Riot Police attempt to hold the line and then start falling back.
Riot Police retreat as protestors advance, and then the Polic break and run as protestors chase
Posted on 06/21/2009 12:57:50 PM PDT by Jeff Head
Please watch the video showing this.
In a rock fight 10,000 protestors win
"There is only one force of history that can break the reign of hatred and resentment, and expose the pretensions of tyrants, and reward the hopes of thedecent and tolerant, and that is the force of human freedom.
"All who live in tyranny and hopelessness can know: The United States will not ignore your oppression, or excuse your oppressors. When you stand for your liberty, we willstand with you.
"Democratic reformers facing repression, prison or exile can know: America sees you for who you are -- the future leaders of your free country.
"The rulers of outlaw regimes can know that we still believe as Abraham Lincoln did: "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves; and, under the ruleof a just God, cannot long retain it."
George W. Bush Jan 2005
Young Woman (Neda) shot to death in Terhran. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjQxq5N--Kc
Crowd Hunting Basij, Man shot. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYaL4mA-bSY
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AMERICANS SUPPORTING IRAN LIBERTY
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FYI
Whats crazy is that if the protesters bring down the Mullahs, the media will try to credit it to Obama.
Rcok fight??
That’s HUGH and SERIES!
Ooooo, that’s one fast admin mod!!
Hehehe...I don’t know what you are talking about. Check the title again. LOL! Thanks Admin Mod!
George Bush's legacy and fight endures in the Mid East, despite, and in spite of Obama, and THAT is Obama's real dilema.
It was George Bush's policy of direct engagement and support of liberty that has led to the people of Iran seeing the measure of freedom now established on both sides of them in Iraq and Afghjanistan...and desiring it for themselves.
Obama cannot possibly go too far in recognizing that, or he absolutely repudiates himself and his entire foreign policy.
Do we really know where Mousavi stands or would he simply be a slightly-less anti-American Iranian leader? The Mooo-lahs have to go either way. Barry’s silence is deafening.
This couldn’t happen here. What city has 10,000 rocks available?
Come on, Obama is being dragged, kicking and screaming, into this.
Obama is on the side of Hamas!
This couldn’t happen here. What city has 10,000 rocks available?
ALL of them. They’re just labeled “Winchester.”
Bump!
Iranians - proving once again why they are the cream of the Muslim world......
No other Islamic Republic can match them for intellect, cleverness, work ethic, courage or the beauty of their women..
NONE.
Actually - far too many Western Industrialized nations couldn’t measure up to the Iranian youth....
Touché.
BYOR
“Bring Your Own Rocks”
I’m ready.
History is being made. Very brave of those rock throwers, knowing the police could switch to live ammo at any moment.
They are Persians first.
Any city, when you start crowbarring bricks into rubble into rocks.
Mousavi isn’t a huge change. Mostly the same old stuff but wants to tone down the rhetoric.
That said, the fact that he’s openly opposing the mullahs who approved him is very encouraging.
ALL of them. They’re just labeled “Winchester.”
Or Starline, Hornady or even Fedderal.
Fox just showed a clip with one of the motorcycles down and the protesters closing in on the basij. They cut away too quickly to see what followed.
Mousavi is not quite as bad as Imanutjob, close, but he wants to get rid of the Basij and give women more rights. He is still one of the Mullahs men. The Iranians need to get rid of the Mullahs and start a whole new form of government, one that isn’t run by religion(especially Islam)
You don’t want to be one of those Basij bikers when the bike goes down. It’s a great tactic when it’s many bikers against a few demonstrators.
But let that bike go down in a crowd, adn there will be hell to pay.
Rocks aren’t going to do it.
I watched some of the streaming video and I’d classify this as a demonstration.
Protesters need to overpower some of the soldiers and get some arms.
And, if we are thinking Iran’s attitude toward having nuclear weapons would change with a new regime, nope.
The polls I’ve read shows overwhelming support for nukes, both sides.
I’ve got a slingshot or 2 around here.
That would give new meaning to “road rash”.
FYI...I am telling the Iranians on twitter to remember this: When the bullets start flying more thickly, then should you win your liberty vow to NEVER AGAIN be disarmed. 80 million armed Americans means there will be no Basij in America, ever.In America everyone is fat in front of a television. Iranians still have the social cohesion and the cajones to stand up to their government. Don't, for a moment, think that you are in *any* way superior.
Mousavi campaigned for freedom of expression and for privatization and against an alms-based economy.
I would call it a start.
“...80 million armed Americans means
there will be no Basij in America, ever...”
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That does not mean that it will not happen;
but it does mean that it would be more deadly.
I am interested and learning from the tactics
that are being use on both sides of this conflict.
WE need to be releasing the 100’s of 1000’s of confiscated AKs
that we must have right next door in Iraq .
They need small arms , they need them now .
This is our best and possibly ONLY chance to depose the
mad mullahs , before they command nukes .
We need to really go for it and get it done .
Whatever it takes .
Send the arms
ps: people need to remember all the U.S. Soldiers that have died from Iranian origin IED (enhanced) in the last few years . This is the time to avenge all of them .
