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TEA Parties are Feel Good Exercises, but won't work.
n/a | 6/21/09 | A Navy Vet

Posted on 06/21/2009 2:41:18 AM PDT by A Navy Vet

Edited on 06/21/2009 6:48:54 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Dear XXXX,

I thank you for your efforts. However, being the first or maybe second (SeekingTheTruth in Florida possibly the first) FR street activist back in 1998, and having done more with other organizations after, I have learned some things over time:

1. FR activists helped to impeach Clinton; the Fedgov leviathan didn’t try him. That said a lot;
2. Being the Chairman, and then Secretary/Treasure of a however small Veterans’ organization (VetsCoR) had little impact, as we reached out to the American Legion, VFW, VietNam war orgs, et al; They simply didn’t want to hear our calls and continue with their Fraternal club stuff.
3. After developing a slide-show called, “With Love and Appreciation” had little affect, other than to make our troops feel good it had NO impact on the average Joe-six-pack;
4. Spending countless hours on the streets and waving flags before anyone even consider it, there was no change in DC.
5. Just recently the Tea Parties were out on the streets in the 10’s of thousands. Did you see a change in the Obama, Reid, Pelosi triad? No, you didn’t. They ignored the Tea Parties and have continued with their head-long rush into socialism.

Bottom line: Demonstrations are a waste of time and effort and resources. So what is left?

ORGANIZED CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE! Think liberal tactics and how they have been so successful throughout the decades. If you’re not willing to do the same sit-ins and chain yourself to the Capitol steps, and face arrest for a misdemeanor (minor fine), than you are failing your Constitution and Nation.

It’s time to rise up. Make a stand. Support Jeffersonian principles, and let these socialist in DC KNOW we WILL NOT stand for more Fedgov intrusion in our lives and industry.

Political parties are the past. Repubs are just a slightly lessor version of the liberal Democrat socialist world they so long for.

What has your vote done for you to restore your liberties? Think GM, AIG, un-confirmed CZARS et al, that the Obama, Reid, Pelosi are doing to our free-enterprise system.

You want to be subjegated or do you want freedom to make your own choices? It will be a very hard effort to return of such Constitutional principles.

Good people will lose their livihoods, others may die or be imprisoned. What is worth to you for your libety? Personally, I will give up all and work in a car-wash if I'm assured the the Fedgov will get the **** out of my life.

STATES RIGHTS!


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1 posted on 06/21/2009 2:41:19 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet

I share your frustration. However, If we give up on these things and succumb to individual doom and gloom, all we succeed in doing is making our own individual lives more miserable. I’d much prefer knowing there were at least more than a handful of like-minded freedom lovers out there than being separatist.....one of these days, things are going to get pushed too far and people, regular tax-paying freedom loving Americans are going to fight back....they have to...or this whole freedom thing is a waste of time.


2 posted on 06/21/2009 2:53:22 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: A Navy Vet

You stay at home, I’ll be at the next Tea Party. Everything has to start somewhere.


3 posted on 06/21/2009 2:54:27 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
It amazes me to see the folks in Iran putting it on the line and we here watch our freedom slip away. Tea Parties are where we START, not end. If Zero has ears, let him hear.

Μολὼν λάβε


4 posted on 06/21/2009 2:58:40 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: A Navy Vet
Despite the media blackout, the tea parties were noticed.

We killed the Shamnesty Bill two summers ago by melting down phone, fax lines and email servers. Job #1 of our Congress clowns is retaining their jobs. Threaten their job survival again and we will stop the fast ride to Obamanation.

I agree that we should take up more of the tactics of the Left as well. The problem there is that we have scruples and morals and are unwilling to violate the law in order to save it.

5 posted on 06/21/2009 3:04:42 AM PDT by Jacquerie (The current tax code is a daily mugging - Ronaldus Magnus)
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To: A Navy Vet
“Good people will lose their livelihoods, others may die or be imprisoned. What is worth to you for your liberty?”

Sounds like the same questions facing another group of Patriots some 200 plus years ago.

As for me, I'm going to pick a fight.

