Skip to comments.H1N1 flu victim collapsed on way to hospital [Latest H1N1 updates downthread]
Posted on 06/24/2009 8:04:24 AM PDT by metmom
Within minutes, six-year-old Rubjit Thindal went from happily chatting in the back seat of the car to collapsing and dying in her father's arms.
"If we had known it was so serious, we would have called 911,'' Kuldip Thindal, Rubjit's distraught mother, said in Punjabi yesterday. "She just had a stomach ache -- she wasn't even crying.''
Rubjit was pronounced dead at hospital barely 24 hours after showing signs of a fever. Later, doctors told her parents she had the H1N1 influenza virus. She is believed to be the youngest person in Canada with the virus to have died.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.guelphmercury.com ...
‘Pretty healthy’ people dying from H1N1
It sure seems there is something unusual going on, with some people that get this virus.
My heart goes out to these parents.
You’re not kidding. The only consolation is that their daughter never really suffered.
When I go, I’d like to go that quickly.
A woman in my area died of it but she had underlying health issues. We were not given her name nor info on her health issues.
Often little ones get unexplained fevers. This is scary.
There sure is something weird about this virus.
Notice, too, that when the virus wasn’t killing people, everyone was in a tailspin about it.
Now, people are dropping like flies and by the amount of coverage it’s getting, you’d never know there was a virus that deadly and unpredictable going around.
What’s up with the MSM I wonder.
Cytokine storm? Getting scary.
So is this fall going to be 1912? One wonders .... The timing would be impeccable if the senate and congress were debating national healthcare. Not saying there is a conspiracy, but things just aren’t going our way so much ...
My youngest used to get a fever whenever it got too hot out. She wasn’t sick, but just cannot tolerate the heat.
So how would I know whether she was sick or not?
Scary indeed. And it’s occuring out of normal flu season.
I read on FR that this is 4 types of virus mixed together. That’s not normal. Conspiracy theory alert! Was it remixed and reintroduced? It wasn’t killing but now it is? Lots of questions.
I have grandbabies that I worry about. They get sick easily and if one gets it, they all do.
There was a thread sometime back when the whole swine flu thing started where someone was quoted as saying that there was something, some markers of some kind, that indicated that this was an engineered virus.
They didn’t even tell hospital staff which patient it was. Nor the public. So how does one know if they’ve come into contact with it?! This is nuts!
Wait until the fall and winter when this thing mutates. It has the halmarks of another 1918 flu pandemic written all over it. Infected "HEALTHY" people will most likely be dropping like flys all over the world and could end up being stacked like cord wood. My folks lived through it and it was devistating! It happened before and it can happen again. Don't believe me, just check out what happened with the 1918 flu. The truth is this swine, avian, human flu strain is worse/more dangerous than 1918 because of it's composition. They are working on a vaccine but what will cover the globe in the fall winter will most likely mutate and the vaccine will probably be useless! Scary stuff but in all honesty, it can happen here, especially given the fact that America and the world are ripe for judgment.
Don’t ignore the role socialized medicine played in this death. If you read the article, the parents took her to the ‘clinic’ multiple times and they were given advil.
The current virus mixes an existing triple combination of human, avian and swine influenza identified in 1998 with two new swine virus genes from Asia and Europe, both of human origin.
They're too busy being in love of B. Zerobama to notice anything so mundane as H1N1 killing people.
One possible reason was that everyone over-reacted the first time, and then there was backlash and everyone said it was nothing. The press doesn't want to risk looking foolish.
Another possible reason was that Obama ordered the press to play it up big as a way to get the Senate to quickly confirm abortion extremist Kathleen Sebelius, who had lied about how much Killer Tiller paid her, so she could deal with the "crisis." That caused the Republicans to cave and drop any attempt at a filibuster.
I remember the hullabaloo in the SRM about the bird flu and how that total idiot, bushchimpyhitlerfascist didn’t have us adequately prepared. Yet, I don’t believe anyone in the US contracted the bird flu.
Remember, BO is totally smart and can do no wrong for the SRM.
I admit, the whole thing seems weird, but then these viruses mutate all the time as leaps frog from person to person, it could be that we’ve just never seen a straing morph into a major killer before our eyes like the this, we have such instant reporting today this might be how these always happen.
