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Revolutionary Guard Commander Defies Khamenei's Orders To Use Force On Protestors
The International Business Times ^ | 22 June 2009 @ 02:00 pm

Posted on 06/22/2009 12:07:22 PM PDT by lewisglad

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To: LTCJ
Freedom has always been fought for by the minority for the benefit of the majority.

Yup, just imagine what havok would ensue if just 100 of the protesters in Tehran had the rifle that the average deer hunter in the US has, with a scope on it. Ouch from a few hundred yards x 100.

101 posted on 06/22/2009 2:54:52 PM PDT by Bobalu (If life was fair it would be the horse's turn to ride.)
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To: MrB

“Three years?” I’m more inclined to say 3-6 months! He’s going to pull some kind of stunt or go for our guns, sooner rather than later. He knows that only a disarmed populace is controllable.


102 posted on 06/22/2009 3:05:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In memory of my father, Gunnery Sgt., USMC, WWII and Korea, 1925-2002)
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To: Spartan79
Man, those would be perfect, especially if they came with some sort of armor piercing rounds to be sure and go through the body armor some of the thug troops in Iran have on. Add in a few million Sten Guns for good measure!

103 posted on 06/22/2009 3:05:40 PM PDT by Bobalu (If life was fair it would be the horse's turn to ride.)
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To: MrB
We are watching this very closely. It usually only takes a small minority to make big social change. Martin Luther King, fax loving East Germans and Gandhi come to mind. (of course, it took the whole free world to blast Hitler out of office...)

Interesting times we live in...

104 posted on 06/22/2009 3:12:28 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: MrB
American Patriots need to watch this play out.
It could happen this way in 3 years.

Or three months, or three weeks, or even three days.

We are hanging by a very thin thread.

105 posted on 06/22/2009 3:15:05 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: sonic109
We have already been taken over . Most Americans were too “busy” to even notice , they voted for the enemy. Too many folks caught up in TV soaps and dancing with the stars to react to the soft take over of the USA.

Just wait until the American Idiot class figures out that their jobs are gone, their savings are gone, their houses are worth less than their mortgages and credit card companies have cut them off because nobody wants to buy the securitiezed debt. Oh, and their doctors all quit. THEN they will rise up in glorious revolution.... or something...

106 posted on 06/22/2009 3:15:26 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: rjp2005
My goodness this couldn’t be a WORSE TIME to have a clueless President in regards to foreign policy.

The Clueless One is boxed in.Suni vs. Shiia. They've been at each others throats for centuries. Obama bowed and paid homage to the King of Saudi Arabia, the Suni leader. Then he went to Cairo and gave his speech. That speech emboldened the revolutionaries in Iran to challenge the Shiite leaders. This is TWO slaps in the face of Shiite Islam. Obama has chosen sides and the Mullahs know darn well that Obama is a Suni. If Obama supports the revolutionaries in Iran, he further enrages the Shiite leadership. Obama may end up hiding in Salmon Rushdie's basement!!! If Obama supports Dinnerjacket and the Mullahs, the rest of the world concludes he's nuts! BWAHAHAHAHA!

107 posted on 06/22/2009 3:20:10 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: meadsjn
The nice thing about America is that we really don't have to riot in the streets (white America, anyway). We can just go to the polls in November of 2010 and kick every last one of our elected leaders out. There is still time to declare one’s candidacy for the congressional elections in 2010. Our revolution will be my voting booth and heaven help ACORN and any other DOMESTIC TERRORIST GROUP who stands in the way of the honest American voter.
108 posted on 06/22/2009 3:23:41 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

LOL, you just had to follow the link back to what he was commenting about.


109 posted on 06/22/2009 3:23:47 PM PDT by jerri
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To: April Lexington

“That’s good news!” And then the zen master said, “Well, we’ll see.”


110 posted on 06/22/2009 3:31:29 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: rjp2005

Yes, this is what is called a Tragedy!

A heartbreaking tragedy.

