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What Makes You Human? (more just-so stories from the Temple of Darwinistic Materialism)
CEH ^ | June 17, 2009

Posted on 06/21/2009 4:26:50 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

June 17, 2009 — If you are a war-mongering beast who likes to burn things, you’re displaying your evolutionary past. That’s what a couple of news reports are claiming. New Scientist has a review...

(Excerpt) Read more at creationsafaris.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiscienceevos; creation; darwindrones; embarrassingcrap; evofairytales; evolution; evoreligion; forrestisstoopid; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; ragingyechardon; science; stupidisasstupiddoes; templeofdarwin; unchristiancultsect

1 posted on 06/21/2009 4:26:51 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; DaveLoneRanger; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/21/2009 4:28:25 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

This article has nothing to do with Darwinism.


3 posted on 06/21/2009 4:45:54 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

GRAAH


4 posted on 06/21/2009 4:46:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (In only 19 weeks, 0 has enabled us to agree with the Taliban [his empty speechifying] - Iron Munro)
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To: GodGunsGuts
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Check All that Apply
I Read It In Answers In Genesis
I Read It In Creation Safaris
I Read It at The Discovery Institute
I Read It at The Institute for Creation Research
I Saw It At The Creation Museum

 

This is About
Refuting Something Darwin wrote over 100 years ago
Proving All Geology points to a World Wide Flood
Proving the Earth is less than 10000 Years Old
Linking "Darwinism" to:
  Nazism
  Socialism
  Communism
  Antidisestablishmentarianism
Something I don't understand, but it seems to support my viewpoint

 

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My Nifty Budda Picture  

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My Naked Emperor Picture

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5 posted on 06/21/2009 4:52:34 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: ElectricStrawberry
This article has nothing to do with Darwinism.

Since when does that stop his ad nauseaum posts? He has an agenda.

6 posted on 06/21/2009 4:55:54 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: GodGunsGuts

I heard John Connor ask this very question in the Terminator movie I watched earlier today.


7 posted on 06/21/2009 4:59:40 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: mgstarr

I am flattered that the Temple of Darwin devotees on FR went to all the trouble to create such a complicated intelligent design in their ongoing effort to refute intelligent design...but if your gonna keep posting it, could you at least keep the links and cartoons current? Thank you :o)


8 posted on 06/21/2009 5:01:05 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: mgstarr

are darwinists the only people allowed to have agendas?


9 posted on 06/21/2009 5:01:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (In only 19 weeks, 0 has enabled us to agree with the Taliban [his empty speechifying] - Iron Munro)
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To: GodGunsGuts

” If you are a war-mongering beast who likes to burn things, you’re displaying your evolutionary past.”

Then I’m not to blame?


10 posted on 06/21/2009 5:04:35 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: mgstarr

“Since when does that stop his ad nauseaum posts? He has an agenda.”

Looks like your strategy is to mock, shout real loud and cover your ears rather than refute and debate? Your agenda is very thin young man.


11 posted on 06/21/2009 5:12:35 PM PDT by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
What Makes You Human?

I err. Sometimes enthusiastically and with disastrous consequences.

And then, just to reinforce my humanness, I do it again.

12 posted on 06/21/2009 5:18:43 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I never met a “Darwinist” myself.

But boy, if they just would all go away... well,

what exactly then?


13 posted on 06/21/2009 5:26:56 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: GodGunsGuts
Big “new study” on its way on another thread so hold this line in our memories, “Millions of years ago, our ape-like ancestors......” since:

“Humans More Related To Orangutans Than Chimps, Study
Suggests” in ‘Science News’.

I always wondered where that red haired kid came from.

14 posted on 06/21/2009 5:42:35 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
If you are a war-mongering beast who likes to burn things

"Beast" is a bit harsh, but I am for a very strong defense; and I do like to burn cigars.

ML/NJ

15 posted on 06/21/2009 5:42:37 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: GodGunsGuts
Correction: If you're a warmongering beast who likes to burn things in the name of God, then and only then are you fully human!
16 posted on 06/21/2009 5:47:54 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So Rebel_Ace is an intelligent designer.....a god, like your Intelligent Designer?

You really lower your god to merre human designer status?


17 posted on 06/21/2009 5:49:05 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: mgstarr

You said — Since when does that stop his ad nauseaum posts? He has an agenda.

Nothing related to the knowledge of God, no matter what it is — can be “ad nauseaum”.

I wonder what people will do on this earth, when Jesus, the Messiah of Israel sets up God’s Kingdom on this earth where we live and the “knowledge of God” is throughout the land and covers the whole world, and is taught daily and discussed daily, always... I wonder if there will be people saying “this stuff is going on ‘ad nauseaum’ in this Kingdom”... LOL...