I have children and would hate to think of one complaigning about a stomach ache and only a mere hours die from it, that is a very frightening thing. If you think the hospitals were swamped a few months ago wait until the MSM starts covering these stories each night.
thanks for the ping :)
We will just have to be very vigilant.
Did I miss something? I've only heard about maybe 3 or 4 deaths in the US, and in each, there was an underlying medical condition. Even this article says,
The exact cause of her death has not yet been determined, but the virus is known to have been a contributing factor, Dr. Arlene King, Ontario's chief medical officer of health, told a news conference Monday.
If people are indeed dropping like flies, there seems to be a total coverup. And MA at least is still trying to keep up the drumbeat -- another school closure for a week because of absenteeism, e.g.
803 hospitalizations in New York from swine flu according to the article link .
7 More Swine Flu Deaths Reported, NYC Total at 30
Seven more deaths in New York City have been linked to swine flu, bringing the total to 30.
The Health Department did not make a formal announcement but quietly updated the numbers on its Web site Friday.
The city has refused to release details about swine flu deaths,and would only say that victims ranged in age from 25 to 64.
The number of confirmed New York City cases also rose to 1,083, with 803 hospitalizations. Officials believe many more have had swine flu because the city does not test everyone who has mild symptoms.
No Prior Existing Conditions but Dead Anyway
Who would think that a normally healthy woman would die so swiftly from influenza in June?
Could you ever have imagined such a thing? No wonder her family and friends are in shock.
So why did it happen?
Originally Posted by www.todaystmj4.com
Barbara Davis, 48, was healthy just a week ago. She had dinner with her mother Josephine last Friday night. But just hours after that dinner, Josephine got a phone call.
My friend, he called me and told me Barbara was real sick. And I said, Well, she wasnt sick when I left, so whats the matter? Josephine Davis said.
Barbara told her mother that she was ok. But the next day, things got worse. She had trouble breathing, and she was shaking. She could barely walk into the hospital.
She tried to talk to people, but she just couldnt talk, Josephine Davis said.
Doctors treated her for two days, but they couldnt save her. They believe she died from swine flu.
Theyve never seen nothing like that, what she had. That infection just went through her body, attacking her kidney, her lungs, her liver. Everything, said Josephine Davis.
The Milwaukee Health Department confirmed on Friday a Milwaukee adult with no underlying medical conditions died from swine flu, though they havent confirmed Barbara Davis was that victim.
Barbaras family knows all too well how serious swine flu can be.
Everybody is just in a shock. The people that I talked to today, they are frightened. Because it happened all of a sudden, Josephine Davis said.
More than 1,800 people have caught swine flu in Milwaukee alone. The citys Health Department is stressing that if you are mildly ill with flu symptoms, you should call your doctor. If your symptoms are serious or if you have mild symptoms that are getting worse, you should see a doctor right away.
Originally Posted by www.wisn.com
The Milwaukee County Medical Examiner said 48-year-old Barbara Davis died Thursday in the ICU after being diagnosed with the flu strain.
The health department said, unlike Milwaukees first swine flu victim, Davis did not have any underlying medical conditions that would have put her at a greater risk for the disease.
There are many more reports of previous healthy people dieing from the H1N1 Flu . The next town over from me a healthy person died . The state of Utah said on it’s website they won’t report on any swine flu deaths .
This woman should have lived .
If you read the familys statement at the bottom ( & THE 2 articles links below ) this woman should have lived but was refused Tamiflu :(((
She was healthy before too according to family & statement..
Third Utahns dies of swine flu
June 14th, 2009 @ 12:22pm
SALT LAKE CITY A third Salt Lake Valley resident has died from complications of the swine flu.
Craig Whitehead says his sister, Franice Rushton, 47, got sick after his mom was diagnosed with type-A flu.
Rushton initially tested negative for the flu, but continued to feel worse.
They took her to the doctor and Jordan Valley Hospital, where they found she was suffering from pneumonia and her kidneys were beginning to fail.
Whitehead says she eventually ended up at Intermountain Medical Center, where she got a positive test for the swine flu. He says by that time the flu had gone untreated for too long, and she died Saturday.
Whitehead says he wanted to get the word out so that people would not become complacent.
The Salt Lake Valley Health Department confirmed the death.
