Just as Obama could teach Clinton, so Michelle could teach Hillary. I feel sorry for their girls. Their lives will be very difficult unless there is someone for them who can actually give them love and show them approval. To a pathological narcissist, those around them are not human; they are things to be manipulated for the narcissist's pleasure. Children are possessions to be displayed and to bring praise and pride to the narcissist.

Uh, time to get off my soapbox.

25 posted on 06/19/2009 7:33:55 PM PDT by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: jazminerose

Let’s not forget the opportunity that this presents us. Narcissists are horrible to deal with, esp. If they have power over you.(Cf abusive relationships). That said, if you recognize that you are dealing with a narcissist early enough, they can be easily manipulated. One of the best techniques is to turn them against their allies until they are alone or weak. To that end, we should push each and every time the donks and his sychophants cross zero so he blames THEM for his loss of ego-boosting adoration. Any people with connections to talk radio lurking? Do that, and zero will burn his own allies until he is alone and politically vulnerable.


26 posted on 06/19/2009 7:45:30 PM PDT by piytar (Take back the language: Obama axing Chrystler dealers based on political donations is REAL fascism!)
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To: piytar

Nice strategy!

I was watching a History Channel program about all the WORST Roman Emperors. Every one of them reminded me of Zero. Deranged narcissists...all of whom made enemies everywhere and were either murdered (by those close to them) or committed sucide.


27 posted on 06/19/2009 7:48:50 PM PDT by Palladin (David Letterman is a dirty old man.)
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To: Republic

“My gosh...he could teach clinton!”

Next to Obama, Clinton seems almost normal.


28 posted on 06/19/2009 7:51:25 PM PDT by Palladin (David Letterman is a dirty old man.)
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To: vaudine; FourPeas; piytar
"his inability to see that everything he knows isn’t so."---IS his Narcissm. It begins and ends with him

Um, that’s part of narcissistic personality disorder, a key part actually.

Yet, isn't that a main part of narcissism?

No, no, and no. Having been married to a way out there narcissist for 10 years, and studying the disorder extensively to understand what I was dealing with, I agree with the items listed in the article as symptoms and characteristics of narcissism. Thinking one is special is one factor. But the primary and destructive thing is the lack of empathy; not really giving a damn about anybody near you, or anybody at all when you get down to it. How does a life of believing ridiculous leftist bromides, and not having the wisdom to see how stupid that is, make one a narcissist? Do you get the impression he really doesn't care for his family? I haven't seen it. Being a fool and being a narcissist are two things, not necessarily related.

29 posted on 06/19/2009 8:01:02 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Minn
"his inability to see that everything he knows isn’t so."

A narcissist believes he can NEVER be wrong. Grandiose. Never admits he's wrong. A self that is SO fragile, that admitting being wrong is to destroy the entire illusion of self.

How does a life of believing ridiculous leftist bromides, and not having the wisdom to see how stupid that is, make one a narcissist?

This is what he was taught from childhood from the people he had to please to exist. Crazy mother. Crazy father/mentor, Frank(?) whats-his-name. Nutso leftist grandparents. The people on whom the child depended for his survival.

These are also the tenants that give him the narcissistic supply he desires. The screaming masses that praise him when he repeats the socialist tripe. He may truly believe in the rhetoric he spews, then again he may not even care. The desired effect is the admiration, the power, the narcissistic supply of those around him who look up to him, fawn over him, and seek his presence.

Do you get the impression he really doesn't care for his family?

Yes. As the child of a narcissist, I do. I see it in him and his wife. I fear for his children. Fear, as in I know the road they'll walk. To him, they are things. Props to make him look better. I don't say this lightly. I don't say this with pleasure. This isn't projection. I don't see this in every person who disagrees with me, or every political candidate whose views are different from mine. I *do* see it in Barack Obama. Strongly. It's creepy.

Being a fool and being a narcissist are two things, not necessarily related.

I agree completely. Barack Obama is a pathological narcissist, not a fool.

30 posted on 06/19/2009 8:32:15 PM PDT by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: Republic
He is brilliant. And has the ability to translate his thoughts into terms we can all absorb.

He's also unencumbered by having the moral character to try and tell the truth about anything. There are a zillion examples, but when he introduced the new CAFE standards, he claimed the new cars would cost $1300 more, but we'd make it up at the pump. He has no clue what it will cost per unit to raise the CAFE standards. It sounded good, so he said it.

31 posted on 06/19/2009 8:39:58 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Richard Kimball; Republic

I think Republic may have been referring to Krauthammer as the brilliant one. Personally, I’m not convinced that Obama is in that league, intellectually speaking. If he’s so sharp, why can’t he talk without a teleprompter? But I agree with you, RK, about Obama’s relationship to the truth. Eventually more people are going to see it, and O’s poll numbers will slowly but surely erode.


32 posted on 06/19/2009 9:26:00 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: jazminerose
How did over half of the country not notice?...well, there is also the psychiatric term "Folie a deux" - the craziness of two, in which the pathologies of two people complement and play off of each other creating a super craziness more potent and relentless than that of each by itself. With Obama and half the country, we seem to have a "Folie de plus", in which Obama's need for power and the adoration of the masses meshes perfectly with the need of much of the population to feel that they are more righteous and sophisticated than others, and are involved in a great movement which will lift them above their ordinary, drab lives - they vote for the Obama who promises change and hope, and he provides them with the inspiration and superiority they can't obtain otherwise - and neither side has enough insight to break the bond - it's a scary and dangerous sickness.....

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - from Charles McKay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, on the Dutch Tulip mania of the 17th century.....

