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The World Cannot Avoid Neda's Eyes
Congressional Quarterly ^ | 6/22/09

Posted on 06/22/2009 2:19:48 PM PDT by lewisglad

Her dark eyes are haunting. They reveal the intimate agony of a brutal death, but Neda Soltan died publicly -- for the world to see.

I am deeply stirred by the screenshot from a YouTube video showing Neda's eyes as she lay dying Saturday on a Tehran street.

A highly connected world allows us to experience things as they happen and that, believe it or not, makes us accountable for those events. They are no longer foreign news items posted on a ticker that does not force us to engage.

What is happening in Iran binds us as humans. What is happening does not allow us to be dislocated and remote. It demands our very human recognition.

It has not been independently confirmed who killed Neda, who was 26 years old. But Iranians who posted the video say the Basij, the pro-government paramilitary force, shot her, The Associated Press reports.

Nico Pitney quotes a BBC Persia interview that apparently features Neda's fiance, Kasamin Makan.

He says that Neda was not even a part of the protests when it happened. He also is quoted as saying:

"Neda's goal was not Moussavi or Ahmadinejad -- it was her country and was important for her to fight for this goal. She had said many times that if she had lost her life or been shot in the heart, which indeed (is) what happened, it was important for her to continue in this path," he said.

Whatever her political views actually were, Neda's face now is emblematic of a revolution. Memorial pages have been created for her on Facebook. Twitter is flooded with posts about her and the YouTube video depicting her death is a graphic, heart-wrenching recording.

This open display of anger and pain and protest coursing through social networking platforms connects us to the human cost of upholding the core values of Iran and any country. Every person has the right to judge a government freely and civilly. Elections should be free and without the terror of reprisal. Protesters should be respected, not disabled by tear gas or felled by bullets.

On Monday, the AP reported that a family member says Neda's family was prevented from having a funeral for her. However, an Iranian blogger, according to The New York Times, has identified Neda's grave. A photo on TwitPic shows flowers strewn across a mound of dirt. But I won't forget Neda's eyes.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; martyrs; neda; nedasoltan; studentmovement

1 posted on 06/22/2009 2:19:48 PM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad

Are we even sure she was killed? The palis are infamous for their staged PR stunts. The protesters could have learned sumthin from them. The video of her on the ground looking at the camera seemed odd to me.


2 posted on 06/22/2009 2:22:58 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: lewisglad

3 posted on 06/22/2009 2:23:15 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: lewisglad

So overwhelming and enormously sad.


4 posted on 06/22/2009 2:23:43 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: lewisglad

The World cannot avoid it, but the Administration can.


5 posted on 06/22/2009 2:25:01 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The Democrats have returned to their game of supporting totalitarian regimes. Now they're muslim.)
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To: lewisglad

I won’t forget them either. The pupils were fixed and dilated and somebody was doing chest compressions. You knew she was probably already gone...there was that ‘i am no longer here’ gaze.Very haunting. I hope these people succeed in overthrowing the 7th century mindset of the mullah’s running that historic nation of Iran.


6 posted on 06/22/2009 2:25:52 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: popdonnelly

0b0z0 can’t see past the ice-cream cone he’s shoving down his throat.


7 posted on 06/22/2009 2:25:56 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: pissant

The blood running out of her nostrils and into her opened left eye was quite the trick, wasn’t it.


8 posted on 06/22/2009 2:26:02 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: pissant

The difference is that because the Israeli’s are civilized atrocious behavior needs to be INVENTED for them.

Are you suggesting there is a shortage of actual atrocious and brutal actions on the part of the mullah’s of Iran such that some needed to be invented?


9 posted on 06/22/2009 2:27:00 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: lewisglad

I just joined the Facebook group(s).

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Fnews%2Fnationworld%2Fworld%2Fla-fg-iran-neda23-2009jun23%2C0%2C6240992.story#/group.php?gid=93968864865


10 posted on 06/22/2009 2:28:25 PM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012......."GIVE ESTROGEN A CHANCE!!!!")
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To: reagan_fanatic

yeah........looked real to me, she never blinked or closed her eyes......

I believe it was not CPR being performed but rather an attempt to control bleeding.......when the blood could not spurt out her chest, it poured out her mouth.

and anyone notice the positioning of her arms?

she was dying.


11 posted on 06/22/2009 2:29:57 PM PDT by tioga
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To: pissant

I remember one time at the beach, when a friend poured blood into my open eyes. It was real hard to keep my eyes open, not blink, and stare into space at the same time. But it was fun and totally worth it.


12 posted on 06/22/2009 2:31:14 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: allmendream

No. I’m just asking if we are sure this particular one wasn’t staged.

You won’t find me neutral like Obama in this. I want to see the mullahs swinging from lamp posts.


13 posted on 06/22/2009 2:32:01 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: lewisglad

It’s sad to see that people have to die for their right to have their vote counted. The people of Iran suffered from dictators all over their complete history. For me personally it is a shame, that the only democratic elected iranian gouvernment ever (in 1951) was overthrown by the UK and the US in 1952 who installed the shah regime. The people of iran hoped that the revolution of 1979 would restore their right to vote. But instead they’ve got the next totalitarian regime. I hope that the “Sea of green” will bring iran a true democracy.


14 posted on 06/22/2009 2:33:06 PM PDT by buzzer
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To: pissant

As do I. I would even build the lamp post.

In the coming days I think a single woman laying shot and dying will be the least of the brutality the Iranian people will be suffering.

