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Neda: An Unintended Symbol (Presstitutes compare Iran 2009 to Kent State 1970)
CBS News ^ | June 21, 2009 | Daniel Farber

Posted on 06/21/2009 11:54:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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41 posted on 06/21/2009 4:54:16 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THIS IS NOT JUST STUDENTS, here! I’ve heard that drum beaten over and over in the press. LOOK at the videos. It’s ALL ages taking to the streets!

Can the press PLEASE get over their ‘hippy days’, plox????

42 posted on 06/21/2009 5:29:00 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet have got to be f**king kidding me. :( I don’t believe what I am seeing every day in our press and our government. :(:(:(:(

Liberals wouldn’t know true hardship if it bit them on the ass....

43 posted on 06/21/2009 6:13:25 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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I’ve been reading comments on other websites, and I’m amazed at the people who think this death may have been faked. Is that some kind of talking point that’s going around? I mean, the poor girl has copious amounts of blood coming out of her mouth and nose. How do you fake that, unless you’ve got a Hollywood studio at your disposal?

They're here on FR as well......

Neda, young girl brutally killed in Iran (portrait of Neda)

44 posted on 06/21/2009 7:44:41 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A comparison to Waco or Ruby Ridge is more accurate.

45 posted on 06/21/2009 8:18:41 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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It is important to remember Neda as a living, breathing, extremely beautiful 26 year old woman.

Her full name was Her full name was Neda Agha-Soltan, which means "voice" or "calling" in Persian, and she has been referred to as the "voice of Iran" and "a symbol of pro-democracy protesters battering the Islamic regime."

46 posted on 06/21/2009 10:40:48 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Here is a live tribute song to someone else, but the lyrics really seem to fit Neda's circumstances.

Pink Floyd "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" Syd Barrett Tribute

47 posted on 06/21/2009 11:40:29 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's a link to an excellent detailed analysis of what really happened at Kent State...


"the purpose of all this agitation at Kent State was to recruit as much cannon fodder as possible, and then to provoke a "major confrontation." When it came, it would be neither accidental nor spontaneous. It would be exactly what the revolutionaries wanted.

On April 8, 1969, S.D.S. toughs marched through various campus buildings, disrupting classes as planned, chanting "Ho, Ho, Ho chi Minh," and striking campus police officers. One of these hoodlums pleaded nolo contendere to a charge of assault and battery, and drew a fine and jail sentence. The university scheduled a disciplinary hearing for two others on April sixteenth, at which time about one hundred revolutionaries smashed into the Music and Speech building where the hearing was being held, destroyed property, and again attacked police officers. Of the fifty-eight demonstrators arrested, ten were not even students at the school. At the rally preceding the march on the disciplinary hearing, non-student Jim Mellen told the audience as follows: "We're no longer asking you to come and help us make a revolution. We're telling you that the revolution has begun, and the only choice you have to make is which side you're on. And we're also telling you that if you get in the way of the revolution, it's going to run right over you." Mr. Mellen's remarks were included in a liberally distributed S.D.S. pamphlet, which began with a quotation from Mao Tse-tung and the following warning: "The war is on at Kent State University ...."

At a meeting in Williams Hall on April 28, 1969, revolutionary Communist Bernardine Dohrn said that people fighting "oppression" would have to carry weapons for "self defense." On May sixth, at another campus rally, Joyce Cecora called for armed rebellion: "They used guns at Cornell and they got what they wanted. It will come to that here!" And at still another rally on campus on May twenty-second, S.D.S. member Rick Skirvin said this: "We'll start blowing up buildings, we'll start buying guns, we'll do anything to bring this motherf***er down."

Michener quotes a student named Ken Tennant as follows: "With me it goes back to the music festival they held at Fred Fuller Park in September, 1969. Four Weathermen came down from Chicago, with insignia on their bib overalls. They were selling their organization newspaper, and I said, 'I'll buy a copy if you'll tell me what your outfit stands for.' They said, 'We're going to destroy this corrupt American society and build a better.' I asked how, and they explained, 'We've decided to close down schools all over the nation. We're going to start in Chicago. But we have our eye on Kent State, too. It could be ripe.' "

Bear in mind that we have room here to cite only a few examples of the inflammatory agitation and propaganda on the campus at Kent State for almost two years. The evidence establishes—in the words of the revolutionaries—that the goal of S.D.S. was to provoke a violent confrontation in which somebody would be hurt, or even worse.

And the most incredible such example took place on April 10, 1970, when Jerry Rubin spoke on the campus at Kent State. Jerry Rubin is a Communist, of course. We can be absolutely sure of that because he has said so repeatedly. In fact he said he was a Communist when your reporter asked him about it at the Democrat National Convention in Miami in 1972. At that Convention Rubin also said that, when he and his Comrades take over, your reporter will be gassed. At Kent State, Communist Jerry Rubin said this: "The first part of the Yippie program is to kill your parents. And I mean that quite literally, because until you're prepared to kill your parents, you're not ready to change this country. Our parents are our first oppressors."

Your first reaction on reading a thing like this, of course, is that maybe I have taken it out of context. You refuse to believe that anybody would say this. But Rubin really told the students what you just read. It is important to remember that, at the time, Jerry Rubin was a convicted criminal—he had been convicted for leading the turmoil at the 1968 Democrat National Convention in Chicago, where terrorists attacked the police—which raises the question of how such a man could be permitted to address students on a university campus in Ohio.**

Rubin also told the Kent State students to burn down the suburbs. "The American school system will be ended in two years," he explained. "We are going to bring it down. Quit being students. Become criminals. We have to disrupt every institution and break every law. We should have more laws so we can break them, too. Everybody should have their own law to break." As for the campus itself, Comrade Rubin told the students to ignore their professors, and to "burn all the books. It's quiet here now but things are going to start again."

The campus was now ready. Almost two years of intensive Communist propaganda had their effect. A sufficient number of students was willing to serve as cannon fodder for the revolutionary "cause." The Communists needed only an excuse to provoke their "major confrontation." Three weeks later they got their excuse.


48 posted on 10/14/2011 6:13:03 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page:
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From the same article I just linked to...

" is important to quote at length from the state grand jury report on the affair: "Fifty-eight Guardsmen were injured by rocks and other objects hurled at them as they moved across the 'Commons' to Taylor Hall Hill and down to the practice football field, and were then forced to retreat .... it is clear that from the time the Guard reached the practice football field, they were on the defensive and had every reason to be concerned for their own welfare .... The circumstances present at that time indicate that 74 men surrounded by several hundred hostile rioters were forced to retreat back up the hill toward Taylor Hall under a constant barrage of rocks and other flying objects, accompanied by a constant flow of obscenities and chants such as 'Kill, Kill, Kill.' Photographic evidence has established, beyond any doubt, that as the National Guardsmen approached the top of the hill adjacent to Taylor Hall, a large segment of the crowd surged up the hill, led by smaller groups of agitators approaching to within short distances of the rear ranks of the Guardsmen.

"The testimony of the students and Guardsmen is clear that several members of the Guard were knocked to the ground or to their knees by the force of the objects thrown at them. ..."

49 posted on 10/14/2011 6:28:14 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page:
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