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Revolutionary Guard Commander Defies Khamenei's Orders To Use Force On Protestors
The International Business Times ^ | 22 June 2009 @ 02:00 pm

Posted on 06/22/2009 12:07:22 PM PDT by lewisglad

A commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards has been arrested for refusing to obey Iran's Supreme Leader, according to reports from the Balatarin.

General Ali Fazli, who was recently appointed as a commander of the Revolutionary Guards in the province of Tehran, is reported to have been arrested after he refused to carry out orders from the Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei to use force on people protesting the controversial re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Fazli, a veteran of the devastating Iran-Iraq war is also believed to have been sacked and taken to an unknown location.

The Revolutionary Guards is a separate body to the mainstream armed forces in Iran and is seen as one of the main and most powerful bodies responsible for protecting the Islamic theocratic regime.

Earlier today the Revolutionary Guards issued a warning on its website threatening to come down hard on Iranians who continue protesting against what many in the country see as rigged elections

(Excerpt) Read more at ibtimes.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: greenrevolution; iran; iranviolence2009; revolutionaryguard
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1 posted on 06/22/2009 12:07:22 PM PDT by lewisglad
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2 posted on 06/22/2009 12:09:01 PM PDT by stevecmd
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To: lewisglad

Now it gets even more interesting.


3 posted on 06/22/2009 12:09:14 PM PDT by La Lydia (.)
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4 posted on 06/22/2009 12:09:14 PM PDT by stevecmd
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I’d be surprised if the General was still alive.


5 posted on 06/22/2009 12:09:44 PM PDT by maquiladora
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To: stevecmd

Is it a big enough crack though?


6 posted on 06/22/2009 12:10:27 PM PDT by classified
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To: lewisglad

If this is true this man has courage worthy of respect.


7 posted on 06/22/2009 12:10:31 PM PDT by corvus
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To: lewisglad

American Patriots need to watch this play out.
It could happen this way in 3 years.


8 posted on 06/22/2009 12:10:43 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: lewisglad

Heads will roll.

Poor guy.


9 posted on 06/22/2009 12:11:06 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: classified

Is it a big enough crack though?

If enough people get the last look on Neda’s face it should be enough.


10 posted on 06/22/2009 12:11:43 PM PDT by stevecmd
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To: maquiladora
I’d be surprised if the General was still alive.

If dead, his funeral should prove...interesting.

11 posted on 06/22/2009 12:11:54 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obamanation: an imploding administration headed by a clueless schmuck)
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To: stevecmd

Iran on crack?


12 posted on 06/22/2009 12:12:15 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: stevecmd
Protesters mourn 'Angel of Iran' on Facebook

An undated picture posted on the Internet shows Iranian Neda Agha Soltan, who was reportedly killed when hit by a bullet in the heart during a protest in Tehran.

13 posted on 06/22/2009 12:12:26 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

One thing is sure , his replacement will be a hardliner.


14 posted on 06/22/2009 12:13:32 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: lewisglad

On the surface this looks like a setback for the uprising, but it is not. How many Revolutionary Guards are loyal to Fazli, or share his view?
Every time the Theocracy takes an action like this, they alienate more people and deepen the cracks in their regime.


15 posted on 06/22/2009 12:13:37 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: stevecmd

If the Revolutionary Guard is more loyal to their own than the Mullah’s, the Mullah’s just guaranteed their fall. Military particularly the Republican Guard run on the mullahs, and the “islamic revolution” that Jimmy Carter created is over.


16 posted on 06/22/2009 12:14:21 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: classified; stevecmd
So no to crack.


17 posted on 06/22/2009 12:14:32 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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18 posted on 06/22/2009 12:16:44 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
Fazli, a veteran of the devastating Iran-Iraq war is also believed to have been sacked and taken to an unknown location.

Probably more than one. :(

19 posted on 06/22/2009 12:17:18 PM PDT by Sloth (The Second Amendment is the ultimate "term limit.")
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20 posted on 06/22/2009 12:17:19 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: lewisglad
Let Freedom Ring!