6 posted on 06/21/2009 3:05:05 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Silence in the face of tyranny is the first step to subjugation.)
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To: A Navy Vet

Demonstrations have been known to work.

For example, they threw Johnson out of office and brought an end to the Vietnam War.

Just be patient and give the Rats a little more time to screw up the economy even further ...

7 posted on 06/21/2009 3:07:09 AM PDT by Zakeet (Obama: Always wrong, never in doubt.)
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To: Gaffer

I am slowly coming to see A Navy Vet’s frustration. People in Washington only understand power, money and votes. If you have any of the three, it is as good as having all three. The only time they make a pretense of hearing (NOT listening)is when they want our money and/or our votes.

You write to your “representative” in Versailles on the Potomac and you MAY get a response, full of “I did”. Most times you’ll get ignored.

Delaware is a prime example of what’s wrong with our government: A VP, two Senators and a lone Representative. VP, one Senator and the rep are owned by Bank of America. The other Senator was appointed and has no credentials other than he was Biden’s chief lackey.

We should take note of what is happpening in Iran. People are laying down their lives for freedom and liberty. Couldn’t we sit-in, once?


8 posted on 06/21/2009 3:07:25 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: wastoute

Any fight you run from is an automatic loss! I’ll be there if I have to stand alone.


9 posted on 06/21/2009 3:17:51 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: A Navy Vet

People have to meet and show themselves, and display their talents or else nothing would change.

Hundreds of people getting together for a showing and one or two or three emerging as leaders is how a movement finds leaders.


10 posted on 06/21/2009 3:19:16 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: NTHockey
I also share the frustration that you express.

I attended a tea party, despite my feeling that it allowed the media, in what scant coverage they deigned give to them, to mischaracterize them as as tax protests, ala the original Boston tea party. This trivialized the issues, as the enormous taxes that are the inevitable outcome of Obamatization have not yet hit us. Therefore, it was easy to just fob us off as greedy 'rich folk' who wanted to hang onto our money.

My feeling was that something huge was needed, not a series of small, localized protests that the media could ignore.

They could not ignore our shutting down Washington. We need to converge on there en masse and literally clog the Beltway, effectively paralyzing the city for a day.

Then, we follow up with a demonstration.


11 posted on 06/21/2009 3:27:21 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (How's that change workin' out for ya, Obama voters?)
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To: Markos33

“As for me, I’m going to pick a fight.”

We need to pick our fights carefully.
One of my fears is that there will be a disaster (natural/terrorist/orchestrated) in which 0 will gladly impose martial law confiscating guns and maybe imprisonment for “patriots”.
We need to be “of one mind” and not let some crazy start something before the rest of us are ready. Any of you out there know any military officers? What are they thinking about Obama? They have taken an oath to defend the Constitution, are they going to do that or defend the fascist dictator?
I’m not a young man anymore, maybe I’m like Mel Gibson in The Patriot. DON’T TOUCH MY FAMILY!
keep in mind that FBI and DHS is all over us reading everything we post........................


12 posted on 06/21/2009 3:28:14 AM PDT by vanilla swirl
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I've been to two big TEA Parties and what gives me hope is the diverse attendees. This is not a single group of people these were people from every socioeconomic level. I knew a number of people attending in Cincinnati personally and for every one that was there I know there are four more that were not that feel the same way.

I could be all wrong but this movement will have legs at the ballot box, where it counts.

13 posted on 06/21/2009 3:29:21 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - MARSOC DAD)
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To: A Navy Vet

5. Just recently the Tea Parties were out on the streets in the 10’s of thousands. Did you see a change in the Obama, Reid, Pelosi triad? No, you didn’t. They ignored the Tea Parties and have continued with their head-long rush into socialism.

Come on now. Seriously.You KNOW that the Tea Parties are not intended to nor could they ever in any way change Obama,Pelosi Reid et al...
That was not is not the intention.The intention is to change as many of the American Citizens that can be changed that put those people into office and or allow them to stay in office. The purpose is to show 10’s of thousands of disenfranchised disenchanted, and disappointed Americans that they are not alone in feeling the Government has the Country on the fast track to hell.In that respect they are working.