Flu Victim Familys Statement
7:40 PM MDT, June 14, 2009
Our family would like to express thanks to the Shock and Trauma unit at IMCH. And to those who have prayed and supported our family over the past 2 weeks.
Francine and her mother became ill with the flu two weeks ago today. Her mother tested positive and was treated for the flu and has since recovered. Francine tested negative and was sent home. Her health continued to decline, and three days later she was taken to Jordan Valley Hospital. For the second time she tested negative, was sent home, and told to increase fluids and rest.
We begged the doctors to treat her with Tama flu because it had helped her mother, but they refused because her test had come back negative. After another three days she became incapacitated, and was again taken to Jordan Valley where she was admitted and found to have pneumonia, plus all of the symptoms associated with the flu, but once again tested negative. At this point she had had the flu for approximately eight days, untreated. Her condition continued to decline, and on Tuesday was transferred to IMC Hospital. By this time her body was so ravaged from the virus that her kidneys and lungs started to fail and brain activity had diminished. On Wednesday, June 10 we received a positive Type-A flu test, and on Thursday we received, from the CDC, a positive test for H1N1, Swine Flu.
After fighting a valiant battle she succumbed to this illness. It has been reported that she had underlying illnesses that contributed to her death, but according to her doctors she died from lung damage, kidney failure, and brain damage which were all strong and healthy prior to contracting the virus.
Oregon’s second swine flu death confirmed: a young Marion County child
by Don Colburn, The Oregonian
Tuesday June 23, 2009, 4:51 PM
Oregon health authorities have confirmed the state’s second known death — in a young Marion County child — from the new H1N1 influenza virus, also known as swine flu.
The child, identified only as “younger than 5 years old,” died June 15, and infection with the swine flu virus was confirmed by the Oregon State Public Health Laboratory Tuesday. The child had “no known underlying medical conditions and a two-day history of fever,” and was not hospitalized, officials said.
There have been some deaths in CNY from swine flu. I saw the article just recently but can’t find it now.
Considering the number of people who are supposed to have been in fine shape just dying so suddenly, dropping like flies, isn’t such a bad analogy.
here’s another article no pre-exisiting conditions but dead from swine flu :(
States only swine flu death still a mystery (Massachusetts)
Mother Speaks about Swine Flu Death
Mother says son was healthy ....
Posted By: Rachel Kingston Posted By: Claudine Ewing 1 min ago
When Matthew Davis was feeling ill at home just days before died, he asked his mom, what is wrong with me, am I going to die, recalled Lucretia Belton.
Belton is the mother of Davis. The 15-year old boy was scheduled to graduate from eighth grade at Harvey Austin School #97 in Buffalo on Wednesday. Instead the family will be attending his wake at Amigone Funeral Home in Buffalo.
Davis, according to his mother was healthy. There was nothing wrong with my baby, no cold, not even a sniff, said Belton.
In an interview with 2 On Your Sides Claudine Ewing, the grieving mother explained how fast her son became ill. It was one week from the day Matthew started feeling that he died.
Students, teachers and community members are mourning the teens death.
Flags there are at half staff and a sign in front of the school says Our hearts and prayers are with the family and loved ones of Matthew Davis.
Over the weekend, a spokesman for the Erie County Health Department confirmed a death associated with swine flu.
Buffalo Teachers Federation President Phil Rumore said its his understanding that the 15-year-olds health was further compromised by an underlying MRSA infection.
Belton says doctors told her as a result of the swine flu her son contracted MRSA and pneumonia.
Im not coping. I want my baby. can they give me my baby back. Im a mess, said Belton about the death of her son.
She wishes the school was closed when the teacher was diagnosed with swine flu. It is not known how Matthew Davis was infected. She has an older son who attends Riverside High School, but he was never ill, although district officials closed that school to deal with the swine flu in the building.
Buffalo Schools Superintendent Dr. James Williams says grief counselors are on hand today.
Only a small number of students are required to report to school to take final exams.
A second Buffalo student - who attends the Charles R. Drew Science Magnet School #59 Museum Campus, remains hospitalized with Swine Flu. The child, a female, is listed in critical condition in the Pediatric Intensive Care unit at Women and Childrens Hospital.
People apparently "in fine shape" die all the time. Every year there seem to be at least one or two student athletes or cheerleaders, etc. who keel over.