I believe it was the Polish uprsing where we sent in fax machines and copiers...the “twitters” of those days.
The idiot in charge at the White HOuse has a conference on sunday with his advisors for half an hour..then on to golf.

We have an open window in an almost impossible situation just a few weeks ago and this Moron blows it! so much for the 3am call.


111 posted on 06/22/2009 3:36:25 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel!)
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To: April Lexington

Obama bowed and paid homage to the King of Saudi Arabia, the Suni leader.
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Interesting. Saudis don’t want a strong shiite Iran, neither do they want a secular Iran. They want a weak Iran. humm


112 posted on 06/22/2009 3:54:42 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: lewisglad

Woah, this is significant.


113 posted on 06/22/2009 3:56:50 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: lewisglad
This can't end pretty. Iran and Islam in general have too much to lose should even miliions riot. Remember the iran/iraq war. These mullah's still have the arms and power. I pray for the brave persian people standing up against sheer odds of being murdered down the line.

Hussein O zero said it's not our fight basically, wimp that he is, kind of tough when he has his own Islam showing they really can't even have peace between themselves.....of course "we're the only peaceful'muslim nation," because ironically Omamazero, we're styill grounded in judeo-Christian doctrine and despite what you tell them and despite how you lie to your own people( supposed to be us) the fighters of Persia, the true revolutionaries need our help, but they're not going to get it, just like we left the Kurds and israel in the breeze....this isn't East/West Germany, this is way more dangerous.

114 posted on 06/22/2009 3:57:31 PM PDT by Karliner (Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before. DDE)
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To: Peanut Gallery

Ping


115 posted on 06/22/2009 4:01:38 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (What would Reagan do? Not go for freakin ice cream!)
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To: Son House
Injured young students die in Iran by BASIJIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npdISZUtdmU

June 22, 2009 ______________________________________

Seems You Tube really hates seeing Islam in this light, doesn't CAIR and other Islamic groups have this "truth" pulled? This reminds me of my first time around college during the 444 days Shah, Persian spies on ersian spies, our spies, journalists harrassed, frozen accounts and Persians dealing hard drugs to keep their good families studying engineering( probably some of the guys working on the nuke plant(s)) and religious studies...probably the mullahs with the guns.

116 posted on 06/22/2009 4:04:24 PM PDT by Karliner (Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before. DDE)
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To: lewisglad

Meanwhile our jackass president has no words of encouragement. This is where 0bama’s fortunes start heading downhill. Everyone can see what a cynical little wise guy he is


117 posted on 06/22/2009 4:07:34 PM PDT by dennisw ("stealth tribal warfare" is what the Sotomayor nomination is about)
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To: Texas Fossil
How can it be "what many in the country see as a rigged election" when they admitted that there were more votes cast in 11 cities than they had voters.

Maybe that's why Obama refuses to properly condemn the Iranian government. They use Chicago voting techniques. /sarc


118 posted on 06/22/2009 4:42:00 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men)
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To: magooey

“They use Chicago voting techniques. /sarc “

Sarcasm tag not needed, it is fact.

He thinks he is the Hidden Imam, Muhammad al-Mahdi, “The Guided One.”

He is a Lying Kenyan Commie Muzzie.

I will not be a “good little Dhemmi”.


119 posted on 06/22/2009 4:51:24 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: Texas Fossil

I have been shot at, shit at, and fortunately missed most of the time, now in the 4th quarter of my life I can think of little that scares me in defending my family and the way of life that America has given me...and I refuse to surrender zero...you have an old man pizzed with your actions..


120 posted on 06/22/2009 5:01:37 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Well said.

Lots of elder citizens feel the same.

Push comes to shove, it will be interesting. He does not have a clue about what being an American is, and even less about what a Texan is.


121 posted on 06/22/2009 5:17:36 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: Jack Black
...it would be these various federalized police forces that would htake the lead in putting down the citizen rebellion.

After a career in the LE profession and knowing some of the players at Waco, I agree with you wholeheartedly. They are "militarized" true enough, but as you witnessed in Waco, when faced by a determined group defending their territory, they can be severely damaged and weakened. Although well armed and equipped they are not as disciplined as trained infantry.