14 posted on 06/21/2009 3:31:54 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: wastoute
It amazes me to see the folks in Iran putting it on the line and we here watch our freedom slip away.

Precisely.

15 posted on 06/21/2009 3:37:33 AM PDT by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: A Navy Vet

I attended my local tea party.
Some butthead walked the line constantly filming us all.
The feds admitted they were responsible for doing this at ALL tea parties to get a grip on who is an extremist.
So i guess they already know I’m an anti obamma lamma extremist.
I just don’t like socialism. I worked hard for my stuff and i don’t care to have this or any gubmint come take it and give it to others who do not deserve the rewards of my efforts.


16 posted on 06/21/2009 3:39:46 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Gaffer
"However, If we give up..."

I will be THE last man to say give up. I'm trying to tell you folks that I have been there and done that it HASN'T worked! Look where we are now with the Obama,Reid, Pelosi triad that are weekly diminishing out liberties and rule of law.

A bunch of people holding signs in front of the WH in Lafette (sp) Park won't make one iota difference. The obama machine will ignore it, as did the clinton machine.

Without civil disobedience, nothing will change. Mark my words.

17 posted on 06/21/2009 3:44:25 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
I understand your frustration, but TEA parties were only a beginning.

But, it is my humble opinion that as long as we look to Washington, we are missing the problem.

We didn't wake up on Nov. 5th and all of a sudden find ourselves faced with a country on the verge of collapse, taken over by socialist, and ripe for pillaging.

Washington is just where the life blood of the free country called the United States is hemorrhaging from. But there were a million cuts made along the way. The election of 2010 presents us with an opportunity to put a bandage on the bleeding. And this too, the 2010 elections, isn't the solution. It is only a beginning.

It has taken our country nearly 100 years to devolve to this point. That means no one is really alive to tell us, teach us what it was like 100 years ago. But, somewhere back in the recesses of our minds we recall our own childhoods. Church, morality, God-centered, work ethics, plain ethics, etc.

Yesterday the liberal young lady I work with stopped by to chit-chat with ...me. She is only eighteen and will be venturing into college this autumn. She came over and asked me, “What's wrong with our country?” She finds herself needing to work 2 summer jobs this year. And her friends being ...”lazy.” I am not sure what happened in the last 30 days since graduation, but a light has been turned on. Her contempt for her “friends” was very evident
and she is seeing it in context of her Nation's problems.

I'll see her again in about a week. I left her with more a question than an answer though. Is it the government that has taken away Americana or is it the culture? She started to respond right away with how easy it was for her friends to get into college, but I stopped her from answering and told her to think about my question.

Our entire culture has been disassembled to a point where our own expectations for ourselves has devolved. Changing Washington in 2010 won't solve the problem. And we need to understand it won't change until we discuss and start to address our culture.

A people must be morally good in order to have free society. When government must step in to legislate morality all is lost.

18 posted on 06/21/2009 3:50:54 AM PDT by EBH (I am not your comrade, nor sheeple, nor serf or slave; but a Freeman.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"You stay at home, I’ll be at the next Tea Party. Everything has to start somewhere."

Don't even try to give me shit about "staying at home". I have probably done more political protests than you have even imagined. I used to carry a bullhorn in my car at all times.

My experience is telling me that in the era of Obami,Reid,Pelosi, and their idiot voters, your Tea Partys will amount to nothing. Been there - done that many many years ago, to no avail.

The ONLY thing these socialist/marxists care about is their own political survival. CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE is our last hope. Think about it.

19 posted on 06/21/2009 3:57:21 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Recon Dad
"I could be all wrong but this movement will have legs at the ballot box, where it counts."

Repectfully, I think you are wrong. The "ballot box" is not only corrupt, but the idiots who voted for "HOPE AND CHANGE" got it wrong, also.

20 posted on 06/21/2009 4:01:39 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
I started my activism about 50 years ago, I've paid my dues.

What do you suggest, an armed invasion of DC? We have enough loose cannons already, thank you!!

