Posted on 06/22/2009 7:52:45 AM PDT by Fennie
On the 2nd December 2002 Claudio Schranz of our group and alpine guide has been able to film clearly a beam of Noah's Ark protruding out of the ice on Mount Ararat. It was found at 4000m between the beginning of the Parrot glacier.
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PING
Gopherwood, or hoax.
Curious indeed if authentic. If so, Ark or not it does beg the question wtf is it doing up there.
Old Sherpa cabin?
For you, it never will.
If you look closely you can see Bigfoot hiding behind it.
I want the GPS coords. Otherwise it could be from anywhere.
Maybe it is Utnapishtim’s.
It is my understanding that there really is no single “Mount Ararat” and that it is a range of mountains.
That’s actually Noah himself.
“Wood! Wood, wood, wood, wood. WOOD!
Agreed.
Like you and many other FReepers, I lack the ability to carbon-date wood just by looking really hard at it.
We have to own up to our disabilities.
Old monastery, discovered years ago. Just a bunch of wishful thinking from the folks in this story.
Didn’t you see the “Made in...?” on the end of the wood.
It also had a tag “Inspected by number 57. Quality Control”.
I remember they also found a relic in a cave of one of the apostles? and everyone ignored it.
Ping~
If the mountain where Noah’s ark landed is now covered in snow and ice, does that mean that the world is experiencing global cooling since the days of Noah?
“Old monastery, discovered years ago. Just a bunch of wishful thinking from the folks in this story.”
I have not heard that one.
Could be,but I still think Elvis is making the crop circles.
If you want to read a great science fiction novel that touches, among other things, on the finding of an ark on Mount Ararat, there's this.
I also recommend another Powers book, "The Drawing of the Dark," which is about King Arthur, beer, and the Siege of Vienna by the Turks. These are strange and powerful SF novels, and not unfriendly to religion.
Well, there is a single Mt. Ararat, but the Bible says that Noah's Ark came to rest "in the mountains of Ararat", which could put it pretty much anywhere in traditional Armenia.
It has to be Noah’s Ark, the inscription reads property of Noah, the Ark maker. This product can not be reproduced without the explicit permission of the music industry or Helen Thomas.
Thanks for the clarification.
If I had been Noah, I would have used the lumber of the Ark to build a home, or to burn for firewood. Not sure anyone would just leave that lumber there for posterity....
I think the Bible referred to it as the mountains of Ararat.
Isn’t it amazing that Noah had the use of a saw mill using a circular rotating blade way back then.
Note the slightly radiused, repeating striations along the side of that “beam”.
Common use of the circular saw mill began here in America, as best I recall, sometime around the mid 1800s; before that they used a reciprocating (up and down) band saw, either human (for small ones) or water - wheel powered.
If you have an old house with exposed beams, look on their sides; it there are parallel straight ridges and grooves, then it was whip-sawed and the house is probably 100 to a couple of hundred years old or so. Of course modern “portable” saw mills use a band-saw system and the “Alaska” saw uses a sliding chain saw. You can usually tell the difference if you are familiar with lumber.
Hand hewn beams have a unique, uneven rustic look with up and down cuts every 8 or 10 inches or so from the “felling axe”. If in a settled area, it is probably at least 200 years old, or built from materials from a pre existing structure.
Before about 1820, most beams were hand hewn using various forms of axes and adzes. Even through the 19th Century a lot of country folk were still doing it that way. See “Foxfire Books” for details.
I have no idea how those beams got up there, but I seriously doubt that they floated, nor are much more than about 100 years old.
Now that would make a good tag line
“Isn’t it amazing that Noah had the use of a saw mill using a circular rotating blade way back then.”
You got all that from some grainy video? You should work for NCIS.
Come on people, use your heads.
1. That piece of wood has circular saw marks on it. Do you really think that Noah had a circular saw?
2. The wood was found at an elevation of 4000 meters. Thats 13,123 feet. Do you really believe that the earth was inundated to an elevation of 13,000 feet above mean sea level? Where did all that water come from, and where did it go? Assuming it rained for 40 days and nights, it would have rained 328 feet per day, or almost 14” per hour for 960 straight hours.
Pretty easy to tell if it’s the ark or not. How many cubits is it?
Look at second 33 of the vid.
Thats 14 feet, not inches
-PJ
Okay, I’ll bite....What’s a Cubit? (many thanks to Bill Cosby...)
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read most of his work and its totally unique. My favorite is the Anubis Gates
Wow, that’s pretty interesting, how is this movie just being published now?
“Look at second 33 of the vid.”
I dont think that can definitively be called circular saw marks based on a couple of curved lines.
Well, there is a single Mt. Ararat, but the Bible says that Noah's Ark came to rest "in the mountains of Ararat", which could put it pretty much anywhere in traditional Armenia.
From the Mespotanian perspective the description "the Mountains of Urartu" (as Armenia was called then) would be taken as those ranges south of Lake Van and Lake Urmia, rather than a pair of isolated peaks on a plateau far to the north.
Yes, I’ve read all of them, too. I think my favorite, although not really the most powerful, is “The Drawing of the Dark.” But they’re all remarkable.
I don’t know if that beam is from Noah’s Ark or not but we have to remember just what the bigger story is here. We’re talking about a rainstorm of truly God-like proportions. If God is truly a “God,” then He/She/It can do anything He/She/It damned well wants to do. If that calls for 14” of rain per hour, then that’s what we’d get. Did that actually happen? I don’t know but I kinda lean toward believing it until someone can give me real proof otherwise. Right now the question is a race between opposing theories and proof is still in the last turn.
Bring the beams down and use them in the construction of the Third Temple, wherein place the Ark of the Covenant.
Gopherwood? The Luther bible says pine.
Faith in God does not require one to ignore reason and science, nor does it require absolute literal interpretation of the Bible which, after all, was written by man, several hundred years after the events depicted. Science, reason, and Belief do not have to be mutually exclusive.
Was there a flood experienced by Noah? Most likely. Did it inundate the entire globe to a depth of over 13,000 feet? Highly unlikely.
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