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Barbour tells NH GOP inclusion is key ["We're a big party"]
The Union Leader, Manchester, NH ^ | 2009-06-24 | Jillian Jorgersen

Posted on 06/24/2009 9:19:20 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

BEDFORD – The Republican party needs to rebuild itself from the bottom up, said Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour last night before addressing a gathering at a New Hampshire State Republican Committee reception.

"You're in the White House for eight or 12 years, you become a top-down party, I don't care if these are Republicans or Democrats.

When you get out, you're liberated to rebuild your party from the bottom up," he told reporters before a reception at at C.R. Sparks, which was closed to the press.

Barbour assumed chairmanship of the Republican Governors Association yesterday, following South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford's resignation from the post. Sanford announced his resignation during a press conference, after admitting to an extramarital affair that took him to Argentina last week.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2010; 2012; 2012gopprimary; barbour; barbour2012; bigtent; gopfuture; inclusiveness; newgop; nh2012; rga; rino; rinoparty
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1 posted on 06/24/2009 9:19:20 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: bamahead

fyi


2 posted on 06/24/2009 9:19:33 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

le tent est grande.


3 posted on 06/24/2009 9:20:59 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

And full of Democrats like McCain.


4 posted on 06/24/2009 9:21:43 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

The Republican Party left me. They’re going to have to earn my return. Proof is in the pooding.


5 posted on 06/24/2009 9:22:31 PM PDT by unkus
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To: rabscuttle385
At least Barbour didn't call people who want Obama to fail idiots.
6 posted on 06/24/2009 9:25:18 PM PDT by exist
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To: wardaddy; KLT; montesquiue; Downsouth55; Michael Knight; ejonesie22; bkwells; DogwoodSouth; ...

Mississippy Guv ping #2


7 posted on 06/24/2009 9:25:20 PM PDT by WKB (From "Handout" to "Bailout")
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To: rabscuttle385

How about being a constitutionalist and conservative party, like your platform says you are SUPPOSED to be.


8 posted on 06/24/2009 9:28:32 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rabscuttle385
The Governor has got to realize-— When republicans stopped behaving like republicans, they started losing. At the same point, Dems starting acting like Dems and they starting winning. Catch a pattern here?? Rebuilding from CONSERVATIVE values while focusing on the youth vote and Internet is going to be the only way to rebuild the republican party. Youth are embarrassed to claim they are republican...WHY??? We need to work on making conservative values the "in and cool thing" Then we will succeed. The big tent myth is just that, and the dems figured it out sooner than the GOP.
9 posted on 06/24/2009 9:29:46 PM PDT by mrsixpack36
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To: rabscuttle385

Unless they have a Big Idea to act as a tent pole they got nothing. Being the “me too only slower” Socialist party is not going to cut it.


10 posted on 06/24/2009 9:30:40 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: pissant

“How about being a constitutionalist and conservative party, like your platform says you are SUPPOSED to be.”

Ha. That “big tent” belonging to the idiot class that runs the GOP only opens to the Left.


11 posted on 06/24/2009 9:30:44 PM PDT by Pelham (California, formerly part of the USA)
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To: rabscuttle385

Leadership is not pandering to the people. It’s about being principled and getting people to see that you are right.


12 posted on 06/24/2009 9:32:16 PM PDT by byteback
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To: bamahead

Ah, yes, Barbour wants us to be more inclusive — i.e., water down our principles so they encompass more people.

The flaw in that thinking, of course, is that as they attract more people who like the watered down principles, they repel those of us who liked the original principles.

I wonder how long until a republican gets the idea to convince people that the Founding principles are right (instead of chasing their tails trying to adapt principles to each person and situation)?


13 posted on 06/24/2009 9:33:14 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The term “inclusive” is code for Republican light with a bid tent for gays, lesbians, transgenders, amnesty for illegal. Mr. Barbour go pound sand, we just lost an election with a big tent candidate


14 posted on 06/24/2009 9:38:13 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: byteback

Leadership is not pandering to the people. It’s about being principled and getting people to see that you are right.
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Right, and that’s why the RINO’s won’t gain any ground.

We’re in for CHAOS . Things are falling apart and they’re grasping at threads.


15 posted on 06/24/2009 9:40:16 PM PDT by unkus
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To: rabscuttle385

“The Republican party needs to rebuild itself from the bottom up, said Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour...”

“You’re in the White House for eight or 12 years, you become a top-down party, I don’t care if these are Republicans or Democrats.”

“When you get out, you’re liberated to rebuild your party from the bottom up,”

So basically he’s saying that when one or the other Party is in, it isn’t in their interests to maintain control of themselves, so they lose it? Does that pretty much sum up what he is saying?

