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1.05 pm. Mousavi - Confirmed - IF I AM ARRESTED IRANIAN NATION IS TO STRIKE INDEFINITELY
Atlantic Magazine ^ | 6/20/09 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 06/20/2009 11:56:31 AM PDT by lewisglad

12.02 pm. Mousavi tells he's bathed [ritually] for martyrdom

(Excerpt) Read more at andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iranviolence2009; mousavi; mullahs; murder; resume; tm; youtube
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1 posted on 06/20/2009 11:56:31 AM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

Through twitter. Girl shot to death by basij

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjQxq5N—Kc

Do not watch this unless you are willing to see someone die before your eyes.

I wish I could fly over there with my SKS and help them.


2 posted on 06/20/2009 11:57:35 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: lewisglad

Hate to be a bummer but I predict that within 24 hours he’ll be dead.

I really want this to succeed, but I haven’t a clue what it’s going to take.


3 posted on 06/20/2009 11:58:46 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Obama: slowly sucking the positive attitude out of the US since 11-4-08)
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To: lewisglad

Fats in the fire now. Hope we see a regime change out of all this sacrifice.


4 posted on 06/20/2009 11:59:42 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: struggle
I wish you could, too.

This protest demonstrates the importance of all of us being armed. These people are NOT armed and are unable to fight back against gas and acid being dropped by helicopters or anything using sheer force. They only have themselves and their bodies to offer up.

5 posted on 06/20/2009 12:00:10 PM PDT by Republic (Jedem das Seinesc)
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To: hoagy62

If Mousavi is killed, then all hell will break loose in Iran. With what’s happening there and in North Korea, the world is teetering on the brink of chaos.


6 posted on 06/20/2009 12:00:54 PM PDT by pctech
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To: struggle

How soon before the haloed one invokes Kent State when he is asked about incidents such as this?


8 posted on 06/20/2009 12:02:05 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: SatinDoll

Time for Israel to wait until they arrest Mousaivi and make sure things really go haywire in Iran


9 posted on 06/20/2009 12:02:13 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
Who cares about him?

The guy was a hardass in the 1980s. He was just as bad as I'mANutJob now.

10 posted on 06/20/2009 12:02:23 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Republic

There are armed citizens, and armed basij. Kill a couple of them and take their weapons. The army will not get involved, and has said so. If they get involved, it will be to kill the mullahs, the basij, and the hezbollah cowards ahcmadinnerjacket brought in to stop the revolution.

The people there need to realize they have two choices - become real martyrs for their country, or shut up, go home, and enjoy another term of achmadinnerjacket.


11 posted on 06/20/2009 12:02:58 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: F15Eagle

Letter bomb - then try to blame it on Israel somehow.


12 posted on 06/20/2009 12:03:08 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: pctech
Then the media can proclaim President Zero's Cairo speech better than Reagan's Berlin speech.

Goebells is watching all this with envy from Hell.

15 posted on 06/20/2009 12:04:31 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: struggle

Important statement. But I’m not going to Andrew Sullivan’s blog to read it.


16 posted on 06/20/2009 12:05:41 PM PDT by behzinlea
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Probably but he gives the kids good feelings about feeling good about good things here and and the koskiddy site. This is probably one colored revolution too far and even the nut mullahs have probably figured a way to discredit the methods, or maybe not.


18 posted on 06/20/2009 12:06:43 PM PDT by junta (I am the son of Yacub, who for one welcomes my new overlord Obama.)
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To: F15Eagle

Actually it could be somewhat of a hint if they do blame the CIA or Mossad. If they go heavy on the Mossad, it might indicate tacit approval for their brother Barry.


19 posted on 06/20/2009 12:07:53 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: pctech

No Sir! The world is already in chaos. We just haven’t joined it yet.


20 posted on 06/20/2009 12:08:57 PM PDT by fuente
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To: F15Eagle

He was Khomeini’s PM, the guy who recruited Khan for Iran’s nuke program, and one of the founders of Hezbollah.


21 posted on 06/20/2009 12:09:02 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: struggle
Too bad we cant hand over all the stuff we captured in Iraq to the Iranian people
22 posted on 06/20/2009 12:09:41 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: struggle

316 views so far.

That’s gonna go viral.

Warning: very, very graphic. Probably the most graphic (and certainly one of the saddest) deaths I’ve seen.


23 posted on 06/20/2009 12:10:18 PM PDT by john in springfield
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To: lewisglad

Yet Obama does not support these freedom fighters, instead he tells dumb jokes, laughs while the state run media coos like a baby over his ability to kill a fly.

Thanks to a failed Obama leadership and corrupt politicians, we may see what we are watching, far worse..... on our own streets before all is done.


24 posted on 06/20/2009 12:11:09 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: struggle

Are you telling me that the Iranian military is supporting the people? Who is doing the shooting? Hezbollah-are they dressed differently than the Iranian army? Do the Iranian people know the difference upon seeing them? And the basij? The ones who are reportedly taking over the hospitals. Who are they? Are they a special army of the Mullah’s? Do the folks over there know the difference?


25 posted on 06/20/2009 12:11:11 PM PDT by Republic (Jedem das Seinesc)
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To: struggle

That could be the thing that brings down the mullahs.


