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For Republicans, a Long Winter Gets Longer
Washington Post ^ | 6/25/09 | Dan Balz

Posted on 06/25/2009 6:58:12 AM PDT by steve-b

Mark Sanford's summer adventure to Argentina -- no, he was not hiking the Appalachian Trail, as his aides incorrectly told reporters -- is now a full-fledged personal and family embarrassment, a story of infidelity followed by a public confession of the kind that has become all too familiar from political leaders.

But Sanford's story is more than personal. For a Republican Party down on its luck, the governor's disappearance and subsequent rambling apology to his wife, his family, his close friends and all the people of South Carolina draw more unwelcome publicity to a party that needs but cannot seem to get any good news.

Coming a week after Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) admitted to an extramarital affair, the scandal will impact the Republicans in several ways. First, it further damages the GOP brand, potentially driving away more voters or at least making it more difficult to win back some of those who abandoned the party in the past two elections. Second, it could disillusion social and religious conservatives -- a critically important part of the Republican coalition -- who may now wonder whether those who share the Republican label truly share their values. Third, the Sanford saga removes one more new-generation GOP leader from the field of prospective 2012 candidates, adding to doubts about the strength of the party's bench....

Some political strategists question how Republicans can get traction when two pillars of their message -- family values and fiscal rectitude -- have been undermined by errant politicians' transgressions, and by the collective failure of GOP leaders to control spending when they held the White House and Congress.

"If Republicans talk about family values, people will roll their eyes," said Matthew Dowd, a onetime adviser to President George W. Bush....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; familyvalues; socialconservatism

1 posted on 06/25/2009 6:58:13 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b

To all GOP leaders, if you want to cheat join the other side.


2 posted on 06/25/2009 6:59:25 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is an illegal alien)
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To: bmwcyle

I agree 100%! If you are in office, then affairs are over. If you want to have an affair, RESIGN. I could care less what they do in their private lives but Sanford opened up the Republicans to snarky articles like this from the WP rag.


3 posted on 06/25/2009 7:02:09 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin for OK Governor/Coburn for Senate 2010 ! Mark Rubio for FL Senate 2010!)
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To: bmwcyle

At least this guy came clean right away! Everyone, esp. the media, seems to forget the transgressions of Clinton.

Listening to Beck, the last caller had a great point: who gives a rip about his private life? This guy is a good legislator, but he’s a hypocrite. When it comes to politicians, who isn’t? Let the people kick him out at the ballot box. I wouldn’t care if he was my gov. There are worse transgressions!


4 posted on 06/25/2009 7:02:43 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: steve-b

” ... a story of infidelity followed by a public confession of the kind that has become all too familiar from political leaders. “

Please. There are no leaders in American politics. They are simply egotistical opportunists.

I may be cynical, but it doesn’t mean I’m wrong.


5 posted on 06/25/2009 7:03:32 AM PDT by brownsfan (The public schools and the SRM, they are killing us.)
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To: bmwcyle

These were hits by the Dems. Sanford stood up to O and they outed him. Ensign is more popular than Hairy Reid and he got hit. This is how O and the Dems will stay in power. Stupid Repubs. We have gay RINOs or conservative who are skirt chasers. What a double standard.


7 posted on 06/25/2009 7:03:43 AM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott ABC News and their parent company The Walt Disney Company)
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To: steve-b
The GOP pretty much created a very high standard for personal conduct for itself when it chose to pursue Bill Clinton for lying about "extracurricular activities" in his personal life. I would figure someone like Gov. Sanford would have understood this.

Ugh. He needs to go. We can't stand by someone like this when we asked for (and got) Eliot Spitzer's political head.

8 posted on 06/25/2009 7:05:17 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
The GOP pretty much created a very high standard for personal conduct for itself when it chose to pursue Bill Clinton for lying about "extracurricular activities" in his personal life.

Not exactly; he used his public office to "pursue" his personal infidelities.