21 posted on 06/21/2009 4:04:13 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: A Navy Vet

“Without civil disobedience, nothing will change. Mark my words.”

Agreed, however...let’s clarify civil disobedience...that does not mean bombs, guns, and violence. It means shutting down the local city hall or federal building, shutting down the local tv station, picketing Chrysler and GM dealers, going to union offices and picketing...now there is an idea!


22 posted on 06/21/2009 4:09:09 AM PDT by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
"In that respect they are working."

Really? Exactly what part of the Tea Partys have caused change? Did they or have they stopped the Obama,Reid,Pelosi socialist/progressive move? I don't see it.

Look, I'm a long time activist, but have come to realize that our incumbent political system is unworkable in accordance with our Constitution. As you probably know, the Founding Fathers never envisioned career politicians. The system is broken...I have the answers, but they would be difficult to implement.

23 posted on 06/21/2009 4:10:32 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Jacquerie
The problem there is that we have scruples and morals

And jobs in the private sector where we're actually required to show up every day.

24 posted on 06/21/2009 4:23:14 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"I started my activism about 50 years ago, I've paid my dues. What do you suggest, an armed invasion of DC? We have enough loose cannons already, thank you!!"

First, I apologize for my condescending remark. You are the exception to the political activist rule. Sorry. And I also paid my dues. I'm 59.

Secondly, NO, I am not advocating "an armed invasion of DC". I say again, I am not for violence.

However, I would support and join those in civil disobedience against those who don't honor their oath to the US Constitution. I will spend the night in jail and pay a small fine. Remember, it's work very well for the liberals through the years. Best.

25 posted on 06/21/2009 4:24:36 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
If you?re not willing to do the same sit-ins and chain yourself to the Capitol steps, and face arrest for a misdemeanor (minor fine), than you are failing your Constitution and Nation.

Looks like I'll be siding with the sane people and "failing" the Constitution and nation.

26 posted on 06/21/2009 4:25:23 AM PDT by jla
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To: A Navy Vet

One thing I’m doing is working to starve the beast. Every little thing I can do tax free, I’m doing.

The Tea parties themselves are encouraging others to stand. The upper middle class town full of white liberals down the road from me is having a tea party on the 4th. They’ve figured out that it isn’t about left or right, its about an out of control government. When I go over there I intend to look for more contacts to barter with over goods and services.


27 posted on 06/21/2009 4:26:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Wpin
"“Without civil disobedience, nothing will change. Mark my words.” "Agreed, however...let’s clarify civil disobedience...that does not mean bombs, guns, and violence..."

Of course not. I never ever meant to suggest such things.

28 posted on 06/21/2009 4:30:44 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: jla
"Looks like I'll be siding with the sane people and "failing" the Constitution and nation."

That's fair. The rest of us at some time in the ever-growing socialist future will carry you as your Great Experiment slides into the abyss. Sit by, we'll do the hard-lifting for you while you watch the NFL or American Idol. That's what we do.

29 posted on 06/21/2009 4:37:59 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Well, It may help us feel good, but that is because we still believe in peaceful protests. Unlike the left who think rocking throwing and bomb setting is free speech.
But if people who represent us in DC refuses to listen, then TEA parties are a first step towards more aggressive actions. Conservatives have never been very good at protesting because we are too busy working, being with our families and going to church to be bothered. Now, since Obama got selected, we are slowly lurching to protesting, and the TEA parties were a good step. A protest without Goverment money, organized by ordinary people with out much experiance in do it and Democrats and Republicans getting together to protest was a great first time thing.


30 posted on 06/21/2009 4:39:34 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( If this be treason, then lets make the best of it.)
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To: A Navy Vet
TEA Parties are Feel Good Exercises, but won't work.

I have to agree. People voted for 0 for a number of reason, but mostly they can be categorized three ways:

  1. Those who voted for him because he was black
  2. Those who voted for him because they saw the rise of the totalitarian socialist state, destruction of the economy, and seizure of private enterprise as a good thing, and
  3. The terminally clueless who don'e even know what the issues are let alone understand them and let the MSM do their thinking for them
Well, he's still black, so the ones who voted for because of that are still happy with him.

