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Couple Fights Back Against Home Invaders
WFTV-TV ^ | 6/24/2009 | Staff

Posted on 06/24/2009 7:50:02 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici

LEE COUNTY, Fla. -- A couple fought back against two bold intruders in their Lee County Home.

The homeowner and his fiancee, a retired coast guard officer and a former maximum security prison guard, said they woke up in their home early Monday morning to find a gun pointed in their faces.

The couple took action and fought back against the two intruders. The homeowner even managed to get the crook's gun.

"At that point I was going to take his life and he begged for his life, ''I don't want to die, I don't want to die, please don't kill me, let me go,'" said the homeowner.

Afterward, the men ran off, but they turned around and shot at the house. One of the bullets grazed the homeowner's shoulder.

Lee County deputies say they are looking for the two bold thieves.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; florida; home; homeowner; invasion
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Food for thought.
1 posted on 06/24/2009 7:50:03 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici

He should have put one in their legs.


2 posted on 06/24/2009 7:52:03 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Tough call there...shoot the dude when he is begging for his life? I suppose he could have just popped him in the leg...or at least i would have.


3 posted on 06/24/2009 7:52:15 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: VeniVidiVici
"Why is it that those who are the first to ask for mercy are the last to give it?"
Louis L'Amour

4 posted on 06/24/2009 7:52:49 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: VeniVidiVici

Tactically speaking, it would have been easiest to kill the perp as he was begging for his life.


5 posted on 06/24/2009 7:54:23 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: VeniVidiVici

If you don’t want me to take your life, don’t invade my home. That’s my policy, plain and simple.


6 posted on 06/24/2009 7:56:42 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: VeniVidiVici

In some states, the homeowner would have been arrested for stealing the burglar’s gun.


7 posted on 06/24/2009 7:56:46 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (When the going gets tough, the tough go out for ice cream.)
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To: pnh102
Tactically speaking, it would have been easiest to kill the perp as he was begging for his life.

LOL! Yeah, but then you gotta put up with all that whining.

Tough call for me. I can Monday morning quarterback with the best of them but, unfortunately, I probably would have done the same thing that this guy did. Or maybe at least forced him to stay down and call the cops.

I'm glad I read this article.

8 posted on 06/24/2009 7:58:14 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gasoline has gone up 60% since the Osama inauguration.)
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To: NMEwithin
Tough call there...shoot the dude when he is begging for his life? I suppose he could have just popped him in the leg...or at least i would have.Tough call there...shoot the dude when he is begging for his life? I suppose he could have just popped him in the leg...or at least i would have.

Bare minimum, a real serious pistol whippin'. Enough to keep him in a relaxed state 'til the poe-lees arrived.

9 posted on 06/24/2009 7:58:54 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I’m sure the homeowners gave a description of the burglars to the cops.

Why wasn’t that included in the article?


10 posted on 06/24/2009 7:59:58 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: stuartcr

When dirtbags like this plead for their lives, pause very briefly and consider what they had planned for you. If you STILL don’t want to rid society of some bona fide scum, kneecap them. It will be extremely painful and guarantees that they are not running anywhere - ever.


11 posted on 06/24/2009 7:59:58 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Iran's Cry for Freedom - Obama can't be bothered. Above his Pay Grade?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I agree, and they won’t forget either.


12 posted on 06/24/2009 8:02:24 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

The only reason I might not have shot them in the leg, is that there would be a mess to clean-up, and it would cost me. I think taking them out to the yard and doing it, or in the bathtub, would not carry much weight in court. So it would really depend a lot on where in the house it happened.


13 posted on 06/24/2009 8:06:02 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I agree, but killing both of them would bring lots of grief in court, I’m afraid.


14 posted on 06/24/2009 8:07:21 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

“At that point I was going to take his life and he begged for his life, ‘’I don’t want to die, I don’t want to die, please don’t kill me, let me go,’”

Okay...BLAM! Go to Hell.


15 posted on 06/24/2009 8:08:20 AM PDT by BigCinBigD ('When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,')
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Use the gun and break his nose. Real hard to even see when your eyes are teared up and there is lots of blood spewing from your nose.


16 posted on 06/24/2009 8:11:45 AM PDT by Texas resident (Texan by birth and by choice.)
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To: stuartcr
He should have put one in their legs

Do that in CT & you're screwed.

