Posted on 06/19/2009 6:13:31 PM PDT by jazminerose
Telegraph reporter Stephanie Gutmann describes her reaction to Barack Obamas appearance in Berlin: After it was over I picked up the phone and called a friend back home. Its worse than we thought, I told him. The guys actually crazy.
Guttman was talking about candidate Obamas agenda as he presented it that day, in which he promised to take on the terrorists in Afghanistan, take on the drug dealers, rebuild Afghanistan, eliminate the building nuclear threat, secure all loose nukes, decrease arsenals from another era, form a new global partnership that will end terror networks, redistribute wealth, save the planet, withdraw all troops from Iraq, keep the oceans from rising, end famine, and reduce carbon output. Most politicians would have quit after two or three such ambitious proposals.
Incredibly, there are Obamanutz among us who honestly dont realize that Barack Obama is a narcissist of the worst kind.
(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...
Blasphemy
Love those Canadians.
I’m not a big fan of these psychological evaluations from afar. Every president is subject to them and found mentally ill by certain segments of the opposition. It gets old. Obama may be more narcissistic than average, but what presidential candidate isn’t? It’s not his narcissism that is the problem it’s his inability to see that everything he knows isn’t so.
Which wouldn't be a problem were it not for his narcissism.
Bingo!
Reagan perhaps. George Washington certainly.
The author makes an interesting distinction between a puffed up ego and narcissism, that challenges the idea of even blow hards of necessarily being a narcissist.
Every president is subject to them and found mentally ill by certain segments of the opposition. It gets old.
An even older and ubiquitous trend is for some to conclude the president is doing well, yet some conclude they are not, and yet others conclude its a mixed bag. However, old and common these patterns are, one of these groups is more correct than the others.
If you read the article, it says having narcissitic traits doesn’t make you a pathological narcissist.
Narcissim is a continuum as are all psychological traits.
Yet, isn't that a main part of narcissism? I'm no fan of psychological evals from afar, either, yet it's important we understand what we're up against. I contend this guy isn't a "run of the mill" narcissist. This isn't a case of yet another arrogant politician, this is a guy who *literally* sees himself as a kind of god. And, no, I'm not kidding. People like that CAN'T be reasoned with. At all.
Dr. Charles Krauthammer, a very respectable psychiatrist, has also noted that Obama is a narcissist.
If one would but read the article one would see that the author give examples of almost every instance of the characteristics of the narcissist. I thought I was going to have to do it myself and could think of examples illustrating every symptom listed.
ZERO is off his nut, is already dangerous and as his narcissistic supply wanes he will lash out becoming every more dangerous. He is cracking already and we will be the victims. If he makes it to run for reelection and is rebuffed he will become hellish.
“It?s not his narcissism that is the problem it?s his inability to see that everything he knows isn?t so.”
Um, that’s part of narcissistic personality disorder, a key part actually. Also, NPD is to typical politicians’ narcissism what ebola is to a cold...
Dr Krauthammer is one I take seriously, the man is absolutely brilliant & a trained psychiatrist.
Skill at basket ball is a continuum. And some people are notably good at it. Particularly people in the NBA which tend to be way better at it then the general public. And within the NBA, it still makes sense to to try to determine if some players are better at basketball then others. Particularly if you are a involved in a franchise, or even from afar as a sports commentator.
But wait! Basket ball skill is subjective. So who are we to say that NBA star Michael Jordan really plays better than the actor Danny Devito?
What I am worried about is that the narcissism within uhbama that is so extremely blatant and surely could be classified as neurotic is so totally missed by the main press reporters and commentators for the major news networks except for Fox.
I mean...is it possible that cris matthews and charlie gibson (what a flack! get the kneepads out fast!) and matt lauer and olbermann and of the sheeple are really that stupid? That blind that they actually do not see what a narcissistic slug uhbama is? My husband says yes, but I dunno. Sometimes I think they CHOOSE to ignore it because they are corrupted, themselves.
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Sociopath?
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This man is so in love with himself I am surprised there is room for michelle or his children. My gosh...he could teach clinton!
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Indeed -- and, a scary thought, too! Just as Obama could teach Clinton, so Michelle could teach Hillary. I feel sorry for their girls. Their lives will be very difficult unless there is someone for them who can actually give them love and show them approval. To a pathological narcissist, those around them are not human; they are things to be manipulated for the narcissist's pleasure. Children are possessions to be displayed and to bring praise and pride to the narcissist.
Uh, time to get off my soapbox.
Let’s not forget the opportunity that this presents us. Narcissists are horrible to deal with, esp. If they have power over you.(Cf abusive relationships). That said, if you recognize that you are dealing with a narcissist early enough, they can be easily manipulated. One of the best techniques is to turn them against their allies until they are alone or weak. To that end, we should push each and every time the donks and his sychophants cross zero so he blames THEM for his loss of ego-boosting adoration. Any people with connections to talk radio lurking? Do that, and zero will burn his own allies until he is alone and politically vulnerable.
Nice strategy!
I was watching a History Channel program about all the WORST Roman Emperors. Every one of them reminded me of Zero. Deranged narcissists...all of whom made enemies everywhere and were either murdered (by those close to them) or committed sucide.
“My gosh...he could teach clinton!”
Next to Obama, Clinton seems almost normal.
Um, thats part of narcissistic personality disorder, a key part actually.
Yet, isn't that a main part of narcissism?