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Let Freedom ring,let the white dove sing Let the whole world know that today is a Day of reckoning Let the weak be strong, let the right be wrong Roll the stone away, let the guilty pay, it's Independence Day

21 posted on 06/22/2009 12:18:01 PM PDT by txroadkill (Vote Democrat - it's easier than working!)
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To: lewisglad
Meanwhile, President Obama and his team struggle furiously over what course of action will provide them with the best PR regardless of what happens. MSM calls the stress “the greatest test of any presidency”— news at 11.
22 posted on 06/22/2009 12:19:02 PM PDT by Shqipo ((A new tagline is currently under construction))
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To: lewisglad

And the president of the US is not strongly supporting these brave people desiring freedom, why?


23 posted on 06/22/2009 12:19:46 PM PDT by twigs
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To: corvus

It can be amazing to see how people react in a crisis.

Sometimes least likely people step forward and do the right thing, then some people shrink from the challenge.


24 posted on 06/22/2009 12:19:51 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: lewisglad

This may signal Guard reluctance to fire upon their own. The economy in Iran has been so bad for so long that many men joined the Guard as a way to earn a living. Those recruits, the ones gained in the last five years, may also share this reluctance and are great enough in number to break the Guard’s ranks, allowing the popular revolt to touch the mullahs. Fascinating.


25 posted on 06/22/2009 12:20:03 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: lewisglad

You mean those dummies actually killed the only beautiful girl in the country? Very Shrewd!


26 posted on 06/22/2009 12:21:01 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: MrB

It could happen this way in 3 years.

We have already been taken over . Most Americans were too “busy” to even notice , they voted for the enemy. Too many folks caught up in TV soaps and dancing with the stars to react to the soft take over of the USA.


27 posted on 06/22/2009 12:21:16 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: lewisglad

My goodness this couldn’t be a WORSE TIME to have a clueless President in regards to foreign policy.

We should be FLOODING Persian patriots with resources right now and SLAMMING Iran’s govt in the press.


28 posted on 06/22/2009 12:22:03 PM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: MrB
Ok that crack is noticeable!
29 posted on 06/22/2009 12:22:03 PM PDT by classified
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To: stevecmd

It’ll be interesting to see how many of our own troops fire on the American public when Hussein orders it.


30 posted on 06/22/2009 12:22:31 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: twigs

10 guesses why. He’s a punk for one. He hates the USA and he’s pro Islam . Any more questions?


31 posted on 06/22/2009 12:22:52 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: TheGeezer

bttt


32 posted on 06/22/2009 12:22:53 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: counterpunch
On the surface this looks like a setback for the uprising, but it is not. How many Revolutionary Guards are loyal to Fazli, or share his view?

It might have been that Fazli was a decent human being, or it might have been that Fazli realized that killings provoke long-term desires for revenge, and that somebody who blamed him might find an opportunity someday to kill him.

In any event, his removal is a big deal. One thing you have to understand about such societies, is how much depends on personal connections. Fazli probably had lots of friends and relatives dependent upon his position. The Guard has lots of economic interests, with their people owning lots of businesses. There's a lot of wealth and power involved.

All of Fazli's associates will now be out in the cold, as Fazli is replaced by somebody more "reliable". This will snowball.

33 posted on 06/22/2009 12:23:16 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: TheGeezer
Those recruits, the ones gained in the last five years, may also share this reluctance and are great enough in number to break the Guard’s ranks, allowing the popular revolt to touch the mullahs.

Also, if Guards desert, taking their arms and ammo with them, then it's a whole new ball game.

34 posted on 06/22/2009 12:25:36 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: Oldpuppymax
It’ll be interesting to see how many of our own troops fire on the American public when Hussein orders it.

Which ones?

US Army/Navy/Air Force/Marine Corps?

Or 0bama's civilian thug force?

35 posted on 06/22/2009 12:26:00 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: lewisglad

If a Western-friendly regime takes over, Hussein will take credit.

If the Islamofacists continue rule, Hussein will blame Bush.


36 posted on 06/22/2009 12:28:00 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
It can be amazing to see how people react in a crisis. Sometimes least likely people step forward and do the right thing, then some people shrink from the challenge.

