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Fed contractor, cell phone maker sold spy system to Iran
Washington Times ^ | April 13, 2009 | Eli Lake

Posted on 06/21/2009 5:50:53 PM PDT by PapaBear3625

Two European companies — a major contractor to the U.S. government and a top cell-phone equipment maker — last year installed an electronic surveillance system for Iran that human rights advocates and intelligence experts say can help Iran target dissidents.

Nokia Siemens Networks (NSN), a joint venture between the Finnish cell-phone giant Nokia and German powerhouse Siemens, delivered what is known as a monitoring center to Irantelecom, Iran's state-owned telephone company.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: calea; citizenprofiling; dhs; finland; iran; nokia; sanctions; siemens; surveillance; telecom
The system sold to Iran is able to archive and cross-check cell phone traffic, including text messaging. This is how they're able to spot important rebels.
1 posted on 06/21/2009 5:50:53 PM PDT by PapaBear3625
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ping


2 posted on 06/21/2009 5:51:56 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: PapaBear3625

Disgusting.

I will write siemens and Nokia. let them know I will never buy another one of their products.

Just like US companies that sold to Hitler.
I can’t remember which ones.


3 posted on 06/21/2009 5:53:16 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Big Brother is watching you.


4 posted on 06/21/2009 5:55:27 PM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

http://www.ranknfile-ue.org/uen_nastybiz.html


5 posted on 06/21/2009 5:56:46 PM PDT by wally_bert (My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre)
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To: PapaBear3625

I am really surprised. It is usually the French who sell such systems to dictators.


6 posted on 06/21/2009 6:00:34 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: PapaBear3625

This is not news.
And Siemans has been doing business with Iran for yrs.


7 posted on 06/21/2009 6:01:59 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: wally_bert

thanks. great link.


8 posted on 06/21/2009 6:03:22 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel!)
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To: PapaBear3625
Nokia Siemens Networks (NSN), a joint venture between the Finnish cell-phone giant Nokia and German powerhouse Siemens,...

Not the first time the German industrial giants opt to go where the money is.

Ovens, telecommunication equipment, what's the difference?

As for the Finns, I have no explanation. Certainly they should know better.

9 posted on 06/21/2009 6:10:00 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: PapaBear3625

http://www.google.com/search?q=siemens+nazi+germany


10 posted on 06/21/2009 6:11:11 PM PDT by angkor
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To: PapaBear3625
The Beijing Airport has voiceprint recognition.

So for instance, if a spy on your religious organization doesn't know who you are, but captures your voice at a church meeting, you will be flagged and captured if you talk to the customs officer.

11 posted on 06/21/2009 6:44:52 PM PDT by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Just like US companies that sold to Hitler. I can’t remember which ones.

IBM sold punch card machines to Nazi, used to tabulate the movement of Jewish prisoners.

12 posted on 06/21/2009 6:45:30 PM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: PapaBear3625
-- The system sold to Iran is able to archive and cross-check cell phone traffic, including text messaging. This is how they're able to spot important rebels. --

I bet the systems the US government has and operates in the US are vastly superior at this task.

13 posted on 06/21/2009 6:48:42 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Nokia

http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/contacts

Siemens

http://www.usa.siemens.com/en/contact.php


14 posted on 06/21/2009 6:58:57 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: PapaBear3625

Nokia ans Siemens must be proud. I’m sure they’ll use it in their next ads.


15 posted on 06/21/2009 7:03:21 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: PapaBear3625
This isn't new.


16 posted on 06/21/2009 7:26:00 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante
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To: PapaBear3625

“can help Iran target dissidents”.
___________________________________________________________

Why spend the money on this system when they can just look out the window? All the dissidents they can handle are right outside the door.


17 posted on 06/21/2009 8:08:03 PM PDT by Martel1971
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To: Costumed Vigilante

Chilling read.

Considering the potential nefarious uses of the privacy-invasive data collected in the American Community Surveys plus the questions on the upcoming census; not to mention the current administration seizing control of the administration of said census, it is likely to happen again.

Be vigilant.


18 posted on 06/21/2009 8:13:21 PM PDT by hughesm1 (Congress...opposite of progress.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Well this sure explains my crappy Umniah cell phone service.


19 posted on 06/21/2009 8:20:44 PM PDT by Justa
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To: PapaBear3625

Not a problem if we or the Israelis can get the password to the backdoor.


20 posted on 06/21/2009 8:46:26 PM PDT by meatloaf (Obama, Obozo ... what's the difference?)
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To: PapaBear3625

Looks like they really honored the UN Sanctions put together against Iran over the past few years./sarc


21 posted on 06/22/2009 4:08:19 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Obama must be making huge piles of cigarette butts around the WH grounds at this point.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Espoo, Finland, June 22, 2009
Recent media reports have speculated about Nokia Siemens Networks’ role in providing monitoring capability to Iran. Nokia Siemens Networks has provided Lawful Intercept capability solely for the monitoring of local voice calls in Iran. Nokia Siemens Networks has not provided any deep packet inspection, web censorship or Internet filtering capability to Iran.

http://www.nokiasiemensnetworks.com/global/Press/Press+releases/news-archive/Provision+of+Lawful+Intercept+capability+in+Iran.htm


22 posted on 06/23/2009 1:39:01 AM PDT by Viiksitimali
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To: PapaBear3625

Here is Siemens SSK (Iran) celebrating the grand opening of their state of the art training center in Iran providing training to staff and customers. Presumably, this is where the creme of the crop basiji or secret police might go. A place to learn the skills required to efficiently monitor and archive the private communications of their fellow countrymen {in the interest of future prosecution, torture and death}.

As Siemens SSK puts it: “The new building disposes in its classrooms of several facilities such as wireless LAN and telecommunication cabling, data projectors and accessories, 380V PDBs, suspended ceiling and anti-static raised floor.”

Oh look, what a nice day and fun time for all:

http://www.siemens.ir/en/images/event4/Pic1.jpg
http://www.siemens.ir/en/images/event4/Pic2.jpg
http://www.siemens.ir/en/images/event4/Pic3.jpg
http://www.siemens.ir/en/images/event4/Pic4.jpg
http://www.siemens.ir/en/images/event4/Pic5.jpg
http://www.siemens.ir/en/images/event4/Pic6.jpg
http://www.siemens.ir/en/images/event4/Pic7.jpg
http://www.siemens.ir/en/images/event4/Pic8.jpg

[ Note I don’t know how to post a picture, if someone might post them directly. Otherwise, they have been saved for ‘posterity’. ]


23 posted on 06/23/2009 6:43:08 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: PapaBear3625

Currently in advertisements on Clear Channel Communications radio stations, Siemens is lauding their Green Lighting Division and Building Systems Division here in the United States. Extremely offensive given Siemens technology may soon be employed by the Regime to identify protestors. {Nobody will document their plight.}

Yes, the same stations that carry Rush, Hannity, and Levin.

If you have an issue with that, you might want to make a complaint to Clear Channel Communications and your local radio station.


24 posted on 06/23/2009 6:44:00 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Viiksitimali

Translation

Nokia: Hey, we just made out with them, we didn’t go all the way. Gotta go cash this blood-soaked check now!


25 posted on 06/24/2009 6:03:57 PM PDT by Lee Ameri
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