26 posted on 06/20/2009 12:11:34 PM PDT by john in springfield
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To: SatinDoll

The regime change horse is out of the stable and there is no turning back.


27 posted on 06/20/2009 12:12:22 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (There is no Far Right.. There is only Far Left.)
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To: lewisglad
Wouldn't it be cool for both Mousavi and Ahmanutjob to mysteriously expire during this chaos?

Just say'n...

5.56mm

28 posted on 06/20/2009 12:15:12 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Wonder what the chances this is a fight between those who want to nuke Isreal and those who want to talk about nuking Isreal. Which is which?


29 posted on 06/20/2009 12:16:17 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: M Kehoe

Don’t forget about the mullahs.


30 posted on 06/20/2009 12:19:26 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: F15Eagle
He was once a big supporter of the Ayatollah Khomeini?

Mousavi was the Prime Minister of Iran in the 1980s. He was a hardliner then and he's a hardliner now. He's just going the Arafat "moderate" route, that's all.

31 posted on 06/20/2009 12:19:35 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Doesn’t matter, once the ball really gets rolling Mousavi may not end up in office anyway...


32 posted on 06/20/2009 12:20:18 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: john in springfield

The first video was pulled. I don’t think this one will last long either.


33 posted on 06/20/2009 12:20:43 PM PDT by neal1960 (This space for rent.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I think that Mousavi is a catalyst for revolution, not the leader of the revolution. It could be anyone in his place. The people are oppressed and see a glimmer of freedom. The more they get oppressed the more they will dig there heals in.


34 posted on 06/20/2009 12:21:28 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Republic
"Who is doing the shooting?"

Not unlike Iraq, there's sectarian, ethnic and even some tribal militia's or militia's that are loyal to a particular Mullah in Iran. I would guess the militia's that are doing the shooting belong to Mullah's that are pro-government.

35 posted on 06/20/2009 12:23:13 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: G8 Diplomat

Kind of hard to get excited about a guy with a resume like that.


36 posted on 06/20/2009 12:23:25 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Who cares about him?

You know what? I was thinking the same thing about Mousavi... didn't he approve of the atomic bomb program? I have to wonder if this is just a power grab with the same ol' boss...

37 posted on 06/20/2009 12:24:18 PM PDT by John123 (Turn on your teleprompter Obama and read your lips... "No New Taxes!!")
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To: pctech

If the mullahs don’t want to follow the Ayatollah Khomeini’s path into exile in Europe, they’d better make sure nothing happens to Ahmadinejad while he’s in Russia.

BTW...does anybody notice that Ahmadinejad is out of sight?


38 posted on 06/20/2009 12:29:28 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: lewisglad
I blame Bush. He showed these people it is possible to overturn a dictatorship and replace it with a decent government. I just hope Iraq keeps it together to show Iran the way.
39 posted on 06/20/2009 12:31:03 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: hoagy62
I really want this to succeed, but I haven’t a clue what it’s going to take.

It's pretty obvious what it is going to take: The Iranian Army -- or at least key units -- are going to have to revolt & go over to the side of the demonstrators. They are the only armed counterweight to the Basij (Revolutionary Guards) and flying columns of Arab thugs. Question is, will they?

40 posted on 06/20/2009 12:31:13 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: neal1960

Really? Wow.


42 posted on 06/20/2009 12:31:31 PM PDT by john in springfield
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To: Republic

The basij are basically unemployed hoodlums who take a check from the mullahs as “religious police.” They arrest kids who drink or date in normal time, and oppress the people in times like this.

Their are reports that much of the police now speaks arabic, which is strange, because almost all of Iran speaks farsi. Many people think that its hizbullah recruits from Lebanon.

The Iranian Army says it will not be forced to participate, but if things get any hairier, you might see them turn against the mullahs. Many of them remember the shah’s rule and hate the basij as well.


44 posted on 06/20/2009 12:36:16 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: lewisglad; All

Andrew Sullivan is doing a great job on these riots.

It’s almost (almost!) enough to offset his asinine demand that
Sarah Palin submit to a first-ever maternity test.


45 posted on 06/20/2009 12:38:02 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: struggle

That was horrifying and soooo sad.

God help these people and I don’t mean by giving them supposed ‘peace’ with a thug regime.


46 posted on 06/20/2009 12:38:25 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: F15Eagle

He was also the person responsible for pushing for nuclear ‘energy’.


47 posted on 06/20/2009 12:39:33 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: john in springfield

The graphic part didn’t get me as much as the anguish in the father’s voice as he’s crying and watching his daughter die right in front of his eyes and know there is nothing he can do.


48 posted on 06/20/2009 12:40:25 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: pctech
"With what’s happening there and in North Korea, the world is teetering on the brink of chaos."

Maybe, maybe not. If the Iranian people succeed in gaining their freedom, we may see dramatic improvements in that part of the world. May God watch over these brave, brave people as they struggle for liberty.

49 posted on 06/20/2009 12:43:30 PM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I think one thing that has really grabbed the attention of the Iranian people is that they know they are screwed and ruled by the Mullahs regardless, but with Mousavi and his public adoration of his wife, the women felt that they might begin to be slightly empowered.

They take a little when they can get it, you know?


50 posted on 06/20/2009 12:45:09 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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