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Right-Wing Sedition
Histroy News Network ^ | 6-15-09 | Carol V. Hamilton

Posted on 06/26/2009 10:06:28 AM PDT by presidio9

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In 1798, during the Quasi-war with France, Congress, with President John Adams’s support, passed the Sedition Act. Outraged by attacks on her husband, Abigail Adams supported the act, which was opposed by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, among others. “Let us not establish a tyranny,” wrote an alarmed Alexander Hamilton to an ally in Congress. Indeed, the Sedition Act, an obvious violation of the First Amendment, made a permanent blot on Adams’s presidency. Here is part of its text:

“If any person shall write, print, utter or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or publishing, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or aid in its writing, printing, uttering, or publishing any false, scandalous, and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States, or the President of the United States, with intent to defame the said government, or either house of the said Congress, or the said President, or to bring them, or either of them, into contempt and disrepute; or to excite against them, or either or any of them, the hatred of the good people of the United States or to stir up sedition within the United States…shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars and by imprisonment not exceeding two years” (italics added).

False, scandalous, malicious, defamatory, exciting hatred, stirring up sedition…Why, it’s like a run-of-the-mill report on Fox News!

When Jefferson became president, he too found the attacks on his presidency intolerable and prosecuted two Federalist journalists . One of them was defended in court by Alexander Hamilton.

These days it’s hard not to sympathize with Abigail Adams. She was worried about the safety of her husband. A frightened Congress feared that the newly formed country would erupt into civil war. Inflammatory rhetoric, ad-hominem attacks, demagoguery … these are both tests of free speech and violations of its intent.

It’s ironic, although not surprising, that blowhards like Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and Glen Beck are spouting sedition these days. Even members of Congress, who should know better, are engaging in fear-mongering.

When one of their own was president, the Right had nothing but awe for the highest office in the land and the man who held it. Dissent, however thoughtful and earnest, seemed to them wildly unpatriotic. Ann Coulter wrote a “book” about liberal dissent and called it Treason. Who is treasonous now?

Right-wing rumors have it that Obama is not an American citizen, that he’s going to abolish the second amendment (or at least seize all guns) and that attempts to rescue American business from bankruptcy are really “socialism,” as is the plan to give America citizens what other wealthy, civilized countries have—a health care system that puts people before profits.

And as a result of this hysterical climate, armed lunatics, in a frenzy of paranoia, are attacking and killing law-abiding Americans. How long before there is an assassination attempt on a high public figure? How long until another Timothy McVeigh blows up a government building with a day care center?

McVeigh’s atrocity, like the atrocity of 9/11, killed people regardless of their political allegiances. Like army bureaucrats, like Émile Henry, the anarchist who in 1894 threw a bomb into a Paris nightclub, violent zealots consider the deaths of innocents “collateral damage.”

The Founders of this country set up our system of government so that demagoguery could be defused before it exploded. As students of Roman history, they worried about potential Caesars; as witnesses to the French Revolution, they worried about enraged mobs directed by icy zealots like Robespierre.

The average 18th-century Frenchman had serious grievances. The rich paid no taxes, so workers, peasants, and shopkeepers had to supply the luxuries and privileges of an extravagant monarchy and aristocracy. Compared to pre-revolutionary France, George III’s England was a paradise of individual liberties, legal rights, and parliamentary representation.

What’s driving our current hysteria? Nothing that you would find in that French revolutionary document, “The Rights of Man.” Instead, when a sobbing Glenn Beck says that he fears for his country, he means that he’s horrified that we have a black president. “They” are taking over.

Never mind that our president was reared by his white mother and grandparents, that his white ancestors also came to this country as humble immigrants, that he’s brilliant and eloquent, that he has studied and taught the Constitution, that the rest of the world admires him, and that our international reputation was greatly enhanced by his election.

The Limbaugh/Fox News rhetoric shows the Southern strategy operating on the national level. Hard-working, provincial white folks, those historically in competition with blacks for jobs, are being incited by wealthy tax-evaders into an orgy of racist fear, exacerbated by high unemployment and globalization. Although they didn’t object when wily Republicans strategically placed African-Americans in high offices, they’re terrified by President Obama.

