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IRAN: In a rock fight, 10,000 protestors win.
Tehran News BBC ^ | June 21, 2009 | Jeff Head

Posted on 06/21/2009 12:57:50 PM PDT by Jeff Head


Riot Police attempt to hold the line and then start falling back.


Riot Police retreat as protestors advance, and then the Polic break and run as protestors chase

Please watch the video showing this.

In a rock fight 10,000 protestors win

"There is only one force of history that can break the reign of hatred and resentment, and expose the pretensions of tyrants, and reward the hopes of the

decent and tolerant, and that is the force of human freedom.

"All who live in tyranny and hopelessness can know: The United States will not ignore your oppression, or excuse your oppressors. When you stand for your liberty, we will

stand with you.

"Democratic reformers facing repression, prison or exile can know: America sees you for who you are -- the future leaders of your free country.

"The rulers of outlaw regimes can know that we still believe as Abraham Lincoln did: "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves; and, under the rule

of a just God, cannot long retain it."

George W. Bush Jan 2005


WARNING:GRAPHIC:

Young Woman (Neda) shot to death in Terhran. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjQxq5N--Kc

Crowd Hunting Basij, Man shot. 6/20/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYaL4mA-bSY


RUNNING BATTLES IN TEHRAN

URGENT: HOW YOU CAN SUPPORT IRANIAN PROTESTORS RIGHT NOW...ON TWITTER

AMERICANS SUPPORTING IRAN LIBERTY

AMERICANS DON'T NEED OBAMA SPEAKING FOR THEM, WE'RE FREE AND CAN SPEAK FOR OURSELVES

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: endmullahrule; freeiran; greenrevolution; iran; iranliberty; iranviolence2009; policeflee; riot; rioters; studentmovement
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff,

Don't you think it tells us a lot that the Iranian authorities are NOT shooting in mass? I think it says that Iran may be at a "Poland/East Germany" moment where they are more afraid of shooting than not shooting.

81 posted on 06/21/2009 4:10:07 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I believe they already have a lot of police and military refusing. The only ones firing now are the Basif, and they are typcially foreigners, not Persian.


82 posted on 06/21/2009 4:14:42 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Noumenon
We shall see. I believe we can force good elections in 2010 and start turning it around then, and complete a turn around (at least of elected officials) in 2012.

Many had the same thoughts with Carter because of the depth of his and his administrations ties to marxistic thought back then in those very bad times.

We must be prepared if we are unsuccessful, indeed, we should always be prepared, but we also have to work for it and do all in our power to make it work according to the constitution.

I will not, and cannot give up on that until they force it themselves...although, as I say, we should be prepared for them to do just that at any time.

We shall see then, what transpires and respond accordingly.

83 posted on 06/21/2009 4:19:22 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
80 million armed Americans means there will be no Basij in America, ever.

Isn't that sort of what the BATF is?

84 posted on 06/21/2009 4:21:52 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Noumenon; Jeff Head

What a difference just a couple of hundred SKS rifles would make against the Basij.


85 posted on 06/21/2009 4:22:53 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ketsu
Don't, for a moment, think that you are in *any* way superior.

Except for the fact you are under the slavery of islam good luck ever finding freedom until you buck that...yep, we are in a better position, a heck of a better position.

Give me any country where Christianity is its foundation over an islamic country any day...no matter how bad that country is at least there is hope there for future freedom. Even if you manage to find some freedoms the fundamentalist (those following your religion devoutly) will always fight to replace those freedoms with islamic law and with the ebb and flow of politics they will win again sometime in the future. Yours will be a constant, never ending fight against your own religion just to gain said freedoms much less keep them.

86 posted on 06/21/2009 4:29:50 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Lurker
It's the Basif on the rooftops who are armed and doing most of the shooting. I keep waiting for several hundred of these people to take some of them down sometime (if they havn't already) and pick up the resulting rifles.

One of the Basif HQs was burnt down last night so I imagine some arms are already filtering out there.

It is surpriosing that after that incident, the Mullahs didn't take the gloves completely off. Makes you wonder just how many loyal military they have, willing to go that far?

If they have what they deam enough, and go for it, that's when you will see whole sale military and police units turning on the despotic units and go to civil war.

My guess is the Mullahs fear this and that is why they are trying to sit it out with less force...in fact, I can think of no other reason for these fundamentalists to do so.

All the more reason for our administration to encourage the fall of the mullahs.

You can bet Bibi and the Israelis are, and with more than just words.

87 posted on 06/21/2009 4:39:28 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: ketsu
Then don't act holier than thou.