There will be no shortage of real brutality, thus my disbelief in the need to stage any.


15 posted on 06/22/2009 2:37:59 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: pissant

If it’s put on then the acting and special effects are better than most anything coming out of Hollywood. Pali productions are very amateurish by comparison.


16 posted on 06/22/2009 2:38:27 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Flying Circus

Especially when they drop the casket and the kid climbs back in. LOL


17 posted on 06/22/2009 2:39:33 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Are we even sure she was killed?

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the whole thing was a brilliant fake? Such a hack would definitely surpass John Grierson's famous 1940 film edit at Hitler's expense. It would be even better if it led to the mullahs' Ceausescuization for a crime they did not commit!

18 posted on 06/22/2009 2:43:36 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: popdonnelly
The World cannot avoid it, but the Administration can.

The Lesser United States being constructed under this Administration is no longer a leading nation in the world, so it may not matter.

19 posted on 06/22/2009 2:45:37 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: cynwoody

Yes it would be. I’d prefer it were fake, and she was in hiding, not dead. And I would also prefer the mullahs swinging from lamp posts for their 30 years of atrocious anti-American activities, amongst their other crimes.


20 posted on 06/22/2009 2:48:30 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: jimbo123

She was a stunning woman wasn’t she? That picture of her is grotesque, poignant and still somehow her beauty comes through.

I wish I knew that it sound stupid what I just said, I’m sure it does, but just something I feel.

Like I know her or something! I mean this woman in an instant became a PART OF MY LIFE.

Does that sound insane guys?


21 posted on 06/22/2009 2:50:26 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: pissant
You won’t find me neutral like Obama in this. I want to see the mullahs swinging from lamp posts.

So would most of us, but Obama as POTUS has played this correctly.

22 posted on 06/22/2009 2:51:56 PM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: Deb

What???


23 posted on 06/22/2009 2:53:01 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: autumnraine

The poignancy of this woman’s death makes Obama’s cowardice even more sickening. God rest her soul.


24 posted on 06/22/2009 2:54:14 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Riodacat

Not really. Giving the mullahs any legitimacy is a sign of weakness.


25 posted on 06/22/2009 2:54:30 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Guenevere

Just being ironic.


26 posted on 06/22/2009 2:55:47 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: pissant
Are we even sure she was killed?

No. I remain unconvinced.

27 posted on 06/22/2009 2:56:49 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Deb

Your irony was effective (and pretty damn funny), kudos.


28 posted on 06/22/2009 3:00:25 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: pissant

So exactly what is it you would have said or done todate (if you were POTUS) and what would be the expected outcomes of your actions?


29 posted on 06/22/2009 3:02:37 PM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: pissant
The video of her on the ground looking at the camera seemed odd to me. She wasn't looking at the camera. The camera moved around her. Her eyes didn't move. You're looking at the eyes of a corpse.
30 posted on 06/22/2009 3:02:53 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Be a good little white boy--get an education, use your talents, work hard, then give us your money.)
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To: Riodacat

I would have said the same thing about the Iranian elections as I said about the pre invasion Iraqi elections and the election that brought the marxist Hugo Chavez to power in venezuela. That they were corrupt and cheated the people out of their votes and that we stand for those who fight for freedom from tyranny and corruption.


31 posted on 06/22/2009 3:06:24 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Riodacat

I’m pretty sure Reagan wouldn’t have jumped in the ole First Limo and taken Patti & Ronnie out for ice cream while people were dying in the street. And he wouldn’t have worried about “playing” it correctly. He would have issued a statement of support for the reformers and focused the eyes of the World on the clerics. But that was just Reagan.


32 posted on 06/22/2009 3:08:44 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
“I won’t forget them either. The pupils were fixed and dilated and somebody was doing chest compressions. You knew she was probably already gone...there was that ‘i am no longer here’ gaze.Very haunting. I hope these people succeed in overthrowing the 7th century mindset of the mullah’s running that historic nation of Iran.”

Yeah, you could tell when she lost consciousness. Her eyes rolled up and that was it. She was already dead for all practical purposes. Shot in the heart she would have lost almost all blood pressure within seconds. She was probably already dizzy by the time she sat down and by the time she was laid on her back her world would have quickly faded to black. From bullet impact to unconsciousness probably only took 5 seconds. Another poster said she was looking at the camera. She wasn't looking at anything by that point.

33 posted on 06/22/2009 3:28:56 PM PDT by monday
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To: Deb

Don’t be vague, tell me what Reagan would have said.


34 posted on 06/22/2009 3:38:33 PM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: Deb
He would have issued a statement of support for the reformers and focused the eyes of the World on the clerics. But that was just Reagan.

Do you think Reagan would have gone on the air and stated that Amreica supports those Iranians who want to overthrow their Gov't - and put the kiss of death on them?
Get real. Reagan wasn't that stupid.

35 posted on 06/22/2009 3:42:34 PM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: lewisglad

bttt


36 posted on 06/22/2009 4:01:38 PM PDT by The Californian (The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
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To: Deb
I’m pretty sure Reagan wouldn’t have jumped in the ole First Limo

But he would have, according to the NYT, in order to go down to the homeless camps and bum cans of beans from the idiots.

37 posted on 06/22/2009 7:24:51 PM PDT by Free State Four
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To: lexington minuteman 1775; monday

BUMP! BUMP!

Condolences to family and friends of Neda. RIP dear young lady.


38 posted on 06/22/2009 7:30:38 PM PDT by PGalt
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