Yes, I heard about that; the thing is, a few days later it was quietly reported (I saw it on Fox 25) that she did indeed have an underlying condition (nature unspecified). Initial reports that don't mention an underlying condition may only mean that the person wasn't being treated for anything. I believe there was a student athlete last year or the year before who died suddenly and it turned out he had a previously unrecognized congenital heart defect. A friend's husband dropped dead of one, about a week after a thorough physical that never spotted it.
Such underlying conditions can apparently only be discovered through an autopsy.
I don't know if you have any medical background or not, but what would you do with a 6 year old that presented with a slight fever and intermittent muscle pain? Most doctors here in the US would do exactly the same thing as this doctor, given that this little girl did not present with flu symptoms. Kids get viruses all the time. There is nothing a doctor can do but treat the symptoms. For her symptoms, Advil would have been the remedy of most physicians. There really isn't enough information to determine why this little girl died. Maybe we should find out what happened before assigning blame with the doctors?
Well times change. Right now doctors need to err on the side of caution. I took my son in yesterday with a fever, he tested positive for swine flu. Now on tamiflu as the whole house is. It was difficult to find it and it’s expensive $600.
2 more Utahns die from H1N1 flu
Two more Utahns have died as the novel H1N1 flu continues to spread throughout the Beehive State at a rate that is “well above the epidemic threshold,” for the reporting period June 14-20.
The Utah County Health Department reported a woman between the ages of 18 and 39 has died, and the Davis County Health Department reported the death of a boy between the ages of 5 and 17. As with several other Utah victims, both had underlying medical conditions, health officials said, adding no other information on either victim will be released.
The deaths bring the Utah total for novel H1N1 flu fatalities to 10.
The Utah Department of Health released new statistics Wednesday afternoon showing 81 more people have been hospitalized in the past week, bringing the total of hospitalized cases to 210.
Confirmed cases of the virus have now been identified in all of Utah’s local health districts, though not all of those districts have seen patients hospitalized. Officials said the majority of cases, hospitalizations and deaths have occurred along the heavily populated Wasatch Front.
Most of those hospitalized have risk factors including chronic lung, heart or kidney disease.
“Families should begin preparing for what they would need if they are asked to spend a week away from school, work or other activities. Now is the time to update, or create, your emergency stockpile. Items like food, water, tissue, sanitizers, over-the-counter medications and prescription medications are all useful items to have on hand in the event you become ill and are confined to your home,” officials said in a press release.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is now estimating the virus will be a “Category 2,” which means it has the following characteristics:
Case fatality ratio of 0.1 percent to less than 0.5 percent.
Between 90,000 and 450,000 deaths in the U.S. (compared with estimated 36,000 deaths during a typical influenza season).
Excess death rate of between 30 to less than 150 per 100,000 people.
Illness rate of between 20 percent and 40 percent.
Similar to the 1957 flu pandemic.
State health officials have released an online set of guidelines for employers who are trying to determine how best to deal with the outbreak. Details may be found online at health.utah.gov/epi/h1n1flu/Q&As_Employer_061609_Final.pdf.
U.S. state of Oregon confirms second A/H1N1 flu death
www.chinaview.cn 2009-06-25 05:39:45
SAN FRANCISCO, June 24 (Xinhua) — Public health authorities in the U.S. state of Oregon have confirmed that a young child recently died from the A/H1N1 flu, the second such death in the state, local media reported on Wednesday.
The child, who had no known underlying medical conditions and a two-day history of fever, passed away on June 15, The Oregonian newspaper said.
The case was confirmed Tuesday by the Oregon State Public Health Laboratory.
An Oregon woman who had multiple underlying health conditions died on June 7 after eight days in a hospital, marking the first A/H1N1 flu-related death in the state.
Oregon’s two confirmed deaths of the new influenza, including the young child, both occurred in the state’s Marion County.
A total of 219 cases of A/H1N1 flu have been confirmed in Oregon since the beginning of the outbreak, the state’s health officials said, noting that the new flu continues to present similarly to seasonal flu in terms of severity.
H1N1 crisis deepens (Canada)
The Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs has declared a state of emergency over the H1N1 flu pandemic, a move it hopes will rattle the cages of the province and the federal government and cause them to spring into action to combat the potentially deadly virus.
