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Democrats want California schools to get billions that voters rejected
Sacramento Bee ^ | 21 Jun 09 | Jim Sanders

Posted on 06/21/2009 11:22:27 AM PDT by blueplum

California voters said no, but Democratic lawmakers are pushing to do it anyhow.

The issue involves billions of dollars and a ballot measure so important to schools that the California Teachers Association spent more than $7 million in a failed attempt to pass Proposition 1B.

One month after the initiative died, Democrats are proposing to pay schools the same $7.9 billion that was the heart of the measure and to begin payments the same year, 2011-2012. snip-

The dispute over $7.9 billion stems from complex provisions of Proposition 98, approved by voters more than two decades ago to ensure a minimal level of funding for public schools and community colleges, generally about 40 percent of the state's general fund revenues.

Proposition 98 allows for the state to reduce its funding commitment under certain circumstances, such as a rocky economy, but it generally requires that any such funding gap be closed gradually as times get better.

Argument has arisen, however, over whether and to what extent the state is legally obligated to repay schools for lowering funding in years such as the one just ending, 2008-09, which has been marked by economic free fall.

Proposition 1B proposed paying schools the disputed $7.9 billion, but it would not have resolved the legal question about whether Proposition 98 requires such repayment.

Democrats now are proposing to do both: Pay the $7.9 billion – which has grown to about $9.8 billion – and clarify that schools are owed repayment under such circumstances. Legislation is being crafted for release next week.

The state owed schools an additional $1.4 billion in funding-gap obligations from a prior fiscal year, so the total tab under the Democrats' proposal would be about $11.2 billion, according to the Legislative Analyst's Office.

Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has taken no position.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: budget; calbudget; caleducation; california; educationfunding; elections; schools
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Where is MY vote?
1 posted on 06/21/2009 11:22:27 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum
Just let it burn in…



California voters said no, but Democratic lawmakers are pushing to do it anyhow.

The vote is NO and the communists do whatever they want.





California voters said no, but Democratic lawmakers are pushing to do it anyhow.

The vote is NO and the communists do whatever they want.





California voters said no, but Democratic lawmakers are pushing to do it anyhow.

The vote is NO and the communists do whatever they want.





California voters said no, but Democratic lawmakers are pushing to do it anyhow.

The vote is NO and the communists do whatever they want.

3 posted on 06/21/2009 11:30:29 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: blueplum

vote them all out


4 posted on 06/21/2009 11:32:12 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: blueplum

We already know that neither money nor class size has any effect on the quality of education.

Time to get rid of the unions and start firing teachers that can’t teach. En masse!


5 posted on 06/21/2009 11:35:33 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: TLI

I remember Arnie floating this idea months ago, but no one in the media called him on it. Democrats, as the criminals they are, believe those least capable of managing their fiscal affairs should have dibs on any unapportioned revenues. California is now officially a parasite of the Union.


6 posted on 06/21/2009 11:37:22 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: evilwhitepatriot

LOL!


7 posted on 06/21/2009 11:41:35 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel!)
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To: blueplum
What a f#*ked up state politically....
8 posted on 06/21/2009 11:43:13 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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California voters said no, but Democratic lawmakers are pushing to do it anyhow.

The day is going to come when CA state taxpayers begin to say NO when it comes to paying their taxes.

9 posted on 06/21/2009 11:45:21 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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CA voters may have said no on the spending initiative, but the majority of CA voters elected the pols who now are crapping on the them.


10 posted on 06/21/2009 11:47:45 AM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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Silly Rabbit, laws don't apply to Liberals....

11 posted on 06/21/2009 11:48:40 AM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: ExTexasRedhead
vote them all out

Are those who pay for government a larger or smaller portion than those who live off of government?

If it's the latter, voting may not get them out of office.

12 posted on 06/21/2009 11:48:55 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: freedumb2003
Time to get rid of the unions and start firing teachers that can’t teach.

The teachers may have their hands tied if there is a shortage of cucumbers or condoms.

13 posted on 06/21/2009 11:51:31 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: evilwhitepatriot

The budget crisis does have a silver lining. It has exposed Sacramento as being more responsive to labor unions then the citizens. It is time to vote them all out of office.


14 posted on 06/21/2009 11:51:38 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (Live like there is no tomorrow but save like you are going to live to be a hundred)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

they realize that... the individual will get voted out, but the party is still in control.

and in typical liberal fashion... they know better then the voters, which are just not educated enough


15 posted on 06/21/2009 11:58:23 AM PDT by sten
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To: blueplum

Voters are too ignorant to be permitted decision making power over their own lives, or of course, those of their families. The arrogance and self-importance of the left is breathtaking. And Miss Ahnahld Shriver? He has no position...until Maria tells him what it is.


16 posted on 06/21/2009 12:01:01 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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How exactly do you “repay” money for classes that ended 5 years prior? Many of the students are graduated and gone.

I guess the only way is to pay it out in bonuses or backpay to the teachers and their unions.

Nah, they couldn’t be that greedy...


17 posted on 06/21/2009 12:06:39 PM PDT by blue state conservative
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To: TLI
That applies to any proposition we vote for that the demos don't like.
18 posted on 06/21/2009 12:15:15 PM PDT by Excellence (What Madoff is to finance Gore is to global warming.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
vote them all out

Yes, I agree, but when we do, they'll declare "no" and vote themselves back in.

(As long as they're on a roll).
19 posted on 06/21/2009 12:39:29 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: EGPWS
The day is going to come when CA state taxpayers begin to say NO when it comes to paying their taxes.

That's the bottom line. If enough people simply stop paying, the CA govenment doesn't have enough resources to go after them all.

20 posted on 06/21/2009 12:47:48 PM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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