I always liked Haley Barbour, but those statements are asinine IMO.


16 posted on 06/24/2009 9:47:20 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: mrsixpack36

“When republicans stopped behaving like republicans, they started losing.”

I can’t quite remember what Haley Barbour was doing back then, from 1989 to 1992


17 posted on 06/24/2009 9:49:05 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: rabscuttle385
Seriously, with 0bama and the Democrats stinking up the place, all Republicans have to do is be normal.
Why are they having such a hard time with that?
 
18 posted on 06/24/2009 9:52:33 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: rabscuttle385

WRONG Gov. Barbour! They USED to be a big party WHEN THEY WERE CONSERVATIVES!


19 posted on 06/24/2009 9:52:37 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: WKB

wake me when it’s over


20 posted on 06/24/2009 9:55:45 PM PDT by wardaddy (Proudly Anti-Abortion, not and will never be Pro-Life)
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To: rabscuttle385
I think Barbour is right on the money. Unfortunately, so many here are overreaction because of a few bad apples like our last few presidential candidates and senators.

I heard Barbour speak in my state, and this is talking about the same stuff here as he did here. He's a state's rights guy and believes in leaving those issues to the states. Besides that, its general less government.

21 posted on 06/24/2009 9:57:47 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (We do what we have to do.)
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To: rockinqsranch
Not really. It is a bit of inside baseball terminology. The problem is that when Bush was in charge, it was a top down party based on Bush. The GOP was supposed to follow Bush....and his big government programs.

The hypocracy cost us in 2006 and also in 2008 when leadership failed to heed its 2006 lessons.

22 posted on 06/24/2009 9:59:27 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (We do what we have to do.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Barbour was the original “Big Tenter” and was partially responsible for the Bob Dole debacle of 1996(I was there).


23 posted on 06/24/2009 10:01:51 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: unkus

Can we just leave the ReDUMBlican party behind and start over. I am soooooooo sick of these RINO lib dirtbags.

Can Sarah Palin start the new party up for us? The non-sick people of America would gladly follow her lead.


24 posted on 06/24/2009 10:01:55 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism (Virtue is its own reward and vice is its own punishment .)
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To: rabscuttle385
full of democrats like mccain

Yeah, a shame the way they helped elect Reagan...

25 posted on 06/24/2009 10:03:19 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: rabscuttle385

Here’s a clue.

It hasn’t been done by either side in decades.

Are you ready?

Try actually R-E-P-R-E-S-E-N-T-I-N-G Americans instead of giving them the shaft.

Your puny little tent will become a colossal stadium.


26 posted on 06/24/2009 10:04:45 PM PDT by Califreak (Dissident under duress)
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To: Enoughofthissocialism

Can Sarah Palin start the new party up for us? The non-sick people of America would gladly follow her lead.
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We can >join< her, not >follow< her. We must let her lead the way and support her. Then, the movement will follow.


27 posted on 06/24/2009 10:07:06 PM PDT by unkus
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To: wardaddy

wake me when it’s over


I’m getting to that point. I’m damded sick of it all.


28 posted on 06/24/2009 10:08:24 PM PDT by unkus
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To: byteback

Well said!


29 posted on 06/24/2009 10:14:11 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Enoughofthissocialism
The non-sick people of America would gladly follow her lead.

That's the problem with America. We have too many followers.

No thanks to a new party. It's good for a protest vote, but nothing more. I'll stay here, lead by example, and work on fixing MY party, the GOP.

30 posted on 06/24/2009 10:14:48 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (We do what we have to do.)
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To: unkus

really...someone explain to me how we get enough blacks and mexicans to be “conservative”

are we camp counselors now?

Tony Robbins?

Preachers?

we need to get more socially conservatives peckerwoods off their fat arses and to the polling booth...around 58% ought to do


31 posted on 06/24/2009 10:15:02 PM PDT by wardaddy (Proudly Anti-Abortion, not and will never be Pro-Life)
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To: rabscuttle385


Show me some love, fellas!
32 posted on 06/24/2009 10:17:56 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: Kozak

How true. You don’t go out to round up people into your party.

No one will ever agree with everything in a party.

What you do is focus on a set of principles and values that will make our country free, prosperous, strong, safe and where everyone will have the opportunity to be the best they can be, not hindered, held back or penalized by government.

You then won’t need to go and try to pull in people to your party, they will just naturally come by themselves, be energized and proud to be members.


33 posted on 06/24/2009 10:31:01 PM PDT by GivemeaBREAK! (Hey Michelle, for the 1st time in my life I'm not proud of my country! Thx a few trillion.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Spare me the big tent BS!