But your point is taken. Nobody who goes effing around ought to be running any branch of gov't.

9 posted on 06/25/2009 7:10:40 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: bmwcyle

Discovering the occasional hypocrit who belongs to a party whose members cherish traditional values is better than belonging to a party whose core membership ridicules, despises, and tries to outlaw traditional values.


10 posted on 06/25/2009 7:12:29 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: steve-b

Why do we let Democrats pick our leaders?


11 posted on 06/25/2009 7:12:58 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The Democrats have returned to their game of supporting totalitarian regimes. Now they're muslim.)
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To: steve-b

Gov. Mark Sanford’s affair is between him and his family. His leaving the State House in South Carolina for a tryst in Argentina is between him and the people of his state. He has shown very poor judgement. He chose his private parts over his duty as governor.


12 posted on 06/25/2009 7:13:13 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: steve-b

I am certainly glad this came out now. I would have hated to see this come out after Sanford had been chosen as the republican standard bearer.


13 posted on 06/25/2009 7:14:28 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: steve-b

Bullcrap! If they were on the other side it would be called a private matter and no apologies, no resignations. He did something wrong but not a felony like many of the democrat criminals.

High-minded morality in non-criminal cases tears down those in the republican party. The democrat party and it’s media propagandists are all using this as usual to tar the party and all conservatives.

The tiny little brains in the public latch on to the sensationalized prattle of the left along with the whole-hearted support of the GOP and each time the GOP goes along with the dems it tears down the party and chances for conservatives even more.

The high moral ground means nothing to the democrats and means that with every flawed but non-criminal act that comes up for a conservative we are one step closer to total control by the party of traitors.


14 posted on 06/25/2009 7:16:43 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: steve-b
Democrat Republican
There is not a dime's worth of difference between them any more.
Democrats run on situational values and feel good fiscal policy, then when elected, keep their existing floozy or two and vote for every feel good social policy and tax increase comes along.
Republicans run on family values and fiscal responsibility, then when elected find themselves a floozy or two and vote for every feel good social program and tax increase that comes down the pike.
Damn but we need to change this whole party thing. Washington warned of the problems with “political factions” and once again he has been proven right.
Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians if you want my vote all you have to do is BE HONEST. Tell the truth, good, bad or indifferent honesty works for me.
15 posted on 06/25/2009 7:16:54 AM PDT by Tupelo
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To: rarestia

if the reports are right, he did not come clean “right away”...he had been doing it for 8 years.

Now...I think his politics of conservatism are right on.

He needs to heal his marriage, though.


16 posted on 06/25/2009 7:17:50 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Frantzie; rarestia

If you lower standards, you will get low standard people. In a Republic you sink with the low life leaders. Look around you now. We are sinking fast.


17 posted on 06/25/2009 7:21:13 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is an illegal alien)
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To: steve-b

I think along with all the lawyers we should kill all the politicians.


18 posted on 06/25/2009 7:23:09 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: steve-b

Better now than a few years from now when Sanford might be considered the GOP nominee. This story will be dead in a week.


19 posted on 06/25/2009 7:23:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: steve-b
Nobody seems to remember the 1992 Democrat primary. There was no clear cut leader until there were rumors of infidelity by Clinton. WJ went on national tv and confessed, Hillary said it was alright with her and his popularity shot way up. The women fell for the big hair and the men thought, “This fellow knows what he is doing. He's my type of guy.”
20 posted on 06/25/2009 7:25:17 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: steve-b

So what’s a Dan Balz, and why should anyone care what it says?


21 posted on 06/25/2009 7:26:54 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (This message so far uneventfully brought to you by, Windows 7 Beta)
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To: Frantzie

Ensign’s and Sanford’s predicaments have nothing whatsoever to do with Obama and Harry Reid. Their behavior is their own making, the WH and DNC had nothing to do with it. With unemployment continuing to rise despite the WH’s promotion of “green shoots,” and the coming battles over public health care, cap and tax and Obambi’s massive tax increases, I believe these individuals’ actions will be quickly forgotten. Remember what James Carville said in 1992, “It’s the economy, stupid.”


