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Iran's Uncrowned Prince Cries Over Violence
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Posted on 06/22/2009 1:28:10 PM PDT by NoGrayZone
http://www.wmtw.com/video/19822260/index.html
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freedom; iran; pahlavi; protest; reza; rezapahlavi; shah; violence
Just heartbreaking.
To: NoGrayZone
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:28:32 PM PDT
by
NoGrayZone
(All aboard the 1st Annual Free Republic National Tea Party Convention 9/11-9/12. Be there!!!)
To: NoGrayZone
I’ll take a monarchy over a theocracy. A republic over a monarchy.
Rather have this guy in charge over there than the mullahs.
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:31:39 PM PDT
by
GraceG
To: NoGrayZone
My car now has an original style Iranian flag flying behind the American flag to show solidarity with the Iranians. There will be bumper stickers available in a couple of days. Stay tuned.
FREE IRAN!
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:32:20 PM PDT
by
oneamericanvoice
(Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
To: NoGrayZone
A few minutes ago I posted a comment on FR questioning how the prince fit into this Iranian situation. I wonder if he has any possibility of gaining power?
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:33:57 PM PDT
by
Uncle Hal
To: GraceG
And I quote.....
" Do not let them define what is disrespect for sovereignty, what is interference in others affairs".....
barry, you listening?
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:36:23 PM PDT
by
NoGrayZone
(All aboard the 1st Annual Free Republic National Tea Party Convention 9/11-9/12. Be there!!!)
To: freedom44; metmom; nuconvert; G8 Diplomat; Morgana; LibreOuMort; sionnsar; Cyrus the Great; FARS
Reza Pahlavi Ping!


Zende bad ala hazrat Shah!
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:36:33 PM PDT
by
SolidWood
(Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
To: Uncle Hal
only way a prince gains power these days is by running for office. his genes don’t automagically qualify him.
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:37:31 PM PDT
by
rahbert
("When Democrats are in charge, stupid things happen"..)
To: GraceG
Right you are. End theocracies! Our Founding Fathers were really smart when the wrote that we should never have an official church.
My Iranian friend told me that Mosavi isn’t any better. He was the PM after the Ayatollah took over.
Support the Iranian fight for freedom. Buy a bumper sticker from me in a couple of days.
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:37:49 PM PDT
by
oneamericanvoice
(Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
To: GraceG
I imagine the average Iranian long ago began to regret trading the Shah for the Mullahs.
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:38:26 PM PDT
by
colorado tanker
("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
To: Uncle Hal; Jeff Head
I must admit my ignorance here regarding Iran. I saw that video on Twitter (thanks to Jeff Head) and it just shook me.
I just don't get the “power thing” over in Iran, who is who and who is the more powerful.
But this Prince, so upset for his people being slaughtered in the streets, I just knew he was on the side of freedom.
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:40:47 PM PDT
by
NoGrayZone
(All aboard the 1st Annual Free Republic National Tea Party Convention 9/11-9/12. Be there!!!)
To: colorado tanker
regret say from like 30 years ago?
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:42:06 PM PDT
by
MissDairyGoodnessVT
(Mac Conchradha - "Skeagh mac en chroe"- Skaghvicencrowe)
To: Uncle Hal
I think many young and educated Iranians would like a return of the Pahlavis. I have observed among Iranian youngsters I know through family, that there is a markedly revived interest and admiration of the Shah, who symbolizes everything the mullahs aren't. Modernity, Westernization, women rights, prestige, pre-islamic glory etc.
I am being realistic though. He probably would be the No.1 target for terrorists and islamists worldwide.
Iran's future will in the best scenario be a republic with a parliament and a president plus prime minister.
But he still is an important leader for the exiled opposition and a symbol for many Iranians in "old country".
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:42:24 PM PDT
by
SolidWood
(Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
To: SolidWood
translation: Long Live the King !
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:42:36 PM PDT
by
MissDairyGoodnessVT
(Mac Conchradha - "Skeagh mac en chroe"- Skaghvicencrowe)
To: HonestConservative; Cindy; sono; holdonnow
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:43:12 PM PDT
by
AliVeritas
( Pray, Pray, Pray)
To: colorado tanker
The average Iranian just wants an apartment, a car and a steady paycheck. I don’t think having the 72 virgins is making them riot in the streets.
To: oneamericanvoice
My car now has an original style Iranian flag flying behind the American flag to show solidarity with the Iranians. I tied a long piece of 2" wide green ribbon to my antenna today to show solidarity with the Iranians who fight for Liberty.
