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Neda: An Unintended Symbol (Presstitutes compare Iran 2009 to Kent State 1970)
CBS News ^ | June 21, 2009 | Daniel Farber

Posted on 06/21/2009 11:54:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On May 4, 1970 members of the Ohio National Guard killed four students and wounded nine others at Kent State University. Some of the students were protesting the expansion of the Vietnam War into Cambodia. Others in the line of fire were just seeing what was going on, or walking to their classes.

Iconic photos of the event appearing in newspapers and television galvanized the nation and inflamed the anti-war movement in the U.S. Millions of students protested and nearly 1,000 colleges and universities were shut down after the Kent State shooting.

Yesterday, a young woman who was part of the crowd in Tehran, either protesting or simply watching the events unfold, was shot in the chest, apparently by Iranian Basiji security forces on rooftops.

Her death was recorded on video, and the gruesome end of her life sped digitally and virally around the world on social media sites, such as YouTube and Facebook.

"Neda," as she was known, has in a matter of hours become an icon for the Iranian protest movement.

Her image has become memorialized in posters, including one in style similar to those that represented the Barack Obama campaign. Clearly, this isn't what she had planned to do with her life.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhoiran; greenrevolution; iran; iranviolence2009; islam; kentstate; mousavi; muslims; neda; nedasoltan; studentmovement
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I'm betting that Mr. Farber wasn't alive in 1970, and only knows what his professors taught him about that era: I don't think Neda was threatening her murderer, (since he was up on a rooftop) like what the SDS peacecreeps at Kent State did to the National Guardsmen. But what do I know, I'm not a CBS reporter...
1 posted on 06/21/2009 11:54:42 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Braveheart "Freedom" speech, 2 minutes.
2 posted on 06/21/2009 11:58:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was very much alive in 1970 and I find the article’s comparison to be appropriate-—you see a difference?


3 posted on 06/21/2009 11:58:34 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and of course they somehow have to draw a similarity to obama. How disrespectful, she had more courage in her little finger than the pathetic excuse for a man has in his entire body...he is a coward.


4 posted on 06/21/2009 11:59:32 AM PDT by joesjane (The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Absolutely disgusting to compare stormtroopers for an Islamofascist dictatorship to American teenage national guard troops who were threatened by aggressive and violent SDS agitators.

THIS MUST NOT STAND! CBS owes America an apology. Call CBS and its advertisers!

5 posted on 06/21/2009 12:00:26 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ditto to what you said.


6 posted on 06/21/2009 12:00:37 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out? Are you scared yet?)
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7 posted on 06/21/2009 12:00:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Rudder

I was also alive in 1970, and I find the comparison insulting. Yes, some of the victims at Kent State were innocent, but some had harrassed the troops, and were threatening them. The Guardsmen overreacted, but they were not full-time Federal troops, either. Neda was killed in cold blood by a sniper on a rooftop, not by scared kids being stoned and threatened by hundreds of Weathermen and SDS anarchists. See the difference?


8 posted on 06/21/2009 12:03:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In memory of my father, Gunnery Sgt., USMC, WWII and Korea, 1925-2002)
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To: Travis McGee

Oh good and brave woman....God has called you home and taken you into His arms. Rest in Peace. Amen


9 posted on 06/21/2009 12:05:30 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Travis McGee
To those of you traumatized by what agony you think "Neda" was in as she lay wounded and died, I can assure you she felt none. I highly recommend the book "How We Die", by Dr. Sherwin Nuland, who methodically using studies shows how our bodies are equipped with mechanisms to make us unaware and even blissful when we have suffered a fatal trauma. You can see it at work clearly in the eyes of "Neda". First as she lay there, she looks confused, disoriented, but not grimacing or in pain. then as blood comes out her mouth and then nostrils, and in the photo shown above, she has an almost disturbing calm over fer face. Dr. Nuland describes in his book a 10-year old victim of a multiple-stabbing murderer, whose mother witnessed her death and was shocked to see a look of surprise and then peace on her face. The mother was convinced her daughter did not realize what happened and did not suffer as she died. We truly have a merciful God who loves us.
10 posted on 06/21/2009 12:08:01 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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The Guardsmen overreacted, but they were not full-time Federal troops, either.

