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No Country for Burly Men (why stimulus not working)
Weekly Standard ^ | June 29, 2009 | Christina Hoff Summers

Posted on 06/20/2009 4:33:21 PM PDT by reaganaut1

A "man-cession." That's what some economists are starting to call it. Of the 5.7 million jobs Americans lost between December 2007 and May 2009, nearly 80 percent had been held by men. Mark Perry, an economist at the University of Michigan, characterizes the recession as a "downturn" for women but a "catastrophe" for men.

Men are bearing the brunt of the current economic crisis because they predominate in manufacturing and construction, the hardest-hit sectors, which have lost more than 3 million jobs since December 2007. Women, by contrast, are a majority in recession-resistant fields such as education and health care, which gained 588,000 jobs during the same period. Rescuing hundreds of thousands of unemployed crane operators, welders, production line managers, and machine setters was never going to be easy. But the concerted opposition of several powerful women's groups has made it all but impossible. Consider what just happened with the $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

Last November, President-elect Obama addressed the devastation in the construction and manufacturing industries by proposing an ambitious New Deal-like program to rebuild the nation's infrastructure. He called for a two-year "shovel ready" stimulus program to modernize roads, bridges, schools, electrical grids, public transportation, and dams and made reinvigorating the hardest-hit sectors of the economy the goal of the legislation that would become the recovery act.

Women's groups were appalled. Grids? Dams? Opinion pieces immediately appeared in major newspapers with titles like "Where are the New Jobs for Women?" and "The Macho Stimulus Plan."

(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhostimulus; feminists; hoffsummers; jobs; layoffs; males; men; now; porkulus; stimulus
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1 posted on 06/20/2009 4:33:21 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

As the good liberal Robert Reich said, we can’t just give jobs to white male construction workers. We have to do social engineering with Porkulus, he said.

Why didn’t Porkulus create tons of new jobs? Why is Joe Biden allowed to say we guessed wrong on unemployment, when his administration pushed hard for Porkulus to create jobs on shovel ready projects?????

At what point does this administration take responsibility for things that happen in reaction their policies??????


2 posted on 06/20/2009 4:36:32 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: reaganaut1

“Men are bearing the brunt of the current economic crisis because they predominate in manufacturing and construction...”

When it finally becomes absolutely impossible to build ANYTHING in this country, through attrition and lost infrastructure, we’ll see what an “economic downturn” RAELLY looks like...


3 posted on 06/20/2009 4:38:10 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: reaganaut1
One trillion dollars wasted.

If it had to be spent, and I'm convinced of that, it would have been much better spent rebuilding bridges,roads and power plants.

There is a present need for infrastructure — $1 trillion for that would have made a lot more sense than where it is going to.

4 posted on 06/20/2009 4:38:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Dilbert San Diego

When those men decide to take to the streets..they will shake this country. They aren’t just white men..they are black, hispanic and asian.


5 posted on 06/20/2009 4:38:34 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat

White men decide the election results.

I’m looking forward to next fall.


6 posted on 06/20/2009 4:45:49 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: reaganaut1
More than that, the programs NOW had proposed had vast sums of money next to them--"numbers that started with a 'B' (as in billion)," Gandy said gleefully. "It's impossible to convey just how many hours we put into this issue during December and early January and how fruitful it really turned out to be."

How long will Gandy remain "gleeful" as the economy continues to spiral down the commode, because the market will have its way in spite of the best laid plans.

I know it sounds whiny but its the truth - guys had better get it thru their heads that they stand a very good chance of losing a war they haven't even shown up to fight.

7 posted on 06/20/2009 4:49:01 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: reaganaut1

DH and I counted up the unemployed at church. All are men who worked in construction or manufacturing. Most have young children at home.


8 posted on 06/20/2009 4:52:00 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (Where are we going, and why are we in a hand-basket?)
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To: Cloverfarm

Husband worked in manufacturing for 27 years, all 7 plants in this area went to Brazil.

Luckily, a very nice Freeper is hiring in Kentucky and we are arranging transportation for an interview there (van is reliable, but only vehicle large enough to transport all children at once. Truck unreliable, but if he takes the van, I won’t have a way to get kids around)

So if nothing comes up soon, we are renting a car.


9 posted on 06/20/2009 4:59:13 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: BenLurkin

Ben Just where did it go? does anyone really know?


10 posted on 06/20/2009 4:59:47 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: al baby

I hear only 3-5% has been spent so far.


11 posted on 06/20/2009 5:02:53 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: reaganaut1

Someone mentioned the number of men out of work at church, I, too, see a large percentage of men out of work in my congregation. I cannot remember a single woman out of a job, for most of these women work either in hospitals or government schools. In the near future, the government will be the largest employer in the United States. We can all look forward to sharing in the poverty of a socialist society. Once we go to socialized medicine, the population will be forced to submit to having their lives run by the federal government.