22 posted on 06/25/2009 7:29:41 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and help stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: steve-b

THIS JUST IN:

“Heterosexual scandal engulfs leading GOP Governor.”

OMG. I mean series - it’s already old news, the way leftwingers are overplaying the story. He’s famous now.

This is, in today’s America, hardly a bump in the Governor’s presidential campaign. In fact, it’s publicity.

Now. Can we please call off the circular firing squad?

Thanks so much. :)


23 posted on 06/25/2009 7:30:51 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (This message so far uneventfully brought to you by, Windows 7 Beta)
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To: Western Phil

Good point, Rosalyn Carter said Reagan made people feel good about their prejudices; Clinton made people feel fine with their lusts.


24 posted on 06/25/2009 7:31:43 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: bmwcyle
If you lower standards, you will get low standard people. In a Republic you sink with the low life leaders. Look around you now. We are sinking fast.

I get that, and I am not defending his behavior. I'm more frazzled that the MSM is making this into a center-ring show. I despise the MSM and this administration. How quick they are to forget about all of the Democrap transgressions, but they're the first ones to point out malfeasance on the side of the Pubbies. DC could drift off the contintenal shelf for all I care.

25 posted on 06/25/2009 7:32:14 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: rarestia

They will put the spot light on us. Our job is to keep it off. They will then make up lies about us. That will be their downfall not ours.


26 posted on 06/25/2009 7:34:54 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is an illegal alien)
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To: Frantzie

...These were hits by the Dems...

Excuse me. Ensign and Sanford are the adulterers. The Dems took political advantage of it. No adultery, no political hit on adultery. Don’t give your political opponents any additional excuse to whack you on family values!


27 posted on 06/25/2009 7:35:37 AM PDT by mono
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To: pnh102

Clinton lied under ‘oath’ and tried to get others to do so.


28 posted on 06/25/2009 7:43:26 AM PDT by katykelly
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To: Frantzie
Given the information on the Argentinian lover, the timing and personal emails being “leaked by unidentified Staffer”, this whole thing is looking like a setup. What better way than to plant a hot Latin lover?

This is right out of Moscow playbook! And who better to use Moscow tactics than mccain’s good friends on the other side of the aisle? Consider the women just showed up (from Argentina of all places) and enticed an up and coming conservative into some very stupid situations and finally getting Sanford to do political hary-cary by running after the lover in Argentina, followed by “inside evidence mysteriously showing up (personal emails)” to insure the coup de gras. Classic communist political destruction method.

Not excusing Sanford one bit, but who among us would not have some susceptibility to similar situation?

29 posted on 06/25/2009 7:45:15 AM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember the Alamo Tea Party - CHENEY-PALIN 2012)
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To: steve-b
Have you noticed how nothing - NOTHING, no matter how foul, disgusting or just plain stupid - is ever said to "damage the Democrat brand"?

When you are a Democrat, which is to say someone held to no standard of behavior and judged only by your promises, anything goes: bribe money stuffed in the fridge, brothels run out of your condo, mysterious meetings with mob figures, dead blondes in Oldsmobiles, live boys in Bangkok.

Uh-uh. Doesn't matter, even if the news media deign to report it, which they will do their level best not to, except to cry how Republicans are trying to "politicize" an issue that they never quite get around to explaining, except perhaps somewhere on page C45, directly beneath the classifieds and the incontinence advertisements.

30 posted on 06/25/2009 7:48:12 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: bmwcyle

Soon we will be hearing from Meghan about our right wing evil in passing judgement on adulters in the GOP.

The Rinos are mad and hate conservatives because they hold GOPers to a standard higher than the humanist ideal of service to self. They want a free ride like Clinton...