AMC Grand Chief Ron Evans said he and his fellow chiefs want to ensure government officials are fully aware of the devastating impact the H1N1 virus is having in their communities throughout the province.
“The governments need to step up. There is no plan in place. Nobody wants to accept responsibility for First Nations. There is very little combatting the H1N1 pandemic. Our people are sick,” Evans said at a press conference at the AMC’s downtown headquarters Wednesday.
The AMC’s desperate call for action came as the province announced the number of confirmed H1N1 cases in Manitoba jumped by 163, bringing the total to 458. As of Monday, 37 patients with the most severe flu-like symptoms have been put on ventilators in intensive care units.
Evans and 11 other chiefs decried the province’s inability to complete even the most simple of tasks on a timely basis — getting hand sanitizers into the communities that needed them — describing it as “a political and bureaucratic nightmare.”
Part of the problem is that commonly used hand sanitizer products can contain upward of 60 per cent alcohol and there was concern among health officials as well as some First Nations chiefs, that the sanitizers could be misused for intoxication.
Anne-Marie Robinson, assistant deputy minister of Health Canada’s First Nations and Inuit health branch, told a Senate committee of discussions between chiefs and public health officials about sending alcohol-based products into communities with addiction problems because there have been “rare” cases where it has been problematic. Robinson would not disclose which reserves had been involved in the discussions and never linked the talks with the “difficulty” she acknowledged was experienced in getting hand sanitizer to some of the chiefs who had asked for it.
David Harper, chief of the Garden Hill First Nation, which is located about 600 kilometres northeast of Winnipeg on Island Lake, said he has heard before of people ingesting hand sanitizer to get intoxicated and that his own band council talked about the alcohol-based products because Garden Hill is a dry reserve where alcohol isn’t allowed. He said they quickly identified alternative products and there’s no excuse for the delay in getting supplies to Garden Hill when so many people were getting sick.
Harper said he waited for more than two weeks for hand sanitizer and other supplies to arrive, by which point he had already purchased $15,000 worth of merchandise.
A shipment of 2,500 bottles of sanitizer did arrive in Garden Hill last week from the federal government — they were alcohol-based. Some has been distributed to families and some of the stock is being kept at the school and a police station. Harper said the federal government has shown a willingness to get off its wallet when it comes to other catastrophes in the past. For example, it doled out $425 million in aid after southeast Asia was hit by a tsunami in 2004 and it partnered with the province to bail out Manitoba hog producers, who have been suffering an economic backlash because H1N1 was originally called “swine flu,” with another $37.7 million. Harper said aboriginal leaders would welcome Canadian soldiers with open arms if the federal government opts to deploy them to reserves to help fight H1N1.
“If Canadian forces are being sent all over the world to help out, why not in our communities? We need help,” he said.
Health Minister Theresa Oswald said the province didn’t have a specific response to the AMC’s plea because it has effectively been in a state of emergency since April. The province calls it incident command status, instead.
Oswald said she and members of the province’s health incident command team have taken a number of measures to deal with the pandemic, including invoking an emergency provision in the collective agreements of doctors and nurses to reassign them where they’re needed, postponing elective surgeries to build capacity in the hospital system for intensive care patients and having First Nations leaders participate directly in its pandemic response structure.
Oswald said she spoke to Evans Wednesday afternoon and asked for a list of areas where the province hasn’t delivered and he wasn’t able to provide any specific shortcomings.
Britain set for “explosive outburst” of swine flu as numbers rise
London - Britain expects an ‘explosive outburst’ of swine flu infections in the autumn and winter of 2009, the government’s chief medical officer said Thursday.
Liam Donaldson said that in three areas - Scotland, London and the West Midlands - the spread of the virus had ‘moved beyond containment, leading the authorities to adopt a policy of ‘outbreak management.’
He said the authorities had been unable to prevent the spread of the infection in those areas, where ‘sustained community-based transmission’ had now taken hold.
Health Secretary Andy Burnham said that 3,597 cases of influenza
A (H1N1) infections had been confirmed in Britain so far.
I remember reading about those markers too. Not enough media coverage on that of course—
Another new death. New Jersey, Bergen County. No media reports that we’ve seen.
ping... (Thanks, DvdMom!)