It's pretty straight forward what's going on here. Obama doesn't want to upset Boss Putin and the Russians. Ahmadinejad is their guy. Obama has spent his whole life around people who are dedicated to the destruction of America and sympathetic to the Russians and ChiComs (Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, FM Davis, etc).

http://www.kansascity.com/451/story/1254226.html
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From CBS-News, July 29, 2006:

Chavez Vows To 'Stand By Iran'
After Oil Talks In Tehran, Venezuelan Leader Called 'Brother' By Ahmedinejad

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"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/29/world/main1847331.shtml
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President Obama and Venezuela dictator Hugo
Chavez at the 2009 Summit of the Americas in Trinidad

Obama, Chavez shake hands at Americas Summit:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97KK2T00&show_article=1
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From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764
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Russia's Medvedev hails "comrade" Obama

Associated Foreign Press (AFP) ^ | April 2, 2009 | Anna Smolchenko

"Russia's Dmitry Medvedev hailed Barack Obama as "my new comrade" Thursday after their first face-to-face talks"

http://www.france24.com/en/20090402-russias-medvedev-hails-comrade-obama

April 1, 2009:
"Obama, Medvedev pledge new era of relations":
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090401/wl_afp/usrussiadiplomacynuclear_20090401152002

37 posted on 06/22/2009 12:28:10 PM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: COBOL2Java

If they give him a funeral. They may just chop him up and feed him to farm animals.


38 posted on 06/22/2009 12:31:52 PM PDT by Unlikely Hero ("Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils." --Berlioz)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Which ones? US Army/Navy/Air Force/Marine Corps? Or 0bama's civilian thug force?

Don't forget the huge number of Federal agents of every variety. It was BATF adn FBI Hostage Rescue Squad that did the dirty deeds in both Idaho (Ruby Ridge) and Waco, Texas.

The progressive militarization of the Federal workforce has created literally dozens of organizations with quasi-military arms and tactics, but without the well developed sense of history, honor and fidelity to the Constitution that the armed forces have typically inculcated in their members.

I suspect that, should there ever be an uprising of Americans against their government, it would be these various federalized police forces that would htake the lead in putting down the citizen rebellion.

39 posted on 06/22/2009 12:31:54 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: sonic109
We have already been taken over . Most Americans were too “busy” to even notice

If it comes to it, Most Americans won't be involved or even necessary. Freedom has always been fought for by the minority for the benefit of the majority.

40 posted on 06/22/2009 12:32:18 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Spring '09)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I’m thinking he meant The Acorn Guard of AmeriCorps.


41 posted on 06/22/2009 12:32:31 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Obama - A flexible container of vinegar and water)
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To: ETL
OMG! My EYES!

The heck with my eyes; My THOUGHTS..............UGH! Now I'll have to wash my brain with Lysol!

Did you have to do that!

ACK! Gak! Deee-skusting! Geeez!

42 posted on 06/22/2009 12:34:44 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Check out Oath Keepers.


43 posted on 06/22/2009 12:35:30 PM PDT by unkus
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To: lewisglad

Every Patriotic movement has their Nathan Hale or Jean Paul Marat who believe in the movement and give their life for it.


44 posted on 06/22/2009 12:37:18 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: lewisglad

Maybe his sons or daughters are in those crowds. Maybe he has a soul. Who knows, we surely won’t. Let’s hope and pray that more of the ranking officers will turn over the keys to the armories.


45 posted on 06/22/2009 12:39:50 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet!)
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To: unkus

Reminds me of a rather more secretive group called “The Resister” that was active in the Clinton years.


46 posted on 06/22/2009 12:40:25 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: lewisglad
protesting against what many in the country see as rigged elections

How can it be "what many in the country see as a rigged election" when they admitted that there were more votes cast in 11 cities than they had voters.

Sounds like it is a proven fact.

Idiot Press

47 posted on 06/22/2009 12:42:02 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: MrB

Except we have guns. I was pointing out that fact to my kids today. If police fired randomly into a crowd in the US, there would be return fire.

We retain guns not to defend against invaders, but to protect us from a tyrannical government.


48 posted on 06/22/2009 12:42:30 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ein Volk, Ein Riech, Ein Ein.)
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To: MrB

Or sooner.


49 posted on 06/22/2009 12:42:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: Sarajevo
Why did you have to call attention to that, you miserable lout?

Somehow, I missed that first time through the thread ... and then you just had to call attention to it.

Where's the eyewash station? Why do I have this powerful urge to gouge my eyes out?

;'}

50 posted on 06/22/2009 12:43:04 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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