Yeah, and be burned alive you may say. But then again, they were trapped within their own walls and surrounded, always a bad thing. But remember also how they withstood so much. BTW, I asked folks that had access to "show the illegal weapons or evidence of", to my knowledge I don't believe any evidence was presented. If any good FReepers have links to that evidence I would sure appreciate it, I've been embarrassed before!

Janet Reno screeched that there was "child abuse going on!". Sure was, apparently inflicted by various agencies surrounding the "compound". But, the good sheriff of McClennon County had already investigated those charges and also complaints of possible illegal weapons, he had done his job well but nobody was interested.

Determined American citizens have an incredible ability to organize quickly and effectively and, as experience develops become very effective.

122 posted on 06/22/2009 5:21:55 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: twigs

Because he is on the side of Islam against freedom... and against America... and against whitey?


123 posted on 06/22/2009 5:25:08 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism (Hail Obama! Kill da white peoples!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

“It’ll be interesting to see how many of our own troops fire on the American public when Hussein orders it.”

In the last political survey of military officers, 90% of officers identified themselves as Republicans or conservatives. The numbers scared the socks off the leftists in Washington.

You tell me how many troops will shoot Americans, and what the consequences will be for those who order it.


124 posted on 06/22/2009 6:22:46 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: brushcop

” They are “militarized” true enough, but as you witnessed in Waco, when faced by a determined group defending their territory, they can be severely damaged and weakened.”

Many people noticed that. About 20 minutes into the firefight, the ATF surrendered to the women and children in the building at Waco and walked away with their hands in the air. Same thing happened in the LA riots. When confronted with a mob throwing bricks and bottles, the cops got in their cars and drove home.


125 posted on 06/22/2009 6:44:44 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: lewisglad

This man knows what is waiting for him in that “undisclosed location,” and he has known for decades that if he disobeyed these tyrants, he would be taken to that location.

If true, this man is a brave and honorable man for this action (I have no idea what is in his past), and he is worthy of praise.


126 posted on 06/22/2009 7:13:42 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The most dangerous fascists are those with a warm smile and soothing voice.)
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To: April Lexington

I’m less optimistic than you my friend. I hear there are polls out saying people would mind paying HIGHER TAXES if it helped fund health care for the do nothing class..


127 posted on 06/22/2009 7:41:13 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: MrB
I really dont believe the Obama Admin would handle things much differently.

2009 FEMA anti-protest exercise

128 posted on 06/22/2009 7:43:40 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: ETL

I read a comment from a poster who said Obama talked to Ayers and Dorn from that Blackberry Obama wouldn’t part with. Who knows if it’s true but who knows who’s running the country.


129 posted on 06/22/2009 8:06:21 PM PDT by TheThinker (America doesn't have a president. It has a usurper.)
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To: twigs

“And the president of the US is not strongly supporting these brave people desiring freedom, why?”

Because he supports the theocracy.


130 posted on 06/22/2009 8:27:49 PM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: MrB

I was thinking the same thing. There is so much civil unrest everywhere all over the world.


131 posted on 06/22/2009 8:39:45 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: April Lexington

” THEN they will rise up in glorious revolution....”

As long as they don’t cancel “American Idol”, nothing will happen!/s;)


132 posted on 06/22/2009 8:42:38 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: TomasUSMC
Well, they are getting a weak Iran in spades. If this revolution has any success, it will take years to re-assemble a shiite threat to Suni muslims.
133 posted on 06/22/2009 8:45:36 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: ETL

I understand the logical progression but that is just plain unnecessary.


134 posted on 06/22/2009 9:36:16 PM PDT by Lucian (I am, therefore, I'll think)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Or 0bama's civilian thug force?

ACORN.

135 posted on 06/22/2009 10:19:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Texas Fossil
How can it be "what many in the country see as a rigged election" when they admitted that there were more votes cast in 11 cities than they had voters.

Sounds just like the US.

No wonder obama isn't taking a stand on this one.