Those losers who wanted to see the end of American enterprise have been rewarded beyond their wildest expectations, so they are ecstatic with him, and

The terminally clueless are still terminally clueless and accept the fecal matter that dribbles sonorously out of his mouth as the truth, so they're still happy.

The reverse is still true. 0 and his accomplices know that a little under half of the voters don't like him, and that half demonstrating bothers them not at all because it doesn't threaten his power.

The only way to put a damper on him is to kick out a significant number of Democraps in the next election of the Duma (wouldn't you like to see Pelosi have to work for a living?) or other more condign actions.

31 posted on 06/21/2009 4:42:52 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: A Navy Vet
The Left's "nuclear freeze" movement in the 80s encompassed both the U.S. and Europe. Massive protests were staged when Reagan decided to deploy missiles in European countries to counter the USSR. I recall that protesters chained themselves to the fence of military bases in Britain and were subsequently carried away and arrested (sound familiar?).

The result: The missiles were deployed, the nuclear freeze movement mostly abated and sane people were proven right.

32 posted on 06/21/2009 4:48:57 AM PDT by jla
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To: A Navy Vet
I understand and share your frustration, but I am concerned that what you advocate is exactly what Obama is intending to foment in order to declare martial law and suspend the Constitution.

Obama's goal is to destroy this Representative Republic and replace it with a Marxist Dictatorship with him as leader for life. We must tread carefully as we take back our country. We must regulate the State-Run Media to irrelevance.

33 posted on 06/21/2009 4:49:03 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

My mindset is more in line with swampsniper. The Tea Parties are developing a communications network that bypasses the lame-brains and power-brokers of the RINO-RAT party.


34 posted on 06/21/2009 4:54:15 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: from occupied ga

There is a fourth reason for zer0’s election, that is the dogs, the dead, and the demented couldn’t object when “they” voted for him.

Other than voting, what condign recourse do we have?

I’d love to see the lot of them ridden out of town on a rail, tarred and feathered. But that’s a little too 19th century, I guess.


35 posted on 06/21/2009 5:02:11 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: A Navy Vet

Your point is, and if it is I agree, demonstrations become effect only when they move out of the carnival stage into actual rioting. Before the final stage, everyone is just having a good time…carnival if you will.


36 posted on 06/21/2009 5:18:19 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: TheOldLady
Other than voting, what condign recourse do we have?

What "Navy Vet" mentioned, yet we have to be ready for worse things. You'll notice that the constitutional protected right of assembly has already been classified by the mindless JBT's in 0's administration as "low level terrorism" I'm sure that there are governmental contingency plans for a final solution to the conservative problem.

You don't think that the word for word translation of the 1938 Nazi gun control law into the 1968 US gun control law is the only lesson that the government learned from the Nazis do you?

38 posted on 06/21/2009 5:44:55 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: A Navy Vet

I understand your argument. However until the majority of conservatives feel they have nothing left to lose they will be unwilling to take actions that may result in loss of property or personal freedom. Think frog in pot of water on the stove.

Hopefully the Tea Parties with energize the population so we can elect a new government starting with local elections.

I think civil disobedience is a good place to start. But what actions are suggesting?

I don’t think we are at the stage where we need to start bombing buildings, bridges, etc.
But this day may get here sooner than many think. I encourage everyone to buy guns and ammo just in case.


39 posted on 06/21/2009 5:56:21 AM PDT by Wahoo82
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

> Any fight you run from is an automatic loss! I’ll be there if I have to stand alone.
You won’t be alone.


40 posted on 06/21/2009 5:59:25 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama = Trickle up poverty)
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To: Hardastarboard
And we don't have rent-a-mob labor unions, ACORN or other assorted brownshirts to call up.
41 posted on 06/21/2009 6:05:10 AM PDT by Jacquerie (The current tax code is a daily mugging - Ronaldus Magnus)
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To: Wpin
Here is a good way to get attention without harming anyone. Get groups of people to “run out of gas” on the highways going into the major cities during morning rush hour. This could tie up traffic for hours with very few people required to participate. Think a coordinated effort over most of the large cities in the country.