The DA will ask "was your life in danger?" When you say yes. They come back with "Well, if your life was in danger, why did you shoot him in the leg?"

Happened to a friend of mine. And, YES. The laws here in CT favor the bad guy. Why, if you hear a noise downstairs, you can't grab your gun & investigate.....CT sees that as "hunting".

Nice, huh?

17 posted on 06/24/2009 8:12:25 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Leaving all the ethical considerations aside, these people have a really terrible security system if two guys can get into the house and point guns in their faces. Surely their security should involve motion detector lights outdoors, alarms at any potential entrance to the house, a dog, a small emergency backup dog, a locked bedroom door, and readily-accessible firearms next to the bed.


18 posted on 06/24/2009 8:12:52 AM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama! (If you're old enough, you'll understand the reference))
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To: MrB
I’m sure the homeowners gave a description of the burglars to the cops.

Why wasn’t that included in the article?

Good question, but I'm sure we all know the answer.

19 posted on 06/24/2009 8:13:05 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gasoline has gone up 60% since the Osama inauguration.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Not enough info in the story.

So, the homeowner let them leave AND he did not disarm them? And for his trouble he gets wounded in the shoulder. Hopefully he learned something.


20 posted on 06/24/2009 8:13:36 AM PDT by doodad
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To: VeniVidiVici

Have you all noticed that there are more and more stories like this? And this government wants to disarm us at the same time. For what reason? Duh, they want chaos so enough sheeple will beg for government protection.


21 posted on 06/24/2009 8:13:44 AM PDT by Texas resident (Texan by birth and by choice.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
If I am even in the unfortunate situation as these homeowners, you better believe I won't be saying a word to the press about it. Why immortalize statements that can come back to harm you later?
22 posted on 06/24/2009 8:17:19 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Have you punished an 0bama supporter today?)
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To: Puppage

Couldn’t the defendant just say they didn’t want to kill, that’s why the leg? Crazy state


23 posted on 06/24/2009 8:19:03 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Should have killed them when he had the chance. Wouldn’t surprise me if they come back and kill the homeowners.


24 posted on 06/24/2009 8:20:37 AM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: BigCinBigD

That’s exactly what you do. Considering that they fired shots at you and hit you AFTER you let them go? Who is to say the perps won’t be back to settle the score? The only way to be sure is to finish the job, call your lawyer and let 1 out of 12 men say not guilty. Always better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6. ALWAYS!


25 posted on 06/24/2009 8:20:43 AM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: ottbmare

The only one listed that I have, which is more than most of my friends, is the weapon nearby.


26 posted on 06/24/2009 8:20:52 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Prayers that the perps do not come after this couple in the future.


27 posted on 06/24/2009 8:21:30 AM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Denny Crane on guns:

http://dustinsgunblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/denny-crane-takes-on-armed-thug.html


28 posted on 06/24/2009 8:22:09 AM PDT by ByteMercenary
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To: doodad

I was thinking the same thing. Did he let him leave and give him the gun back? I suppose one way to handle it would have been to unload his gun, hand it back to him, then shoot him dead with your own gun. “He pointed his gun at me, and forced me to shoot him” Clear self defense.


29 posted on 06/24/2009 8:22:12 AM PDT by JTHomes
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To: DallasDeb

If he had at least shot them in the leg, odds are, if they came back, they would be slower.


30 posted on 06/24/2009 8:22:12 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: ottbmare

not so in florida, where we have the castle doctrine and no bag limit.

...I’m thankful to report.


31 posted on 06/24/2009 8:23:31 AM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: Waywardson

“That’s exactly what you do. Considering that they fired shots at you and hit you AFTER you let them go? Who is to say the perps won’t be back to settle the score? The only way to be sure is to finish the job, call your lawyer and let 1 out of 12 men say not guilty. Always better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6. ALWAYS!”

Here in Texas there would be no trial. Just a call to a carpet cleaning service.


32 posted on 06/24/2009 8:23:45 AM PDT by BigCinBigD ('When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,')
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To: VeniVidiVici

At least we know they were “bold.”


33 posted on 06/24/2009 8:23:45 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: stuartcr
Couldn’t the defendant just say they didn’t want to kill, that’s why the leg?