When I was a child watching debates and conventions with my parents, there were creatures known as “moderate Republicans.” They seemed to have little in common with Goldwater or Nixon, who then represented the extreme right of the party.

Are there any statesmanlike conservatives out there who respect the rule of law and the offices of high elected officials, who fear assassination attempts and a lynch-mob mentality? If so, they urgently need to speak out. If they do not, they will be complicit in whatever violence this seditious rhetoric continues to inspire.


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Ms. Hamilton has a Ph.D. in English from Berkeley. Her website: http://www.carolvanderveerhamilton.com
1 posted on 06/26/2009 10:06:28 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Where’s the barf alert on this crock of commie caca?


2 posted on 06/26/2009 10:08:30 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: presidio9

Berkeley? That explains it. This load of regurgitated libspeak FAILS. She needs to go back to third grade.


3 posted on 06/26/2009 10:09:42 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: bassmaner

lmao


4 posted on 06/26/2009 10:09:55 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: presidio9
Are there any statesmanlike conservatives out there who respect the rule of law and the offices of high elected officials

Nope. Just us knuckle-draggers.

Change is coming.

5 posted on 06/26/2009 10:10:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pas d'ennmis a droit)
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To: presidio9
Ms. Hamilton has a Ph.D. in English from Berkeley

Gee, what a shock...
6 posted on 06/26/2009 10:10:50 AM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: presidio9

Now is this lady a crap sandwhich?


7 posted on 06/26/2009 10:12:19 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Sarah Palin 2012 (Who else in the GOP is man enough?))
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To: presidio9

Carol Hamilton, left-wing blowhard.


8 posted on 06/26/2009 10:12:38 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Jim Noble

I respect Obama as much as he respects America: Zero. also LOL@the keywords.


10 posted on 06/26/2009 10:13:04 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: presidio9
Right-wing rumors have it that Obama is not an American citizen,
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Mr. Obama, it is easy to disprove these rumors. It could be done in a day or two. Simply release your birth certificate, passport records, school admission forms, adoption records, and repatriation information. Total cost: $100 to $200?

Instead,...We see teams of expensive lawyers around the country doing everything possible to frustrate answering a simple question: “Are you a natural born citizen?”

Ah...But, I am encouraged. Whereas in the past year your status as a natural born citizen has been **totally** ignored...Hey! Today the question is addressed by Carol V. Hamilton even if in a mocking manner. That's progress.

11 posted on 06/26/2009 10:13:21 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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Ms. Hamilton has a Ph.D. in English from Berkeley.
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Is this essay and example of what passes for graduate level education at Berkeley? Unbelievable.

The errors in logic are too numerous and too tedious to count.

12 posted on 06/26/2009 10:16:53 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: presidio9
Ms. Hamilton has a Ph.D. in English from Berkeley.

Thank you: that explains a great deal. There is a species of human idiocy, distinct from the pedestrian variety, that calls upon the whole of human knowledge and experience and yet manages to miss the point of any of it.

13 posted on 06/26/2009 10:17:04 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: presidio9

If the activities of Tom Hayden, Jane Fonda, Bill Ayers, Berardine Dorhn, Cora Weiss, etc., etc., failed to qualify as sedition, it’s difficult to take seriously this sort of leftist whining over conservative criticism of their Obamagod.


14 posted on 06/26/2009 10:17:43 AM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: presidio9

Hilarious! ROTFL!


15 posted on 06/26/2009 10:18:11 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: presidio9
Instead, when a sobbing Glenn Beck says that he fears for his country, he means that he’s horrified that we have a black president. “They” are taking over.

I can't speak for what Mr. Beck was thinking, but I'd loathe Obama just as much if his name was Barry O'Reilly and he was 100% white. Sure, there are some racist morons who dislike him for the color of his skin, but such views are so outside the mainstream of conservative objections to Obama as to be not even worth discussing.