34 posted on 06/24/2009 10:35:12 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: rabscuttle385

No. Inclusion is not the key. Persuading people you are right is the key. That means that philosophical clarity and the courage of your convictions are key. No one was ever persuaded by someone who could not firmly and clearly and forthrightly articulate why he was right.

If you are a “moderate”, if you don’t believe in your principles enough to defend them and advance them, then you are not going to win many battles. Broadening your tent to include more people who don’t know what they believe or why they believe it isn’t going to gain you anything. You broaden your tent by convincing people.


35 posted on 06/24/2009 10:36:43 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

“No. Inclusion is not the key. Persuading people you are right is the key.”

Worth repeating!


36 posted on 06/24/2009 10:49:42 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: rabscuttle385

They are about to lose my support. They must still figure I don’t have any other place to go.


37 posted on 06/24/2009 11:05:08 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: unkus
Leadership is not pandering to the people. It’s about being principled and getting people to see that you are right. Right, and that’s why the RINO’s won’t gain any ground. We’re in for CHAOS . Things are falling apart and they’re grasping at threads.

You are right.

38 posted on 06/25/2009 12:44:14 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: Kozak

“Unless they have a Big Idea to act as a tent pole they got nothing. Being the “me too only slower” Socialist party is not going to cut it”

Agree, but if it is to be a big tent it will need more than one pole. Should be a center pole of security and two end poles of personal and economic freedom. The tent should be big enough for all who seek refuge.


39 posted on 06/25/2009 12:49:33 AM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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To: rockinqsranch

I do believe W rode into the White House on big donations from big donors, which was right after the Democrats had had two terms in office.


40 posted on 06/25/2009 12:53:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rabscuttle385
Haley had better tack away from this liberal movement in the repubic party. He is my governor but that buys him nothing. I have had worries about him lately... he and Cochran seem to be becoming ted kennedy.

LLS

41 posted on 06/25/2009 4:19:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
He is my governor but danged if he doesn’t look and sound like a dim in the making. He lost me when he went 100% all out for Eminent Domain rights for the greedy state gooberment. Cochran has turned to the Darkside along with him.

LLS

42 posted on 06/25/2009 4:25:35 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I withdrew from the repubic party... I slam the phone in their ears when they call... right after I tell them why... and my wallet... thin as it is these days... is closed to them. I support only Conservative candidates and only by direct means. I tell them that the party can no longer be trusted... that they are morphing into hussein and company... they will get no help from me.

LLS

43 posted on 06/25/2009 4:28:26 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: Enoughofthissocialism

Palin appeals to conservatives... Perhaps 30% of the total populace. She does NOT get lib votes, and does NOT get many indie votes... She needs the indies to even entertain a shot at a Presidency... She’ll never compete seriously... Great person, great policies, great leader... No shot at POTUS


44 posted on 06/25/2009 4:52:10 AM PDT by NYC Republican (This Too Shall Pass- in 8 years.. how much destruction will they create?)
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To: Steelfish

“The term “inclusive” is code for Republican light with a bid tent for gays, lesbians, transgenders, amnesty for illegal. Mr. Barbour go pound sand, we just lost an election with a big tent candidate”

That’s exactly what the Republican Party does NOT need. It was rugged individualism that put it in power last time and that’s what the American people are looking for.


45 posted on 06/25/2009 6:23:23 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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To: LibLieSlayer

some are giving the impression that those Eminent Domain rules expire at some point and then there will be stronger protection ... is that not the case?


46 posted on 06/25/2009 7:20:44 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: pissant
How about being a constitutionalist and conservative party, like your platform says you are SUPPOSED to be.

You've got that right. I have no objection to a big tent party......assuming that it means what it did when Reagan said it - the moderates and conservative Democrats are welcome to join us when they come around to our way of thinking. We do not give up our principals just to increase numbers.

47 posted on 06/25/2009 9:01:17 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: NYC Republican

Yeah, Sarah’s got no chance. That’s why nobody turns out to see her. LOL! Just like Ronald Reagan. Big loser in the presidential race. (...if you ighnore that they were the biggest landslides in American history.)

Thanks for the New York point of view. Sooooo in touch with REAL America.

Next time: thanks but no thanks.


48 posted on 06/25/2009 3:50:06 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism (Virtue is its own reward and vice is its own punishment .)
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To: WKB

Mississippy Guv bump!


49 posted on 06/25/2009 9:32:25 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Faster, Please!)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Well, I must say he has that White, Pudgy-Country Club- Middle Age look down pat. I would opt for an exotic: Daniel Henney or Denis O’Neil to take center stage./Just Asking - seoul62......


50 posted on 06/25/2009 9:44:10 PM PDT by seoul62
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