31 posted on 06/25/2009 7:48:27 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
I would rather die on the hill of morals than sink to the lows of DEMS. In other works, I rather serve in heaven than rule in hell (as per Milton's question).
32 posted on 06/25/2009 7:53:06 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is an illegal alien)
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To: steve-b

Yea, the GOP is pretty much tossing whatever moral authority it once had into the garbage. They’re now Democrap Lite v2.0


33 posted on 06/25/2009 7:54:34 AM PDT by FreedomFerret
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

>This story will be dead in a week.<

Just in time to provide the Democrats very effective cover to get the Cap and Trade voted in. Then, they’ll use this as cover to advance their plans for nationalized health care.


34 posted on 06/25/2009 7:56:49 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Remind me about the Bangkok thing.


35 posted on 06/25/2009 8:15:45 AM PDT by drubyfive
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To: steve-b

The GOP leadership has lost its mind. The second biggest mistake was hiring the MSM as its shrink (the biggest mistake was abandoning academia, the media, and other cultural bodies to the totalitarians).

First, its shrink persuaded it to mimic the shrink’s star patient. When the GOP was later found naked, belligerent, drunk, and deep in debt, the shrink blamed these issues on the GOP straying from prescription. “Be more like Charlie Crist, Lindsey Graham, Rudy Giuliani, and John McCain,” said the shrink. “These fine specimens win elections the way my star patient wins elections.”

Nevermind that the GOP nominated its most “moderate” candidate in history (John McCain) and was entirely eviscerated - across a score of erstwhile ‘safe’ states to boot (all while the media linked McCain rightfully to Bush, but then in its post analysis painted Bush as the arch-conservative far-right GOP poster boy for why the GOP is failing - apparently recalling nothing of the last 8 years, and only the campaign promises all but entirely abandoned after being made in 1999-2000).

Nevermind also that the various GOP party heads (Steele et al) are so moderate milquetoast that Arnold Schwarzenegger looks right-wing by comparison

Our reward for following Doctor’s orders? Party ID for the GOP has plummeted to record lows while those identifying as independents (myself included) have reached a historical high water mark. Neglect further that 60%+ of the US voting population considers itself “conservative”. Pay heed only to the linguistic drift afforded by our retreat from intellectual cultural bodies, which spoon feeds to us the fiction that “independent” is synonymous with “moderate”.

Nope, the shrink says the GOP would be doing MUCH better if it excised those pesky right-wing elements from the visible “support apparatus” - that the GOP brand is suffering only because Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc. refuse to tow the line that the currently fashionable big-government fascism is OK because there aren’t any large ovens being built. Scary religious voters are to blame for pushing against gay marriage and abortion (I’m not much for fighting the former front, but admit that majorities of the country are against both).

The good doctor tells us not to confuse ourselves with inconvenient numbers. Going the “evidence based” route apparently means reacting to the fictional representation of GOP characters on SNL, the supposed analysis of glorified sit-down yuk-yuk routines hosted by Comedy Central, and anecdotal sound-bytes from Dr. MSM colleagues all but in the full employ of Star Patient.

The shrink’s service offered to the GOP is not therapy. It is assisted suicide.


36 posted on 06/25/2009 8:28:02 AM PDT by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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To: dusttoyou

Yup. He fell into a honey trap. Sanford was refusing TARP money and standing up - fool should have known they would set him up.

We will probably see more Repubs go down. The Dems found a home run with that stupid gay Congressman texting pages. They grabbed Congress because of that clown.


37 posted on 06/25/2009 8:29:04 AM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott ABC News and their parent company The Walt Disney Company)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Heal his marriage and he has been at it for 8 years? A trip to the divorce court will be the only way to heal that marriage.


38 posted on 06/25/2009 8:33:25 AM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott ABC News and their parent company The Walt Disney Company)
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To: Frantzie
The enemy is so insidiously clever that they can set up these traps eight years in advance!
39 posted on 06/25/2009 8:35:24 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b

It is frustrating how many of our wounds are self-inflicted.


40 posted on 06/25/2009 9:08:31 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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