136 posted on 06/22/2009 10:22:48 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Vermont Lt; MrB
Except we have guns. I was pointing out that fact to my kids today. If police fired randomly into a crowd in the US, there would be return fire.

I think that that is especially true with regards to the police. I don't think you'd see that against soldiers as much, but there are so many hard feelings because of all the corruption and thug tactics that the police have been using lately, that there'd be a lot less hesitation to fire on them than the military.

137 posted on 06/22/2009 10:24:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Case in point, the Nationalen Volksarmee, and the Bereitschaftpolizei (Paramilitary police of East Germany), refused to open fire on protesters, when the surprise demonstrations started all over the country.

These were the pioneer units of communism. But they couldnt commit murder in the name of the party.

I imagine the same is the case with General Fazli.


138 posted on 06/23/2009 1:15:20 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: ETL

Ouch! THAT was uncalled for!


139 posted on 06/23/2009 1:46:37 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker

I was just keeping with the theme of ‘cracks showing’. :)


140 posted on 06/23/2009 3:36:58 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: lewisglad

Praise God!! I love this, the officers refusing to shoot on their own people.

People and military as one!


141 posted on 06/23/2009 6:54:14 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: bgill

“Poor guy.”

Brave guy, not a poor one. He’s not looking for pity he’s making a stand for his people. Don’t devalue his stand by giving him pity instead of praise. A stance for a man in his position takes guts.


142 posted on 06/23/2009 6:55:47 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: Vermont Lt

“If police fired randomly into a crowd in the US, there would be return fire.”

I don’t think the average officer would fire on his own fellow citizens. Just no way.


143 posted on 06/23/2009 6:56:45 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: April Lexington

“(of course, it took the whole free world to blast Hitler out of office...)”

Hitler had a fully brainwashed citizenry and made alliances with some of the most ruthless butchers on earth.

He also had some of the best minds at his disposal and had spent his time preparing.

I have no idea why or how, but he also convinced entire nations that the Jews were responsible for everything that went wrong and used brilliant minds to literally start a wholesale extermination in one of the most methodical ways possible.

He was one of the few people in history who had the chance to do wonderful things but went very very wrong. I’m still dumbstruck and all he managed to do. All those deaths.


144 posted on 06/23/2009 7:01:55 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: April Lexington

“The nice thing about America is that we really don’t have to riot in the streets (white America, anyway).”

I know. We have the most stable country in the world.


145 posted on 06/23/2009 7:02:48 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: Karliner

Maybe it’s just as well. Countries around the world need to stand on their own two feet and that way they can’t blame America for the political/economic/domestic problems that go on inside their borders.

“These mullah’s still have the arms and power. I pray for the brave persian people standing up against sheer odds of being murdered down the line.”

Just remember, we stood against the Brits and they were the superpower at the time. The Persians have the willpower and this has been bubbling away for some time, all the time. No one can live under the boot and not get angry at some point. Their anger shows that they are not a broken people.


146 posted on 06/23/2009 7:05:45 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Anger means your spirit isn't broken.)
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To: twigs

Because he does not like conflict or confrontation. I think you will see this reflected in his presidency. Non-violent protest is confrontation to the max. But he is not espounding on this.

If the Mullahs fall, of course Obama, not Bush, takes all credit. But clearly from a historical standpoint, Bush started the process in Iraq...then Lebanon....

But, I am pessimistic. I think the Mullahs will crush their own people like grapes...


147 posted on 06/23/2009 7:07:14 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: brushcop
Janet Reno screeched that there was "child abuse going on!".

Even if, for the sake of discussion, if that was true, since when are tax-collectors the preferred agents to be used in ending child abuse?

148 posted on 06/23/2009 8:20:44 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: MrB

yep .. .just what i was thinking.
O may make a power grab when he is voted out .. i can see him doing it and trying to institute a military rule over us


149 posted on 06/23/2009 8:32:22 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: Oldpuppymax
You might need to click here.
150 posted on 06/23/2009 8:41:16 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (Obama is to Nixon what mass murderer is to jaywalking.)
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