Posted on 06/23/2009 12:51:42 PM PDT by steve-b
French president Nicolas Sarkozy's rejection of the burka and the face veil are "in keeping with the republican spirit of secularism," according to the rector of the Grand Mosque in Paris, Dalil Boubakeur, quoted by media.
Boubakeur said he supported a proposal by French MPs for a panel of deputies to look at the wearing of the burka "on the condition that they listen to what the experts on Islam have to say".
The burka marked "a return towards Islam's past, in line with the preaching and vision of fundamentalists" added Boubakeur (photo)....
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I don’t think the state ought to be telling people they can’t wear what amounts to a ninja costume. If a woman is being forced to wear it through violence there’s already laws against that.
I thought it was only French WOMEN who were now supposed to wear the burka and veil...
they should be banned here too and all over the west.
It does not state anywhere in the koran that a woman has t wear an hijab.
These people are bringing up little girls and telling them that they have to wear it, they have to marry who they are told etc and that is not child abuse???????????????????????????????????????????????????
Where are the women of the left denouncing this practise and saying that a woman /girl should have freedom.
but the women are too afraid to come forward, case in point a group of muslims women in Denmark are now being sought after and living in fear because they were trying to help muslims women who wanted to escape their primitive so called religion.
If a woman is being forced to wear it through violence there’s already laws against that.
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You obviously don’t understand the Muslim religion.
Throats have been slit over a woman not obeying her husband in this religion.
I get that. But I personally do not support further eroding religious freedom and political speech because some women are justifiably too afraid to come forward.
There are better ways to approach this: such as, making it easier for these women to separate from these women, obtain restraining orders, etc.
not a religious thing though as it does not state in the koran they have to wear one, just like they say they should have special mortgages because they should not pay interest and they get it here and Europe.
They use many points as their religion when in fact it is not stated in their koran.
Murder does not justify further erosion of religious freedom and political expression. These freedoms, after all, do not come from the State but from our Creator. The State has no right to impose a permanent tyranny for the sake of preventing a criminal from committing a crime.
So how about: if a man slits a woman's throat he goes to jail and I keep my rights. Sound good?
exist, spend some time viewing the horrors at this site, which contains dozens of photos of Muslim women who have been disfigured by acid, knives or other abuse by their husbands, fathers, brothers or neighbors.
Certainly there are innumerable religious customs and traditions practiced across the globe today that were developed long after the religion's founding book, tablet, or scroll was written.
Furthermore, it is not a requirement for a religion to write a book in order for it to be considered a religion.
Therefore, the notion that a custom is or isn't a religion because it is or isn't in a book is illogical.
not really , it depends how you look at it and you and I look at it differently
I have lived and was raised in England and have lived all across Europe, so I have seen how wearing an Hijab affects society.
From girls in a school who do not wear one and become a minority are then harassed and sometimes forced out of school, to here in my state where a woman went to court saying she should not have to take her face veil off for her drivers license.
The list is endless.
Some years ago I was in Marseilles France and in the northern part of that city is mostly north African, you know Libyans, Tunisians Moroccans etc.
A couple told me in a cafe how his girlfriend was not even in that area but was at the train station when she was attacked.
Why?
Because she showed her skin
This is all over Europe right now and the way I look at it is that we should not have it here.
Obviously You have a different view to me
correct .
I’;ve seen first hand i England the dangers of letting them wear this to how they use it to force others to either wear it or move out.
The wests laws slowly corrode because of it and it is disgusting that they bring girls up this way
If there were thousands of people wearing ninja costumes they would be banned too. It isn't a question of religious liberty, it's a question of public safety. If everyone wore a basic black outfit that completely covered their faces and concealed their identities, drivers licenses would be meaningless. Surveillance cameras would only report that someone who looked just like everyone else robbed the bank or killed a family in their sleep.
I don't think they care if those women want to wear black bags over their bodies, just as long as they keep their faces uncovered in public.
“obtain restraining orders, etc.”
Those are jokes. They offer no protection, zero.
How about you also pay to bring up that woman's children. Better yet why don't you provide that woman 24 hour protection so she doesn't get her throat slit in the first place? Sound good? That way you get to keep your religious freedom and no one has to die because of it. After all freedom isn't free.
Your problem seems to be that you think that just because a practice is done for religious purposes that that alone justifies it being legal. What about slavery of women? BTW the burka is the way Muslim men identify their slaves. What about female circumcision? Honor killings? Jihad, the practice of making war against non believers? Just exactly how crazy does a religious practice have to be before you would consider making it illegal?
If he's convicted of the crime I'd prefer he'd be permanently rehabilitated. Dead guys aren't recidivists.
There are "no-go" zones all over European cities with high Muslim populations, where the police will not go in to save an unwitting tourist or native victim who has wandered into the immigrant banlieux (Muslim ghettos). No wonder Sarkozy is putting his foot down.
UK, on the other hand, is paying the dole to multiple wives and not gearing up to fight honor killings in London and elsewhere. It's shocking. Then we hear the liberal whine about the immigrants' problems being caused by unemployment. If there are no jobs, hey, why not revoke a few visas? (Smacks forehead!) But noooooo.... that would be "racist."
* sigh *
In many places in the US, there are laws against being masked on the public streets.
I am afraid that you are keeping your mind open and your
eyes shut. Some customs are not acceptable in any place.
Note the source of the statement in support of Sarkozy....
Human sacrifice was a part of Aztec religion. Don’t need it here...
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