Be sure to have Obama bumper sticker on the car.

Here in Baton Rouge one car stopped on I-10 in the morning can cause a major backup.

42 posted on 06/21/2009 6:07:09 AM PDT by Wahoo82
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To: from occupied ga
" 3 # The terminally clueless who don't even know what the issues are let alone understand them and let the MSM do their thinking for them " ....
( one of the best definitions of the world ( SHEEPLE ) I have heard )

That fits a lot of people I know who voted for Mr. Obama....

No matter how much I tried to reason with them, they still believed the MSM Gospel truth....

The MSM is the major problem .....

We need a few Conservative Billionaires who would be willing to set up a few ( not just one ) TV networks ( aka Fox News ) to give the Liberal Soup Media ( aka ... ABC,, CBS,, NBC ,, ) a stiff competition and a run for their money....

Yeah, go ahead and protest David Letterman, but, the thing that will force CBS to fire David is their advertisers dropping their revenue adds by average Americans boycotting CBS's advertisers products...


43 posted on 06/21/2009 6:17:26 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: A Navy Vet
Nothing in life is guaranteed. Too many of us have become spoiled....don't want to try anything unless it's guaranteed to work in our favor.

That kind of thinking would put Las Vegas out of business and there would be no stock market.

I come from a long line of "doers" where we all begin as "triers"....sometimes it doesn't work, but often enough it does. Error is an important part of trial and error learning, and failure can be a good teacher.

Too many of us will support our country from our arm chairs, but when it comes to lifting a finger, they'd rather let someone else do it.

"First they came for the Jews...." we all know the rest of that one. Something similar and just as sinister is happening right now and we can choose to be mere spectators, or we can actually stand for something.

The choice is out there....you're in or you're out.

Quoting Benjamin Franklin, it's "a republic, if you can keep it."

44 posted on 06/21/2009 7:04:23 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: A Navy Vet

With all due respect, the TEA parties are the beginning of the civil disobedience; eventually Obama’s thugs will try to disperse us.

If we don’t show up, they won’t start gassing, hosing, beating or shooting us. Unfortunately, until things get loud, no one will be listening.


45 posted on 06/21/2009 7:06:44 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Jacquerie
Job #1 of our Congress clowns is retaining their jobs. Threaten their job survival again and we will stop the fast ride to Obamanation.

Vote out every one of them who will not agree to term limits!

46 posted on 06/21/2009 7:08:25 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: vanilla swirl
keep in mind that FBI and DHS is all over us reading everything we post........................

Whose side will they take when the SHTF? Are they our fellow citizens, or job security seeking bureaucrats?

If you have a personal acquaintance with an individual from either, ask if they are willing to be Oath Keepers, keeping their oath to the constitution against the domestic enemy that the federal government is rapidly becoming.

47 posted on 06/21/2009 7:15:38 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Joe Boucher
Some butthead walked the line constantly filming us all.

How many of the folks present took snapshots or videos of the butthead? Did anyone ask him who he was working for? Was he challenged in any way? Could have been an ACORN operative trying to intimidate them.

48 posted on 06/21/2009 7:19:59 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: A Navy Vet
The ONLY thing these socialist/marxists care about is their own political survival.

Which is precisely why NO ONE should be able to make a career of politics at any one level. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!

49 posted on 06/21/2009 7:24:07 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: A Navy Vet

I totally agree with your premise that we must be willing to “go to the mat”. Whatever that entails. Otherwise TPTP know they can do what they want as we will never move above bitching-n-moaning. I am not ready to dismiss the Tea Parties however and hope that they will ultimately produce what you are suggesting here if resultant actions and changes in the direction of our coutnry are not undertaken. However if they do not I agree 100% that we need to pursue other options. Letter writing, email campaign etc without the understood underlying premise that We The People will stand, fight and protect is meaningless “talk”.

Also it must be understood that we do not have unlimited time.


50 posted on 06/21/2009 7:28:15 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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