Who do you think you are? Jeff did NOT act superior, he was giving good advice. And as to Americans being fat and lazy, speak for yourself. Americans freed 50 million Afghanis and Iraqis, and over 50 million Americans voted AGAINST zero and his minion.

You want to bash America, go somewhere else.

88 posted on 06/21/2009 4:41:30 PM PDT by McGavin999 (How's that change old Hopey Dope promised you working out?)
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To: Jeff Head

In America, the phrase will now be, don’t bring a Rock to a Gun fight.

This situation, like Hitler disarming the German population, creates an easy rebuke to any of those Gun Grabbers on the left.

The Second Amendment ain’t about Hunting and Sportsmen, it is about Protecting Liberty from Tyranny.


89 posted on 06/21/2009 4:48:07 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (One Man's Messiah is another Man's Fuhrer...)
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To: Lurker; Noumenon
This is a pretty good one...from either yesterday or today.

Lots of folks in the street...all over.

IRANIAN CROWD CHASES OF RIOT POLICE

90 posted on 06/21/2009 4:57:04 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Travis McGee
You don’t want to be one of those Basij bikers when the bike goes down. It’s a great tactic when it’s many bikers against a few demonstrators. But let that bike go down in a crowd, adn there will be hell to pay.

I would think that after the first day, there would be protesters with backpacks full of containers of motor oil and long lengths of wire.

Driving your motorcycle over an oil slick has the makings of a bad day, as would running into a wire strung between light posts, set about neck-high for a rider.

91 posted on 06/21/2009 5:05:53 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: Jeff Head
I believe this has gone beyond those two politicians/candidates. The people I am talking to want to be free and not have "Supremne Leaders" who are unelected. They are, more and more often now saying "Death to Khamanie". For them, no going back from that.

If this keeps going much longer, then if the rebels win, the mullahs better head for the borders. The rebel deaths will be laid at the feet of the clerical establishment.

92 posted on 06/21/2009 5:10:33 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: freeandfreezing
It can happen anywhere. Even armed police or military understand that being outnumbered by a high enough ratio guarantees your defeat. Gen. Custer established that.

Aitch-e-el-el, Leonidas established that a long time before Custer. And if I thought about it for a while I bet I could come up with someone before Leonidas.
93 posted on 06/21/2009 6:08:15 PM PDT by Cheburashka (There is an unlimited supply of stupid, although a lot of people are trying to use it all up.)
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To: Cheburashka
Aitch-e-el-el, Leonidas established that a long time before Custer.

I imagine the results of vastly outnumbering ones opponent in battle were discovered by very early humans - and probably discussed over a dinner of grilled mastodon steaks.

94 posted on 06/21/2009 6:33:40 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Travis McGee

I keep thinking of long poles jammed into spokes or into biker’s faces ala the movie Braveheart. Then a whole bunch of poles smashing down onto tumbling biker’s bodies...

Haven’t the Persians seen Braveheart?


95 posted on 06/21/2009 6:40:15 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism (Hail Obama! Kill da white peoples!)
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To: Jeff Head

I’m praying the regime changes but whether that would bring a significant difference in Iran’s foreign policy stance, I don’t think so.

Unlikely to be worse though.


96 posted on 06/21/2009 7:02:27 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: meadsjn
Fox just showed a clip with one of the motorcycles down and the protesters closing in on the basij.

I remember the last "mini-riot" they had a few years back. The basij thugs came out on the motorcycles, and it was over. This time, the basij are being besieged.

97 posted on 06/21/2009 7:50:58 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: Misterioso
How old are you?

Here's an aerial photo of the Washington DC riots in 1968

I watched the smoke columns rise over downtown, and then in other neighborhoods one after the other from an office building in Rossyln VA, across from Georgetown. It looked like the city had been bombed.

That photo doesn't show the half of it.

Police, National Guard, and Federal troops established a cordon sanitaire around DC at the Beltway. D.C. Stadium was used as an open air detention center for quite awhile.

I was stuck in Virginia and couldn't get home for three days

98 posted on 06/21/2009 7:59:41 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: ketsu
Turks are good people. Egyptians are pretty tough too.

If you back far enough, a Kurd led the Turks to power. Another Kurd also led Egypt when it took Jerusalem back from the Crusaders. More recently the Kurds fought Saddam Hussein for years. Saddam was also hung for using WMD on the Kurds. That's probably why the Turks are set against a Kurdish State. It would be a powerhouse with the Oil Money flowing.

99 posted on 06/21/2009 8:01:57 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Repeal The 17th
I hope his answers and non answers inspired gave you hope in the outcome of those fighting for liberty in iran.
100 posted on 06/21/2009 8:09:22 PM PDT by warsaw44
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