18 posted on 06/21/2009 6:10:39 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

WOW! You’re good.

I sincerely wish I would have posted that.


19 posted on 06/21/2009 6:36:38 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


20 posted on 06/21/2009 9:04:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Maybe you should go to the review before commenting on what the article is or is not about.


21 posted on 06/22/2009 12:03:31 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Maybe you should say something.

I read the review and it does not involve “evolution”......in any manner. Use of fire to increase nutrition, altering the physical appearance in ways that better nutrition can and does, has nothing to do with inheritable changes (mutations) in the genetic make-up...the DNA...of a species.


22 posted on 06/22/2009 12:09:08 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Your comment:

“I read the review and it does not involve “evolution”......in any manner.”

The article quotes the review:

“These fascinating books show how the biological evolution of human beings may
not have been a matter of biology alone, and why, as Wrangham writes, “we humans
are the cooking apes, the creatures of the flame”.”

From the review:

“Anthropologist Frances Burton suggests that taming fire led to the evolution of modern humans. Millions of years ago, our ape-like ancestors may have overcome their fear of fire to pick at found delicacies - maybe an animal accidentally cooked in a forest fire”

and, also from the review that was quoted in the article:

“These fascinating books show how the biological evolution of human beings may not have been a matter of biology alone, and why, as Wrangham writes, “we humans are the cooking apes, the creatures of the flame”.

Maybe you should say nothing.

23 posted on 06/22/2009 1:32:01 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

D’uh.....yes, they talked of “evolution” in a general sense, but this entire nonsense had NOTHING to do with evolution in the scientific sense.....as in.....it had NOTHING to do with inheritable changes in the DNA of the species.

Ya don’t change DNA sequences by building a fire.

As in...this entire article has NOTHING to do with evolution. D’uh....

Yeah....you sure have something to say.


24 posted on 06/22/2009 1:52:30 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
You said it had “nothing to do with evolution in any manner”, no qualifiers, no “in the scientific sense”, No restrictions or exceptions, just “in any manner”.

Talking about anything is all that can be done in a printed page, that what a review is: talking. and talking, even in “a general sense” is a “manner”. D’uh

25 posted on 06/22/2009 2:03:23 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

So what you’re saying is that, since you think the article had something...ANYTHING to do with evolution, that you don’t know what evolution is.

Got it....


26 posted on 06/23/2009 3:27:49 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

No, not all. Neither said nor implied. I simply suggested you read the review after this comment:

“This article has nothing to do with Darwinism.”

As for your latest I need only say, “something..ANYTHING” is more than nothing. Yes, I got that and wonder why you cannot.

If you have relevant commentary, why, I’d like to discuss it with you soon.


27 posted on 06/23/2009 4:01:10 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

This article STILL has absolutely nothing to do with “evolution.”

Just because the word “evolution” is used doesn’t that “evolution” is being talked about. The term is used incorrectly as what he’s talking about is.........not evolution.....in any manner.


28 posted on 06/23/2009 5:05:05 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
Says ElectricStrawberry: “

“This article STILL has absolutely nothing to do with “evolution.”

Says article:

“Anthropologist Frances Burton suggests that taming fire led to the evolution of modern humans. Millions of years ago, our ape-like ancestors may have overcome their fear of fire to pick at found delicacies – maybe an animal accidentally cooked in a forest fire. Over time, they learned how to keep a flame going by feeding it twigs, how to use fire to thwart predators and how to harness it for heat and light. This familiarity with fire, Burton argues, changed the hormonal cycles that depend on light and darkness: light from nightly bonfires may have caused a change in the nocturnal flow of melatonin. Over time, this changed the rates and patterns of our ancestors’ growth, and the regulation and activation of genes, leading ultimately to us.”

Says I: YOU SAY the term is used incorrectly, even if so, and it's NOT, it is STILL the subject and that IS exactly what is being discussed. (Love those caps).

Now that we have arrived at this point, will you share with us some insult or just go on repeating:

“As in...this entire article has NOTHING to do with evolution. D’uh...”
“I read the review and it does not involve “evolution”......in any manner”
“This article has nothing to do with Darwinism.”

.

.

29 posted on 06/23/2009 7:43:21 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

...and that quote has nothing to do with evolution. Go on...quote something else said that has nothing to do with evolution.


30 posted on 06/23/2009 1:38:17 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Predictable fare.

“Now that we have arrived at this point, will you share with us some insult or just go on repeating:

“As in...this entire article has NOTHING to do with evolution. D’uh...”
“I read the review and it does not involve “evolution”......in any manner”
“This article has nothing to do with Darwinism.”