“...Protesters need to overpower some of the soldiers and get some arms...”
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i.e., they need to learn how to “trade up”.
“But let that bike go down in a crowd, ann there will be hell to pay.”
There is a photo linked to another thread that showed a protestor with a baton going after one of the Bikers. His bike is down in the background, with another biker riding away. One can only hope it turned out good for the protester.
I understand why many people are encouraged and sympathize with the revolutionaries, it’s hard not to root for rock throwers against an armed government. That said, it will be more of the same imo. It will be more of the same as far as the west is concerned. For the people themselves, they may be better off. They will still be taught to hate us as Mousavi and Akmadinijad hate us. Mousavi supported the Iran hostage taking.
http://middleeast.about.com/od/iran/p/mir-hossein-moussavi-profile.htm
There's some truth to what you say. However don't for a moment think that at least 40% of America doesn't still carry the torch for freedom in the world.
The right keep and bear arms shall not be regulated. The manufacturing, sales, and transportation of arms and ammunition shall not be regulated or taxed.
My nephew called me early this morning from Iraq.
He is located at a base near the Iranian border.
There were some interesting things in what he said;
and in what he did not say;
and which of my questions he would answer;
and which of my questions he would not answer.
Iranians are tough mofos. You’re forgetting Lebanese, Tunesians and Turks though. Lebanese and Turkish women especially.
I saw several taken down yesterday. One was pummeled badly before some of the protestors themselves saved him.
And I tell my liberal friends, that if they ever need to defend ourselves, they should hide behind an armed freeper.
:)
where do they get all the rocks?
I normally would not advise bringing rocks to riot, but that’s all they got.
Oh c’mon now, you can throw out some bones can’t you?
Yeah, definitely Turks. They are toughnuts. They’ve got the best army in the Middle East other than Israel’s, and the 2nd largest NATO army as well. Even from the early days Turks were known for their battle skills. Once they crossed the Oxus River into the Islamic lands, everyone wanted to hire them as guards for the royalty.
It can happen anywhere. Even armed police or military understand that being outnumbered by a high enough ratio guarantees your defeat. Gen. Custer established that.
And it is the continuing effect of Bush's policies over there in Iraq and Afghanistan. A tinder box was lit with successful freedom (to whatever extent...it is much better than Hussein or the Taliban) in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that fire is continuing to burn and spreading.
I have seen several of the videos of the killings as they happened or right after. The Basij, who are usually not perisans and amount to Hamas or Hezbollah in Iran, are the ones doing the shooting, usually from rooftops. That is how the young girl Neda was killed.
Soon, the Iranian people will begin taking them down. On twitter, the Iranians posting are regualrly (as are the protestors) chanting "Death to the Basij" and "Death to Khamenei" now.
There is no going back. They want liberty and they are willing to die to attain it...God bless 'em.
On twitter and elsewhere they have now taken to identifying...for themselves...who the henchmen are. Here's an example of a link:
Iranian freedom fighters Identify Basij henchmen
They make it clear what is going to happen.
If you haven't seen it already, here is an excellent photo essay on the revolution/fight:
Excellent photo Essay on Iran Revolution
Young Woman (Neda) shot to death in Terhran. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjQxq5N--Kc
Crowd Hunting Basij, Man shot. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYaL4mA-bSY
URGENT: HOW YOU CAN SUPPORT IRANIAN PROTESTORS RIGHT NOW...ON TWITTER
AMERICANS SUPPORTING IRAN LIBERTY
AMERICANS DON'T NEED OBAMA SPEAKING FOR THEM, WE'RE FREE AND CAN SPEAK FOR OURSELVES
You can follow me on twitter if you want.http://www.twitter.com/Jeff_Head
Yeah, definitely Turks. They are toughnuts. They’ve got the best army in the Middle East other than Israel’s, and the 2nd largest NATO army as well. Even from the early days Turks were known for their battle skills. Once they crossed the Oxus River into the Islamic lands, everyone wanted to hire them as guards for the royalty.Turks are good people. Egyptians are pretty tough too. I know some guys from '73. Do *they* have some stories to tell.
I believe this thing is outrunning the “candidates”. The many, many young people (and a lot of the older ones too) of Iran want freedom, not another puppet to tyranical Islamic rule.
I believe we could see the birth or republicanism in Iran, but it may very possibly become much more bloody before it is over. The Basij and many in the Revoultionary Guard are not likely to go quietly.
The key is, “What will the regular Army do?” And will they (say, Like Washington) be willing to take part in ending the Islamic tyranny and then hand it over to a new, true Republic?
At this point, the people may not accept anything less.
One thing is sure...it is Bush’s direct engagement, support of liberty, and policies that are driving this. Still bearing fruit. Obama is trying like crazy to spin this to his advantage, but we cannot let him lie and try and steal it. His policies would have made this impossible...just as they would have made Iraq impossible.
We might need that, a compound bow and a scoped 50BMG.
Hey kiddies, want to play thermonuclear war?
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