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Neda: An Unintended Symbol (Presstitutes compare Iran 2009 to Kent State 1970)
CBS News ^ | June 21, 2009 | Daniel Farber

Posted on 06/21/2009 11:54:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On May 4, 1970 members of the Ohio National Guard killed four students and wounded nine others at Kent State University. Some of the students were protesting the expansion of the Vietnam War into Cambodia. Others in the line of fire were just seeing what was going on, or walking to their classes.

Iconic photos of the event appearing in newspapers and television galvanized the nation and inflamed the anti-war movement in the U.S. Millions of students protested and nearly 1,000 colleges and universities were shut down after the Kent State shooting.

Yesterday, a young woman who was part of the crowd in Tehran, either protesting or simply watching the events unfold, was shot in the chest, apparently by Iranian Basiji security forces on rooftops.

Her death was recorded on video, and the gruesome end of her life sped digitally and virally around the world on social media sites, such as YouTube and Facebook.

"Neda," as she was known, has in a matter of hours become an icon for the Iranian protest movement.

Her image has become memorialized in posters, including one in style similar to those that represented the Barack Obama campaign. Clearly, this isn't what she had planned to do with her life.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhoiran; greenrevolution; iran; iranviolence2009; islam; kentstate; mousavi; muslims; neda; nedasoltan; studentmovement
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If I recall the Guard was at Kent State because the ROTC building had been torched the night before. Something else left out of the usual recounting of the event.


21 posted on 06/21/2009 12:26:34 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

22 posted on 06/21/2009 12:28:32 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: rawhide

This young girl and those with her are wearing blue jeans and sports shoes. Just like a lot of Americans do. I doubt she was one who was intent on keeping the mullahs happy. I imagine that her “western style” dress played a part in her being chosen as a target by that perverted, sick, raghead murderer who murdered her.


23 posted on 06/21/2009 12:31:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out? Are you scared yet?)
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To: Rudder
Of course there's a huge difference. Surprised you equate the two.

What's going on is official gov't policy. I.e. the government over there is ordering violent suppression.

What happened at Kent State was NOT ordered by the White House. It was one isolated incident. Exacerbated, I might add, by communists students accusing the Gov't falsely. The students in Iran, however, are agitating for true freedom.

24 posted on 06/21/2009 12:44:08 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

This is interesting since I kinda compare Iran’s election to our ACORN community agitator phoney election in so many places which, by the way, the swooning press failed to investigate at all; yet, we’re subjected to round-the-clock coverage of the same shenanigans going on in Iran.


25 posted on 06/21/2009 12:51:47 PM PDT by yorkie01
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To: Petronski

I’ve been reading comments on other websites, and I’m amazed at the people who think this death may have been faked. Is that some kind of talking point that’s going around? I mean, the poor girl has copious amounts of blood coming out of her mouth and nose. How do you fake that, unless you’ve got a Hollywood studio at your disposal?


26 posted on 06/21/2009 12:54:56 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by governments. You've been warned.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Her image has become memorialized in posters, including one in style similar to those that represented the Barack Obama campaign."

It seems more appropriate to regard that image of Neda a slap in the face of the 0ne whose support for these people has been disgracefully AWOL.

27 posted on 06/21/2009 1:13:54 PM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: shove_it
And here's the image ...


28 posted on 06/21/2009 1:17:26 PM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: FreepShop1

If I remember correctly the Kent State shootings brought about the demise of campus riots...The students found out it wasn’t as much fun to sit it, and burn down buildings if you could get shot...


29 posted on 06/21/2009 1:33:23 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: shove_it

Same day this girl died Barack took the two punishments out for ice cream.


30 posted on 06/21/2009 2:02:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a stupid comparison. Neda was killed by a sniper in an unprovoked attack.


31 posted on 06/21/2009 2:14:59 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Secret Agent Man

Bump!


32 posted on 06/21/2009 2:50:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: FreepShop1

“To those of you traumatized by what agony you think “Neda” was in as she lay wounded and died, I can assure you she felt none. I highly recommend the book “How We Die”, by Dr. Sherwin Nuland, who methodically using studies shows how our bodies are equipped with mechanisms to make us unaware and even blissful when we have suffered a fatal trauma.”

I wonder if Nuland can explain why a soldier cries out in pain and fear of death after they suffer a fatal trauma.


33 posted on 06/21/2009 3:12:26 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: popdonnelly; Petronski
Three things:

1) The blood smear on the pavement *under her* as they first move her body, before any blood appears on her face.

2) The blood coming out of both nostrils, but no evidence of coughing

3) The blood running into the left eye, but not even a half-checked movement to wipe it away. Try to get even plain water in your eye, in those amounts, without blinking or wiping it away.

4) The fixed eyes at the end.

She was murdered, and the people on the other sites are simply covering for Obama, and repeating what they have been told, like the clueless sheep they are.

Tell them that to their face.

34 posted on 06/21/2009 3:40:53 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: shove_it

Can you photoshop that to read "Hope" or "Change"?

Or better still, "Obama's Fault"?

Obama Lied. Neda Died.

35 posted on 06/21/2009 3:42:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree.. there is a big difference. I was a KSU grad & out of there just a short time when this event exploded at Kent.

The SDSers were very rude when I was there.. bold, brass, obnoxious and that is when they werent high... & when I read the accounts & recall what they were like stoned, I could see them pushing the limits to inexperienced National Guardsmen.

Neda... her life & its message in death if very profound. She will make a difference, not as she had planned but as fate has provided


36 posted on 06/21/2009 3:46:42 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: Rudder
I was very much alive in 1970 and I find the article’s comparison to be appropriate-—you see a difference?

The attempt to overturn a brutal and oppressive dictatorship in Iran is comparable with enemy-led protests of America's efforts to free millions of South Vietnamese from communist oppression and brutality?

Here's a link to a must-read article on the event, from a non-left-wing biased source:

Kent State
Proof to Save the Guardsmen
by Alan Stang
http://25thaviation.org/facts/id960.htm

37 posted on 06/21/2009 4:12:56 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: DollyCali
The SDSers were very rude when I was there.. bold, brass

Must read article on the event and the role of SDS:
http://25thaviation.org/facts/id960.htm

38 posted on 06/21/2009 4:19:28 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Imho, this is just another liberal’s attempt to equate this country with that of an evil regime.
39 posted on 06/21/2009 4:22:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: grey_whiskers; JoeProBono
No can do, Whiskers - I'm as photoshop challenged as you. Apparently this graphic has been widely circulated (according to the article linked by 2ndDivisionVet above) somehow as a twisted tribute to 0banana - sickening.

Joe P B ~ can you help?

40 posted on 06/21/2009 4:39:29 PM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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