33 posted on 06/19/2009 9:38:34 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Prole

Probably “Muenchhausen Syndrome” as well.


34 posted on 06/19/2009 10:17:24 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Prole

Probably “Muenchhausen Syndrome” as well.


35 posted on 06/19/2009 10:18:11 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Minn

“Thinking one is special is one factor. But the primary and destructive thing is the lack of empathy;”

You are saying nothing that disagrees with what I said. -n fact, the distorted worldview is part and parcel of the whole, spring for the lack of empathy and the distorted worldview that inevitably results. (If you think you are the only “real” person, your worldview is by definition distorted.)

In other words you nailed it except for not seeing that we are on the same page...


36 posted on 06/19/2009 10:46:57 PM PDT by piytar (Take back the language: Obama axing Chrystler dealers based on political donations is REAL fascism!)
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To: jazminerose; 1000 silverlings; xzins; blue-duncan; Alex Murphy; Lord_Calvinus; Dutchboy88; ...
This is a great article. Well worth the read...

"...The narcissist in chief's cavernous lack of empathy becomes more obvious as his presidency rolls on.  It could hardly be called empathic behavior when Obama decided to drop all charges against Cole bomber Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri before Obama's scheduled meeting with the families of the Cole victims.

Barack Obama lied to us throughout the campaign and continues to do so as the president.  How did over half of the country not notice?  The simple answer is that we are just not very good at recognizing when someone is lying to us.  Our deception detection skills are inadequate. Barack Obama is acting out his pathology at our expense..."


37 posted on 06/19/2009 10:49:41 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Telegraph reporter Stephanie Gutmann describes her reaction to Barack Obama’s appearance in Berlin: “After it was over I picked up the phone and called a friend back home. ‘It’s worse than we thought,’ I told him. ‘The guy’s actually crazy.’”

It might be blasphemy in sone circles but in others they know it’s true.


38 posted on 06/19/2009 11:02:05 PM PDT by joydocsusie (ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE NO RIGHT TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE USAh)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Telegraph reporter Stephanie Gutmann describes her reaction to Barack Obama’s appearance in Berlin: “After it was over I picked up the phone and called a friend back home. ‘It’s worse than we thought,’ I told him. ‘The guy’s actually crazy.’”

It might be blasphemy in sone circles but in others they know it’s true.


39 posted on 06/19/2009 11:02:06 PM PDT by joydocsusie (ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE NO RIGHT TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE USAh)
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To: AndyTheBear

Ding! We have a winner! Washington was offered the Crown and turned it down. Anyone with even the slightest narcissism wouldn’t have been able to do that. Reagan, too, was driven by his faith in God and America, both of which are literally incomprehensible to a narcisist (although they mimic the forms of faith VERY well if it suits their purposes).


40 posted on 06/20/2009 12:13:23 AM PDT by piytar (Take back the language: Obama axing Chrystler dealers based on political donations is REAL fascism!)
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To: Minn
Do you get the impression he really doesn't care for his family? I haven't seen it.
You have to admit that his trip to Hawaii to his dying grandmother was marked by the omission of taking his children to visit her. And that in the aftermath of his nomination acceptance speech he didn't have his family with him onstage as every other major party nominee in the modern history of political conventions has done. People were asking what was up with that . . .

41 posted on 06/20/2009 3:24:16 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: patriot08
RE: your link, lengthy read, but worth it.
42 posted on 06/20/2009 3:50:35 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: investigateworld

Yes, Ali Sina does an excellent job here
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html explaining the sickness of Obama and his enablers.
Visit his website http://www.faithfreedom.org/
This ex-Muslim is committed to exposing Islam and its dangers to America.


43 posted on 06/20/2009 6:22:06 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: jazminerose

Positive dx. The rx is 2010/2012.


44 posted on 06/20/2009 6:37:23 AM PDT by Dysart (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong--Voltaire)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thanks for the ping!


45 posted on 06/20/2009 6:44:52 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Richard Kimball
It sounded good, so he said it.

I observed back during the campaign that he had mastered the art of relating a persuasive (for devotee consumption) canard. Bet he's been refining it all his life.

46 posted on 06/20/2009 6:45:51 AM PDT by Dysart (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong--Voltaire)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
You have to admit that his trip to Hawaii to his dying grandmother was marked by the omission of taking his children to visit her.

Cut him some slack. He had birth certificate business to deal with. What was more important for his girls, seeing great grandma or being the children of the president?

47 posted on 06/20/2009 7:33:49 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: patriot08

She is fabulous. You should see what the pro isalm sites say about her. A lot of hatred from that Religion of Peace.


48 posted on 06/20/2009 8:12:58 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: Fantasywriter
Indeed I was referring to Karuthammer-but it was difficult to tell-bad writing, my bad. I agree with you, I would never call uhbama brilliant. His speaking proves a great lack of ability to think on his feet. Very bad...means others are doing most of his thinking for him.

But he is manipulative, threatening, arrogant, very very creepy, a liar, dangerous, a poor judge of character and very very greedy and narcissistic. He is one big bag of gunk.

49 posted on 06/20/2009 8:53:17 AM PDT by Republic (Jedem das Seinesc)
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To: Republic

Wow—I nominate your post for the Freeper Hall of Fame, if there is one. You summed Obama up better and in fewer words than I have ever seen. Good work!

(Also, I think it’s only possible to fool this many Americans for so long. Granted the public ‘education’ system, the MSM, and even the courts, seem aligned against us. But Obama is too big a disaster even for all these to cover up for indefinitely. I truly believe America will wake up—and hopefully with a vengeance!)


50 posted on 06/20/2009 9:29:16 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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