12 posted on 06/20/2009 5:04:12 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex
Once we go to socialized medicine, the population will be forced to submit to having their lives run by the federal government.

Over my dead body.

13 posted on 06/20/2009 5:06:08 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: reaganaut1

bookmark


14 posted on 06/20/2009 5:06:24 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: skeeter
I hear only 3-5% has been spent so far.

The rest goes to ACORN for "organizing" the 2012 election.

15 posted on 06/20/2009 5:08:46 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: reaganaut1

The quickest way to produce more jobs in this country is to weed out every illegal alien who works here and deport them.
The irony of following such a policy, which Democrats would never do, is that the group that would gain the most jobs by following such a policy would be African Americans.
Here in NYC illegals work in high paying factory jobs, health care and the food service industry. Another industry where they predominate is the non-union construction industry.
Without illegals many private contractors who pay their help daily, in cash, would be forced to hire American citizens, many of them African Americans and they would probably never get away with paying them $7-10 an hour. Sure they would probably continue paying them off the books but I’d rather see Americans get that money instead of a third of it being wired every week to Mexico, Jamaica, Ireland, the former Soviet Republics, the Dominican Republic or Haiti.
I know someone who works in the NY Dept of Labor and he told me something I was totally unaware of. Of the above mentioned illegals he tells me that the largest growing population of illegals here in NYC are now Russians (mostly from the republics of the former Soviet Union) and Irish.


16 posted on 06/20/2009 5:10:09 PM PDT by Larry381 ("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
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To: al baby
Over my dead body.

That comes after socialized medicine.

17 posted on 06/20/2009 5:14:16 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: BenLurkin

Someone should ask Zero,again,why we aren’t drilling in the
Gulf and building those 100 nuke plants we so desperately need!


18 posted on 06/20/2009 5:16:03 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Larry381

Russians are all over the Keys as well, most reliable work force down here.


19 posted on 06/20/2009 5:19:30 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: reaganaut1

The stimulus doesn’t have to “work”. The “leadership” can merely decalre that it “is working”, and the sheeple will comply accordingly.


20 posted on 06/20/2009 5:23:45 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: rodguy911

Nothing to do with race but I totally agree. Both the Russians and Irish illegals here in NY are excellent workers.
Both tend to be hard drinkers after work (at least the ones I know) but they rarely miss a day of work.


21 posted on 06/20/2009 5:24:37 PM PDT by Larry381 ("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Why didn’t Porkulus create tons of new jobs?”

Because it was crafted in the 6 months prior by Daschle et al, in back rooms, anticipating that Obama would be elected.

It basically was the omnibus spending plan for every idea the Dems wanted over the next 4 years. The Dems simply used the crisis to get it passed.


22 posted on 06/20/2009 5:24:43 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: skeeter

Yes, the rest will be spent from Aug-Nov. 2010. The American people will never, never figure it out.


23 posted on 06/20/2009 5:25:15 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

or Aug to NOv 2012..............duh


24 posted on 06/20/2009 5:33:59 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Larry381
It's a different world here.
Up until the ozero phenomenon our unemployment was always 0.
Anyone who wanted to to work could always find a job, not so now however.
25 posted on 06/20/2009 5:44:37 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: TWohlford

Actully porkulus was more about buying votes than anything else.


26 posted on 06/20/2009 5:45:31 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: reaganaut1
(why stimulus not working)

Why talk like cave man?

27 posted on 06/20/2009 5:49:23 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: al baby

“Over my dead body.”

I hear they’re willing to count that provision in as part of the bargain. As a matter of fact, I’m sure you’ve read here on FR about chemo being denied in Oregon when assisted suicide is approved.......

I wish I were kidding.

___
On another subject...

Around these parts, I am starting to see not only stores close as per usual, but also grocery stores cut hours and more expensive departments/high cost items. There’s a look in people’s eyes. Even younger ones.


28 posted on 06/20/2009 6:07:48 PM PDT by combat_boots (“No heresy, no wickedness, not even the devil himself, can succeed without first counterfeiting goo)
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To: Larry381

Back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work.

Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal’s after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans.

And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexican Nationals! The program was called ‘Operation Wetback’. It was done so WWII and Korean Veterans would have a better chance at jobs. It took 2 Years, but they deported them!

Now...if they could deport the illegal’s back then - they could surely do it today!


29 posted on 06/20/2009 6:10:02 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann in 2012. With Liz Cheney as Secretary of State.)
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To: al baby

You say ‘over my dead body’

Barak replies - ‘Your terms are acceptable’


30 posted on 06/20/2009 6:13:37 PM PDT by Go_Raiders ("Being able to catch well in a crowd just means you can't get open, that's all." -- James Lofton)
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To: combat_boots

I have some clients that voted for the one they are horrified what he is doing they had no idea Those people still get the 20% surcharge


31 posted on 06/20/2009 6:21:07 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Go_Raiders

LOL


32 posted on 06/20/2009 6:21:29 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: reaganaut1

Men and white people hardest hit!