This story was never fully reported or investigated, and the SDS may have had more to do with the death at Kent State than the Guardsmen.

11 posted on 06/21/2009 12:08:59 PM PDT by paltz
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To: Rudder

There’s no comparison between the two.

Tell us what election had been overturned in the U.S., that the Kent State students were protesting against.

Universities across the nation had offices occupied and buildings torched. Banks were torched. Kent state was just another in a series of protests orchestrated by communist funded and sympathizing agencies in the United States.

Who is funding the protests in Iran? U.S. sympathizers?

The National Guard at Kent State was trying to prevent more destruction.

What you had was a bunch of out of control imbecilic students and some under trained National Guard troops who didn’t know how to quell civil protests adequately.

Were there orders from the federal government to shoot the students? Where there orders to drop acid on them from helicopters? Was the media prevented from reporting on the situation?

You really need to pull your head out.


12 posted on 06/21/2009 12:09:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_res__ent of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was alive and in Ohio at the time. My Dad had been a National Guardsman in the 60’s.

I remember my mother saying that the protesters had be threatening the National Guard troops, as you say.

The other thing about this is that NONE of the Protesters at Kent State did not have the option to walk away and go home untouched. If they did not protest there, they went on in their day to day lives.

The Iranians at this point go home to a good chance of being pulled out of their homes and killed in the streets.

No comparison at all.


13 posted on 06/21/2009 12:11:50 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Rudder
Several differences. The Guardsmen in Ohio were not tasked with "crushing" an anti govt movement. Two nights before, the Kent protest had moved into the streets of Kent and substansial damage had been done to private property. The mayor of Kent called on Cowboy Jim Rhodes gov of Ohio for help as the Kent PD was not sufficient to protect the town.

The guardsmen had been on a week of 24/7 duty at a prison riot before their arrival in eastern Ohio. What happened that day was tragic and absolutely inexcusable but it was not the thought of the mayor of Kent, Gov Rhodes, or Pres. Nixon to use deadly force to destroy a protest movement. If the Basji are not operating with instructions from the Supreme Leader then there may be a distant comparison between Tehrah and Kent, but you and I both know whom the Basji work for.

14 posted on 06/21/2009 12:13:03 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Rudder
The agitators (the core of the rioters were not students at the University) at Kent State had burned down a building the night before and were chanting threats at the Guardsmen. When they charged, the firing broke out.

Most of the fire was directed over the heads of the rioters. Unfortunately, some students who were evacuating to escape the riots became casualties as they were loading their cars in a parking lot on a rise opposite the Guard's position.

The video record seen nationally and rebroadcast to this day was heavily edited. For some reason the networks, and CBS in particular, showed footage that made the Guard to appear to be the aggressor.

Local television (I lived in the Cleveland area at the time) showed a lot more footage of the rioters and their unwarranted violence. When the shooting occurred, our reaction was —”It's about time!”

Unfortunately, the Communist rioters and their duped followers only grew stronger after this event — in no small part due to the warped coverage by Walter Cronkite and other Communist sympathizers in the dominating media.

15 posted on 06/21/2009 12:13:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: FreepShop1

The comfort I take in that is very faint.


16 posted on 06/21/2009 12:14:20 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; DoughtyOne

Well said by the both of you.

I was an adult at the time and anarchists were attempting the takeover of our campuses because of the Vietnam War.


17 posted on 06/21/2009 12:14:56 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

18 posted on 06/21/2009 12:16:21 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Travis McGee

Man, that had to be terrible watching your daughter die like that! You will never, never, never forget that, no never! She was so young and beautiful and innocent. Man!!! She was reported to be 16-yrs old.

19 posted on 06/21/2009 12:18:52 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: jazusamo; All

Yes, I agree. I will say that I’m glad to see a number of folks here dispel the idea that these two situations are similar. A number of the retorts have been quite good.


20 posted on 06/21/2009 12:23:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_res__ent of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama)
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