No, no, and no. Having been married to a way out there narcissist for 10 years, and studying the disorder extensively to understand what I was dealing with, I agree with the items listed in the article as symptoms and characteristics of narcissism. Thinking one is special is one factor. But the primary and destructive thing is the lack of empathy; not really giving a damn about anybody near you, or anybody at all when you get down to it. How does a life of believing ridiculous leftist bromides, and not having the wisdom to see how stupid that is, make one a narcissist? Do you get the impression he really doesn't care for his family? I haven't seen it. Being a fool and being a narcissist are two things, not necessarily related.
A narcissist believes he can NEVER be wrong. Grandiose. Never admits he's wrong. A self that is SO fragile, that admitting being wrong is to destroy the entire illusion of self.
How does a life of believing ridiculous leftist bromides, and not having the wisdom to see how stupid that is, make one a narcissist?
This is what he was taught from childhood from the people he had to please to exist. Crazy mother. Crazy father/mentor, Frank(?) whats-his-name. Nutso leftist grandparents. The people on whom the child depended for his survival.
These are also the tenants that give him the narcissistic supply he desires. The screaming masses that praise him when he repeats the socialist tripe. He may truly believe in the rhetoric he spews, then again he may not even care. The desired effect is the admiration, the power, the narcissistic supply of those around him who look up to him, fawn over him, and seek his presence.
Do you get the impression he really doesn't care for his family?
Yes. As the child of a narcissist, I do. I see it in him and his wife. I fear for his children. Fear, as in I know the road they'll walk. To him, they are things. Props to make him look better. I don't say this lightly. I don't say this with pleasure. This isn't projection. I don't see this in every person who disagrees with me, or every political candidate whose views are different from mine. I *do* see it in Barack Obama. Strongly. It's creepy.
Being a fool and being a narcissist are two things, not necessarily related.
I agree completely. Barack Obama is a pathological narcissist, not a fool.
He's also unencumbered by having the moral character to try and tell the truth about anything. There are a zillion examples, but when he introduced the new CAFE standards, he claimed the new cars would cost $1300 more, but we'd make it up at the pump. He has no clue what it will cost per unit to raise the CAFE standards. It sounded good, so he said it.
I think Republic may have been referring to Krauthammer as the brilliant one. Personally, I’m not convinced that Obama is in that league, intellectually speaking. If he’s so sharp, why can’t he talk without a teleprompter? But I agree with you, RK, about Obama’s relationship to the truth. Eventually more people are going to see it, and O’s poll numbers will slowly but surely erode.
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - from Charles McKay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, on the Dutch Tulip mania of the 17th century.....
Probably “Muenchhausen Syndrome” as well.
Probably “Muenchhausen Syndrome” as well.
“Thinking one is special is one factor. But the primary and destructive thing is the lack of empathy;”
You are saying nothing that disagrees with what I said. -n fact, the distorted worldview is part and parcel of the whole, spring for the lack of empathy and the distorted worldview that inevitably results. (If you think you are the only “real” person, your worldview is by definition distorted.)
In other words you nailed it except for not seeing that we are on the same page...
Barack Obama lied to us throughout the campaign and continues to do so as the president. How did over half of the country not notice? The simple answer is that we are just not very good at recognizing when someone is lying to us. Our deception detection skills are inadequate. Barack Obama is acting out his pathology at our expense...""...The narcissist in chief's cavernous lack of empathy becomes more obvious as his presidency rolls on. It could hardly be called empathic behavior when Obama decided to drop all charges against Cole bomber Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri before Obama's scheduled meeting with the families of the Cole victims.
Telegraph reporter Stephanie Gutmann describes her reaction to Barack Obamas appearance in Berlin: After it was over I picked up the phone and called a friend back home. Its worse than we thought, I told him. The guys actually crazy.
It might be blasphemy in sone circles but in others they know it’s true.
Telegraph reporter Stephanie Gutmann describes her reaction to Barack Obamas appearance in Berlin: After it was over I picked up the phone and called a friend back home. Its worse than we thought, I told him. The guys actually crazy.
It might be blasphemy in sone circles but in others they know it’s true.
Ding! We have a winner! Washington was offered the Crown and turned it down. Anyone with even the slightest narcissism wouldn’t have been able to do that. Reagan, too, was driven by his faith in God and America, both of which are literally incomprehensible to a narcisist (although they mimic the forms of faith VERY well if it suits their purposes).
Do you get the impression he really doesn't care for his family? I haven't seen it.
You have to admit that his trip to Hawaii to his dying grandmother was marked by the omission of taking his children to visit her. And that in the aftermath of his nomination acceptance speech he didn't have his family with him onstage as every other major party nominee in the modern history of political conventions has done. People were asking what was up with that . . .
Yes, Ali Sina does an excellent job here
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html explaining the sickness of Obama and his enablers.
Visit his website http://www.faithfreedom.org/
This ex-Muslim is committed to exposing Islam and its dangers to America.
Positive dx. The rx is 2010/2012.
Thanks for the ping!
I observed back during the campaign that he had mastered the art of relating a persuasive (for devotee consumption) canard. Bet he's been refining it all his life.
Cut him some slack. He had birth certificate business to deal with. What was more important for his girls, seeing great grandma or being the children of the president?
She is fabulous. You should see what the pro isalm sites say about her. A lot of hatred from that Religion of Peace.
But he is manipulative, threatening, arrogant, very very creepy, a liar, dangerous, a poor judge of character and very very greedy and narcissistic. He is one big bag of gunk.
Wow—I nominate your post for the Freeper Hall of Fame, if there is one. You summed Obama up better and in fewer words than I have ever seen. Good work!
(Also, I think it’s only possible to fool this many Americans for so long. Granted the public ‘education’ system, the MSM, and even the courts, seem aligned against us. But Obama is too big a disaster even for all these to cover up for indefinitely. I truly believe America will wake up—and hopefully with a vengeance!)
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