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:47:41 PM PDT
by
sockmonkey
(Have you any idea how much tyrants fear the people they oppress? JKR)
To: All
"What is interference in others affairs" That tells me they are looking to us, America, for some reassurance, AT LEAST!
All I hear on MSM is exactly what the Prince stated..."meddling in others affairs". THEY ARE QUOTING US.
America used to be the worlds "police". I must admit, there are times I HATE that. But someone has to take the lead.
Unfortunately, a lot of "Americans" have gone and drank the kool-aide and think tyrants are "cool".
Apparently, it not only affects us, but the world at large.
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posted on
06/22/2009 1:50:10 PM PDT
by
NoGrayZone
(All aboard the 1st Annual Free Republic National Tea Party Convention 9/11-9/12. Be there!!!)
To: oneamericanvoice
After they take care of the Monkey and the Mullahs the demonstartors need to meet with Mousavi and ask him if he learned any lessons.
To: NoGrayZone
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posted on
06/22/2009 2:03:17 PM PDT
by
SolidWood
(Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
To: MissDairyGoodnessVT
I imaging the regret began when the floggings and stonings began.
The Stoning. http://www.stoning-themovie.com/en/index2.htm
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posted on
06/22/2009 2:20:46 PM PDT
by
colorado tanker
("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
To: NoGrayZone
The Prince’s father was the Shah of Iran who kept the Mullahs under control until he was overthrown with the complacency and help of Jimmy Carter. He was a true friend of America in a sea of opposition. Carter then even refused to allow the Shah into this country to get medical treatment so he was diverted to Mexico where he later died. Carter didn’t even bother to attend his funeral although Richard Nixon did.
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posted on
06/22/2009 2:27:59 PM PDT
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
To: rahbert
“only way a prince gains power these days is by running for office. his genes dont automagically qualify him.” In Iran perhaps, but I know of at least seven or eight ruling princes, sultans, and kings that automagically came to power the old fashioned way. Monaco, Liechtenstein, Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Brunei, Syria, and probably others.
Technically the uncrowned prince of Iran is really the uncrowned Shaw of Iran since Shaw is what the hereditary rulers of Iran are know as.
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posted on
06/22/2009 2:30:43 PM PDT
by
monday
To: colorado tanker
“I imagine the average Iranian long ago began to regret trading the Shah for the Mullahs”
The average Iranian wasn’t even alive during the Shaw’s rule. Over 70% of the population is under 30 years old. All they have known is oppression under the Mullahs.
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posted on
06/22/2009 2:34:42 PM PDT
by
monday
To: NoGrayZone
Every death of a Persian since January 1977 is on Jimmah Carter's head.
Carter is in the big leagues as far as accessory to murder.
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posted on
06/22/2009 2:41:17 PM PDT
by
Navy Patriot
(The Coward in Chief can't speak Farsi.)
To: monday
I remember the overthrow of the Shah, vividly.
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posted on
06/22/2009 2:45:50 PM PDT
by
colorado tanker
("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
To: NoGrayZone
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posted on
06/22/2009 4:01:49 PM PDT
by
The Californian
(The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
To: colorado tanker
I imagine the average Iranian long ago began to regret trading the Shah for the Mullahs. Granted that most Iranians I know were "Shah people," but from what I hear that's still true. The Communists, Marxists and militant Islamists... no.
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posted on
06/22/2009 7:05:35 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
To: SolidWood
I think many young and educated Iranians would like a return of the Pahlavis. I have observed among Iranian youngsters I know through family, that there is a markedly revived interest and admiration of the Shah, who symbolizes everything the mullahs aren't. Modernity, Westernization, women rights, prestige, pre-islamic glory etc.
I am being realistic though. He probably would be the No.1 target for terrorists and islamists worldwide.
Iran's future will in the best scenario be a republic with a parliament and a president plus prime minister.
But he still is an important leader for the exiled opposition and a symbol for many Iranians in "old country". Symbol, yes. The new monarch, no. I can only speak from what I hear from others around me, Iranians and Americans who know Iran, but they agree with yhour best scenario. Adding in a small dollop of what little I know, I am uessing that their republic would better mirror Israel's (*many* factions, alliance-building, etc.) then America's in her day (just two parties).