I guess their thinking is that A)You're only supposed to use your gun if your life is in danger. And, B) if it is in danger you're going to go for center mass, not a difficult leg shot where the danger is "injured" but not completely eliminated. Also, a wounded perp can & WILL sue the crap out of you. Going to court in a wheel cahir, etc. where a dead perps family doesn't hold nearly the same level of "feeeling" for jurors.

It's crazy here. It's so bad, that if a perp steals your purse, etc and runs away....if you give chase with your gun in hand, YOU'RE now the bad guy.

34 posted on 06/24/2009 8:24:58 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: ConservaTexan

That is good policy.....and common sense.


35 posted on 06/24/2009 8:30:05 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Puppage

Definitely crazy state


36 posted on 06/24/2009 8:30:38 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Puppage

Any time a perp is in your home your life is in danger.


37 posted on 06/24/2009 8:31:54 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Any time a perp is in your home your life is in danger

Couldn't agree more.

38 posted on 06/24/2009 8:32:52 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: woollyone

Florida or not, castle doctrine or not, it’s best to have some warning when people are getting into the house. In other words, if you wake up and find a gun in your face, it’s tough to even reach a hand out get to your own weapon. It’s nice to have some system that lets you know you have incoming. Then you have time to wake up and put the weapon in your hand.

As a single lady, I like the electronics around the perimeter. I had a wonderful young (but tired) dog sleep right through a major house fire, so dogs aren’t the sole answer, either.


39 posted on 06/24/2009 8:32:58 AM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama! (If you're old enough, you'll understand the reference))
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To: NMEwithin

No no then they would sue the homeowner and then thier homeboys would come back and then the big problems start.


40 posted on 06/24/2009 8:36:40 AM PDT by crazydad (=============)
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To: Fresh Wind
In some states, the homeowner would have been arrested for stealing the burglar’s gun.

Yeah, or possessing an unregistered weapon.

41 posted on 06/24/2009 8:39:54 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
When dirtbags like this plead for their lives, pause very briefly and consider what they had planned for you. If you STILL don’t want to rid society of some bona fide scum, kneecap them. It will be extremely painful and guarantees that they are not running anywhere - ever.

I might give them a minute or two to make their peace with their maker, but that's about all.

42 posted on 06/24/2009 8:41:51 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: stuartcr
I agree, but killing both of them would bring lots of grief in court, I’m afraid.

But they couldn't testify against you....or sue you for kneecapping them either.

Better to be judged by twelve than be carried by six.

43 posted on 06/24/2009 8:43:40 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Afterward, the men ran off, but they turned around and shot at the house. One of the bullets grazed the homeowner's shoulder.

This is why I wouldn't convict someone who shot at a burglar when he was running away. You still may not be safe, even if they are running away.

44 posted on 06/24/2009 8:45:32 AM PDT by bluegirl
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To: Fresh Wind

I could actually see that happening in Kalifornia and Massivetwoshits!

I mean, heck in DC they would arrest the home owner for stealing the gun and then charge him with illegal possesion!

Welcome to the new Hopey-Changey Amerika!


45 posted on 06/24/2009 8:45:32 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Food for thought.

How the heck did they get in without waking up the couple? Did they leave a door unlocked?

46 posted on 06/24/2009 8:46:05 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Retired COB

What I got from the story was that after he disarmed them, he did not believe there was still a threat, until after they escaped. Story was kind of confusing.


47 posted on 06/24/2009 8:47:37 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I have bars on my windows and two dogs sleeping in the bedroom. If anyone still manages to break in, they are going to die and pleading won’t help.


48 posted on 06/24/2009 9:48:56 AM PDT by TexasRepublic
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To: bluegirl
“Afterward, the men ran off, but they turned around and shot at the house. One of the bullets grazed the homeowner’s shoulder.”

This is why I wouldn't convict someone who shot at a burglar when he was running away. You still may not be safe, even if they are running away.


Exactly. If they have a weapon that reach out at a distance, you most certainly do not know if they are “running away” or only trying to get to a better tactical position.
49 posted on 06/24/2009 9:51:58 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: DallasDeb
Wouldn’t surprise me if they come back and kill the homeowners.

That's what's always in the back of my mind - THEY know YOUR address, but you don't know theirs. Take care of the problem now. I never could figure when someone says "I'll get you for this" why the rejoinder isn't "We'll settle this NOW!".

50 posted on 06/24/2009 11:30:36 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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