Skip to comments.Alleged Robbers in U.S. Illegally (Killed Denny's Employee)
Posted on 06/24/2009 1:44:17 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
Three men who allegedly stormed into a West Side Denny's over the weekend and killed a 34-year-old cook were in the United States illegally, and one had been deported less than a year ago after an arrest. Pablo Ortiz, who police say is a member of the notorious Salvadoran gang MS-13, was arrested in Albuquerque in May 2008 on suspicion of DWI. After a judge found him guilty, Ortiz spent 46 days at the Metropolitan Detention Center. He was released on July 7.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents "put him on a plane and sent him back to El Salvador" in August of 2008, the chief said. "Some time in the next few months, he sneaked back into the country." Federal officials also confirmed that two other suspects in the Denny's shooting are here illegally, but it is unclear whether 22-year-old Marvin Lopez-Aguilar and 25-year-old Francisco Melgar had previously been deported to El Salvador.
Schultz said in the case of Ortiz's May 2008 arrest, the officer who pulled him over did not contact federal authorities because the officer did not believe his immigration status was pertinent to the DWI investigation.
The current policy reads: "Officers shall not inquire about or seek proof of a person's immigration status, unless the person is in custody or is a suspect in a criminal investigation for a nonimmigration criminal violation and the immigration status of the person or suspect is pertinent to the criminal investigation."
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Well I hate to say this, but I’ve thought about killing a Denny’s cook a few times myself.
Illegals robbing and killing. WHODATHUNKIT.
Waltzed back is more like it.
Hey, aren’t these guys entitled to amnesty?
Alleged Robbers in Alleged U.S. Allegedly Illegally (Killed Alleged Denny’s Employee)
There - that’s more pc. Don’t want to offend anybody.
This time, they should have the Air National Guard C-130 fly them back to El Salvador, and drop them out of the ramp at about 15,000 feet AGL.
Citizens should be able to sue the officials who make stupid laws that cost the lives of American citizens.
“Chief of Police states Albuquerque is not a “sanctuary city”, but “Immigrant-Friendly”!!! To read the article, click on the “Free Trial” button. No registration required.”
It wasn’t too immigrant friendly to that cook.
As my dad used to say, when someone else said “But they just keep coming back!” - “Not if you drive a wooden stake through their heart they don’t!”
The Chief of Police is a liar then. ABQ and NM is a great place to live but the crime SUX.
US officaials “put him on a plane and sent him back to El Salvador”.
Obama’s fault. If our government was serious about the illegal immigration problem these people would be imprisoned for their crimes, not sent back to return and commit more crimes.
Obama is the friend of illegal immigrants.
The Chief of Police is a liar then. ABQ and NM is a great place to live but the crime SUX.
I was only in ABQ once, a while ago...got stuck in a freak snow storm on a cross country motorcycle trip and was NOT ready for it...I think it was May...waited out the storm all day in a local diner downtown...real nice folks...I thiught it would probably be a good place to live...that was a long time ago, though and I guess it’s like alot of our cities, getting taken over by thugs...
Delivery in a small box after death!!
Now the Chief and city administration has blood on his/their hands. Way to go dude! IDIOT.
It is a great place to live but for the crime. Also, it isn’t motorcycle friendly which is not good because I ride too. There are too many crazy drivers. It seems weird to say but it is the truth. I am not the only one who thinks that way.
it is the crime and nobody seems to understand what to do about here.
I used to live in Boise and this would never happen there. Cops shoot to kill there :-)
“I used to live in Boise and this would never happen there. Cops shoot to kill there :-)”
Small world...my Dad grew up in Boise...been there a few times, but not lately...right about them not taking any bullshit up there, though...I might end up there, the way things are headed...please tell me it’s still one of the last normal places left?
Damn speed reading.
Here I thought it was you that did this.
Oh! Oh! These guys are in trouble now. They will be facing capital deportation to life.
I would go back in a heartbeat. It is on mind. It is pretty cool you have been there.
Lessee, in 1847 the border between Mexico and the U.S. looked exactly the same for hundreds of miles in each direction.
We turned our side into a generator of wealth and prosperity. You turned yours into a corrupt crime-ridden hellhole.
And now you want to do the same with "ARE" side?
>As my dad used to say, when someone else said But they just keep coming back! - Not if you drive a wooden stake through their heart they dont!
LOL - Awesome quote.
Relatively lenient? "SCOFF"!
That’s strange. When I went to get my NM DL a few years back, I had to provide two proofs of residence, my DL from my prior state, my BC and SS Card. Oh, wait, I’m the wrong “type.”
I’m serious. People who are affected (like the family of this poor woman) should sue those responsible for allowing illegal aliens to be here in such numbers. I realize they won’t win, but it would bring this issue out *from the shadows*.
Well sure. Next to just buying them cars and chauferring them from crime scene to crime scene, letting them basically have NMDL's on a whim actually does look relatively lenient in comparison.
What, your name doesn't end with "Z"?
I was thinking more along the lines of Natural Born Citizen.
Many of our legal, natural born citizens here in NM, who happen to have names that end in "z", are also very much against giving illegals a NM DL. Unfortunately, I think they are now in the minority...
I know my sister-in-law's family from Abiquiu certainly does. Try calling them Mexican and you'll have a real fight on your hands. They're "Spanish".
My good buddy from Cordova once told me: "We only let the Mojados come here so the fat chicks can get laid too".
That's been my experience since moving here. Woe be unto he who calls a long-time local a "Mexican." I learned that long ago when I was a kid, and I didn't even grow up in NM.
Of course since our governor is sort of a 'reverse anchor baby' himself, who grew up in Mexico and owes his psychic allegiance to Mexico, rather than the USA, it is no wonder that he embraces illegal immigration.
However, I have no idea what excuse those other nine states have for their policies to legitimize the illegal.
You owe me a keyboard!
Seriously, I grew up in southern CO where the local Hispanics were mostly descendants of the original Spanish, and very classy and mostly well-off.
Here's an article from the Tribune in 2007 regarding this driver's license subject:
"Brickbat: ID mojo
We want to tread a fine line here, because both the Democrats and the GOP are trying to make political hay out of the issue of providing New Mexico driver's licenses to foreign nationals.
State Motor Vehicle Division Director Ken Ortiz is understandably pleased with the results of a recent audit by the state Department of Taxation and Revenue. The audit of 30,000 New Mexico driver's licenses issued to foreign nationals since 2003 showed that 65 raised questions - and 21 so far have had to be canceled because of identification problems. The rest need further scrutiny.
The audit was ordered by Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson, after the GOP began challenging the licensing in the Legislature and in court, arguing New Mexico isn't being stringent enough about verifying IDs. The audit appears to show the current system - at the least - could be a lot worse.
The problem we have is with Ortiz's reaction: "We feel very confident with our numbers; we think it's very successful. We're doing everything we can to verify people are who say they are."
Well, maybe not.
In this border state, in these post-9/11 times, when terrorists as well as undocumented workers have the motivation to sneak into the United States, when all sorts of scammers - including methamphetamine abusers - are practicing identity theft to raise money, in which buildings have been robbed of MVD driver's license blanks and processing equipment, in which MVD employees - such as accused murderer Michael Astorga's mother - have been suspected of issuing fake licenses to people, it's probably a good idea to be a lot more pessimistic than Ortiz lets on.
It is to New Mexico's and the nation's benefit to find that issuing 65 questionable driver's licenses is unacceptable, that 21 cancellations are far too many, and that there's a lot more the state can do to verify people are who they say they are. Let's not leave well enough alone."
Wanna bet someone else is issuing those fake licenses in Astorga's place?
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