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posted on
06/22/2009 7:10:01 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
To: Mind-numbed Robot
The Princes father was the Shah of Iran who kept the Mullahs under control until he was overthrown with the complacency and help of Jimmy Carter. While I concur with the latter, I'm less sure about the former. I'm not highly educated about Iranian history but a book by the (former) Anglican Bishop of Iran (1961 - ca 1979), "The Hard Awakening" by Dehqani-Tafti, paints a different picture of the earlier years. The mullahs were not "kept under control" but actually exercised slowly increasing power through the '60s into the early '70s.
The corrupt peanut farmer of course wrecked everything.
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posted on
06/22/2009 7:15:35 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
To: Navy Patriot; LibreOuMort
Every death of a Persian since January 1977 is on Jimmah Carter's head.
Carter is in the big leagues as far as accessory to murder. Natural deaths too? Methinks you go a bit far.
(The Coward in Chief can't speak Farsi.)
Ummm... I can't speak P(/F)arsi either. Khodafez.
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posted on
06/22/2009 7:18:38 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
To: sionnsar
The Mullahs were under control enough not to be in power. However, after Carter was elected the MSM started a campaign against the Shah accusing him of torturing the Iranian people, etc. At the same time the Mullahs and their muslim supporters started demonstrating, too. After awhile, with no support from us, the Shah was forced out of power and the Mullahs took over.
Although I remember the situation quite well I don’t remember all the details without doing the research and I am too lazy to.
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posted on
06/22/2009 10:07:25 PM PDT
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
To: Mind-numbed Robot
Correct. However it was in Egypt where he died. Carter’s betrayal led to a odyssee across the world for the Pahlavis. They never could stay at one place for too long.
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posted on
06/23/2009 12:44:31 AM PDT
by
SolidWood
(Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
To: monday
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posted on
06/23/2009 12:51:08 AM PDT
by
antceecee
(Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
To: sionnsar
The mullahs and islamists were kept under lock by the Pahlavis, meaning that they weren't able for over half a century to dominate politics and force their dark vision upon Iran. Islamist terrorism in Iran dates back to the 1940's and the Shah (though not as much as his father) made sure that these islamist terrorists met the end they deserve.


Retrospectively the only regret is that the Shah wasn't harsh enough against the islamists and maybe a little bit too much focused on the (however very real) threat of Communist subversion.
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posted on
06/23/2009 12:51:36 AM PDT
by
SolidWood
(Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
To: SolidWood
Thanks for the correction, Egypt instead of Mexico, and for verifying much of my memory.
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posted on
06/23/2009 6:50:11 AM PDT
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
To: sionnsar
Natural deaths too? Yup, unless, of course, Persian life expectancy and standard of living has increased since 1980.
Thought not.
Khodafez.
Bad nistam
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posted on
06/23/2009 9:31:44 AM PDT
by
Navy Patriot
(The Coward in Chief can't speak Farsi.)
To: SolidWood
Retrospectively the only regret is that the Shah wasn't harsh enough against the islamists and maybe a little bit too much focused on the (however very real) threat of Communist subversion. You are very observant, and either way, this is a very tough call.
The Shaw was recovering from a phony, communist controlled, "democratically elected government" that was installed by Russian Communist (USSR) subversion.
The Russian Communists (USSR/Bolsheviks) coveted and planned for a warm water port from the time of the theft of the Russian Revolution, and among the intended victims, Persia/Iran was probably the most likely to fall to commie tactics.
The commies and the Mullahs were equally dangerous and equally evil.
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posted on
06/23/2009 9:50:24 AM PDT
by
Navy Patriot
(The Coward in Chief can't speak Farsi.)
To: sockmonkey
Great! I’m going to get ribbon too. The bumper stickers that my boyfriend and I made are being picked up tonight. Let me know if you are interested and I’ll give you info. We’re going to do a second design that should be ready in a few days.
Nowhere is the preciousness of freedom above peace more clearly demonstrated than in the Iranian struggle.
Isn’t it interesting that not one source is calling this a civil war, like they were so quick to do in Iraq.
I will pass on your support to my Iranian friends. It means so much that the American people are with them. God bless!
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posted on
06/24/2009 1:37:14 PM PDT
by
oneamericanvoice
(Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
To: NeverForgetBataan
According to my friend who went through the first revolution, Mosavi is no different than Ahmajinehdad. He was Prime Minister under Ayatollah Khomeni. They need to remove the Mullahs and everyone associated with them.
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posted on
06/24/2009 1:42:44 PM PDT
by
oneamericanvoice
(Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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