33 posted on 06/20/2009 6:24:32 PM PDT by Nachoman (Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
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To: al baby

I have lost quite a few friends over the election.

I think maybe in fact the family is better off without them. In the long run, it does matter whom you trust.


34 posted on 06/20/2009 6:27:14 PM PDT by combat_boots (“No heresy, no wickedness, not even the devil himself, can succeed without first counterfeiting goo)
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To: combat_boots

Yeah we lost a few too but one has to wonder if they were friends to begin with


35 posted on 06/20/2009 6:29:05 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: skeeter

“I hear only 3-5% has been spent so far”

Maybe that’s all THEY really have.....


36 posted on 06/20/2009 6:31:34 PM PDT by mo
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To: al baby
Once we go to socialized medicine, the population will be forced to submit to having their lives run by the federal government.

Over my dead body.

...which they are probably counting on to make KenyaKare viable.

37 posted on 06/20/2009 6:32:40 PM PDT by madison10
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To: reaganaut1


38 posted on 06/20/2009 6:34:16 PM PDT by Bean Counter ( Shovel ready...)
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To: madison10

viable. LOL


39 posted on 06/20/2009 6:41:34 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: jessduntno

Men bear the brunt of everything.


40 posted on 06/20/2009 6:51:42 PM PDT by AceMineral (Offically unapproved of since 1973)
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To: autumnraine

Is this the guy offering full bennies and good salary just for aswering phones? If so good luck - if necessary I could loan you a few bucks towards a rental car ...


41 posted on 06/20/2009 7:08:51 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: reaganaut1

Obi is sticking it to real men since they won’t let him join the club.


42 posted on 06/20/2009 7:14:51 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: al baby
Over my dead body.

That's the general plan, I think.

43 posted on 06/20/2009 7:17:53 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: reaganaut1

Henry Ford used to say there are only 3 ways to create real wealth in this world—grow it, mine it, or make it.

Without wealth-creating manufacturing jobs there is no money to support jobs like health care and education. That is what California is learning the hard way.

These NOW women may be gleeful now and congratulating themselves on how clever they are, but they actually quite stupid and are shooting themselves in the foot.


44 posted on 06/20/2009 7:41:32 PM PDT by blue state conservative
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To: reaganaut1
The article raises some salient points, of course. But the author is largely wrong about the following:

Within living memory, the American feminist movement was a valiant, broad-based vehicle for social equality. It achieved historic victories and enjoys continuing, richly deserved prestige for its valor and success. But it has now harnessed that prestige to the ethos and methods of a conventional interest group.

And the author particularly gets this wrong:

Recall that the Obama administration has taken extraordinary steps to insulate itself from the machinations of organized lobbyists, establishing strict limits and procedures for contacts and communications of every sort.

It was apparent to me that the above was almost all window dressing that was intended to impress the credulous, and the author's initial belief in it is evidence it succeeded. If she still believes, the more of a fool she is.

Yet its first major policy initiative was transformed by an orchestrated barrage of emails, op-eds, online petitions, open letters, faxes, phone calls, scripted handshakes, and meetings. And the administration went to great lengths to satisfy its petitioners that their proposals had been adopted directly into law.

No surprise to me, considering it wasn't white males organizing the barrage.

45 posted on 06/20/2009 7:43:14 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Conservatives allow the guilty to be executed but Lefties insist that the innocent be executed.)
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To: al baby
Once we go to socialized medicine, the population will be forced to submit to having their lives run by the federal government.

Over my dead body.

That's part of the plan if you're over 65 or will be soon.

46 posted on 06/20/2009 7:49:11 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: reaganaut1

It was not designed or supposed to work.

It was designed to debauch the currency of the United States.

Wait until 2010 and you will see that it will be working as planned. In fact, drive by your local gas station and you will get a sneak preview.


47 posted on 06/20/2009 7:49:44 PM PDT by sport
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To: Dilbert San Diego
At what point does this administration take responsibility for things that happen in reaction their policies??????

Why should Ubama take responsibility for anything, when there is no independent press in the US to hold him to account? That sick socialist scumbag can brazenly do anything he wants, including fire inspector generals who whistleblow on his corrupt political cronies.

48 posted on 06/20/2009 7:52:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: reaganaut1

...just makes you all want to elect a victim feminist to the presidency, eh?

[Little irony and sarcasm there.]


49 posted on 06/20/2009 7:56:12 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: reaganaut1

Thanks for the post - Summers’s got the insightful thing going - it’s a WOW...


50 posted on 06/20/2009 8:05:01 PM PDT by GOPJ (Chubby people live longer - by years! Hey food police - we're putting a tax on tofu and sprouts!)
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