And now:
“...and that quote has nothing to do with evolution. Go on...quote something else said that has nothing to do with evolution”

Predictable Darwinist fare.


31 posted on 06/23/2009 2:11:21 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Ya know, a friend of mine was talking the other day:

“I really want to be an aerospace engineer. The way the fish spawn every year is so cool. The way they change colors during spawning season is beautiful. That’s what I want for my career as an aerospace engineer.”

Is he talking about aerospace engineering?

No......but I don’t think someone of your obvious uber-intelligence will get or accept the analogy because you’re so wicked-smaht you actually think the article was talking about “evolution” when it was talking about something “other than evolution”...something that had nothing to do with heritable changes in the DNA sequence passed on to the next generation. Something that is what y’all might call “adaptation within a kind”....being altered in appearance or behavior by external stimulus.

Yes, a better diet will alter the physical appearance of a person or People. Yes, changes in light-levels received in the eye could alter horomone levels produced in the pineal gland.

...but that is not “evolution” no matter how many times someone says the word or uber-intelligent types like yourself think it is.

Talk about predictable fare. You’re stuck quoting and requoting and requoting “non-evolution” as “evolution” and then ending with a big fat projection.

YEs, predictable fare.


32 posted on 06/24/2009 7:03:41 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
“Now that we have arrived at this point, will you share with us some insult or just go on repeating:” and then follows YOUR statements.

Just as I said in my post #29, Now the insult phase. Next comes the part where you become hysterical in addition to the insults and sarcasms.

33 posted on 06/24/2009 8:29:10 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I got to tear down a small structure once. It was savagely cathartic.

But I’d rather be a builder.


34 posted on 06/24/2009 8:52:02 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: count-your-change

Still trying to find some shred of them talking about heritable changes in the DNA sequence of early Man due to Man taming fire? Gotta be in there somewhere?


35 posted on 06/24/2009 1:50:19 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
You're as confused as your imaginary friend, the aerospace engineer wannabe.

YOUR COMMENT: “no......but I don’t think someone of your obvious uber-intelligence will get or accept the analogy because you’re so wicked-smaht you actually think the article was talking about “evolution” when it was talking about something “other than evolution”...something that had nothing to do with heritable changes in the DNA sequence passed on to the next generation. Something that is what y’all might call “adaptation within a kind”....being altered in appearance or behavior by external stimulus.
Yes, a better diet will alter the physical appearance of a person or People. Yes, changes in light-levels received in the eye could alter horomone levels produced in the pineal gland.
...but that is not “evolution” no matter how many times someone says the word or uber-intelligent types like yourself think it is.”

Read carefully. Then read the article/review.

“Stanford Report, January 16, 2009
Adaptation is key in human evolution

For years researchers have puzzled over whether adaptation plays a major role in human evolution or whether most changes are due to neutral, random selection of genes and traits.
Geneticists at Stanford now have laid this question to rest. Their results, published Jan. 16 online in Public Library of Science Genetics, show adaptation—the process by which organisms change to better fit their environment—is indeed a large part of human genomic evolution.
. Cassandra Brooks is a science-writing intern at the Stanford News Service.
news.stanford.edu/news/2009/.../evoladap-012109.html”

How's that foot taste?

36 posted on 06/24/2009 3:07:51 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
The Stanford Report you quoted has nothing to do with the specific article linked in this thread.....the one entitled "What Makes You Human?" that deals with 2 books about Man taming fire, thusly altering Man's appearance......something that has nothing to do with "evolution", as there is ZERO change in your heritable genetic sequence due to an increase in nutrition and an alteration in hormone levels frrom an increase in light. Your DNA is your DNA...it does not change because you eat better or get more light. The DNA your kids receive from you does not change because you eat better and get more light.

The link to the "review" in the article entitled "What Makes You Human?" does not include the Stanford Report you quoted.

Anyone run around finding all kinds of research reports and journal articles.....but THIS ARTICLE, entitled "What Makes You Human" has nothing to do with evolution (where's the heritable change in the DNA?).

Must've been a slow day with GGG not posting any articles for personal props.

37 posted on 06/25/2009 10:49:52 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

As evidenced by your comments you either cannot or will not understand what was said in any of the material presented to you.

Oh well.


38 posted on 06/25/2009 12:20:00 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

So you found the part of the article entitled “What Makes You Human?” that talked of changes in DNA based on taming fire?


39 posted on 06/26/2009 10:50:43 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Yes, some time ago, do you need to have me explain it again?
or would you rather read it yourself? If so, come on back if you understand it and have something reasonable to say.

Otherwise I won’t waste my time responding to you.


40 posted on 06/26/2009 11:16:08 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Playing with fire does not alter your DNA.


41 posted on 06/28/2009 8:12:39 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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