16 posted on 06/26/2009 10:19:19 AM PDT by Blackacre
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To: presidio9
Instead, when a sobbing Glenn Beck says that he fears for his country, he means that he’s horrified that we have a black president.

The mother of all strawmen. She has utterly NOTHING to back this up.

17 posted on 06/26/2009 10:19:40 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: presidio9
Hard-working, provincial white folks, those historically in competition with blacks for jobs, are being incited by wealthy tax-evaders

Funny, most of the wealthy tax evaders I've heard about recently were well-connected Dems being vetted for positions in the Obama Administration.

It is truly stunning that anyone could write this completely hypocritical drivel.

18 posted on 06/26/2009 10:21:15 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: presidio9
Right-wing rumors have it that Obama is not an American citizen,

I happen to think that Obama is probably a natural-born US citizen. "Probably" But I don't know for sure, and neither does this author.

Never mind that our president was reared by his white mother and grandparents, that his white ancestors also came to this country as humble immigrants, that he’s brilliant and eloquent, that he has studied and taught the Constitution, that the rest of the world admires him, and that our international reputation was greatly enhanced by his election.

I guess she's seen Obama's SAT Scores? His undergrad college transcripts? Perhaps the selection process by which law-student Obama became editor of the "Harvard Law Review"? To my knowledge, nobody has seen this stuff either, so this is just an assertion on the part of this "Ph.D." And she likely hasn't interviewed any foreign diplomats or heads-of-state to gauge their "admiration" for BHO.

Pretty sloppy argument if you ask me.

19 posted on 06/26/2009 10:27:39 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: presidio9
President Nixon was a far-right conservative?! Hahahaha! The man who brought us affirmative action, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Wage & Price Controls? That Nixon?! ROTFLMAO!! BTW, the man who attacked the Holocaust Museum was a pagan truther, who had the National Review (HQ of neoconservatism) on his hit list. And Timothy McVeigh was an anti-Semitic white supremacist, not a conservative, Lady! And the man who shot Dr. Tiller was a mental patient who should have been institutionalized. But why stick to facts when one can impugn conservatives with lies?
20 posted on 06/26/2009 10:30:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In memory of my father, Gunnery Sgt., USMC, WWII and Korea, 1925-2002)
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To: presidio9

If you ever needed proff that the left was crazy, here it is! They think their lies for the past 9 years were “thoughtful” while just asking questions by the right is sedition? Truely delusional!


21 posted on 06/26/2009 10:34:47 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: presidio9

I was wondering where the O’Reilly Sedition chant was coming from. I just heard it yesterday....from a lefty Tirade.

They really believe this stuff....Free Speech be damned.


22 posted on 06/26/2009 10:38:45 AM PDT by 4Speed
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To: dirtboy

She doesn’t have to.

We’ve trained the left to understand that when they make the accusation of “racism”, that we cease to criticize their policies and behavior.

Time to untrain them.


23 posted on 06/26/2009 10:38:45 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: presidio9
Are there any statesmanlike conservatives out there who respect the rule of law and the offices of high elected officials, who fear assassination attempts and a lynch-mob mentality? If so, they urgently need to speak out. If they do not, they will be complicit in whatever violence this seditious rhetoric continues to inspire.

I denounce all vigilantism.

Barack Obama associated with a man who gave support to the North Vietnamese military while our nation was at war with Vietnam. Bill Ayers also engaged in domestic acts of terrorism including bombings and organizing riots. He engaged in open sedition (which is sometimes criminalized but not always) but he also engaged in treason which is defined in our Constitution and has not been repealed.

Did this loon sign the petition of academics who support Bill Ayers? Thousands did.

24 posted on 06/26/2009 10:39:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: presidio9

If fox news is in the bag for the republicans, why did they spend so much time talking about micheal jackson, when they should have been talking about cap and fn-trade stupidity.....


25 posted on 06/26/2009 10:39:16 AM PDT by grounhog (Ss grounhog)
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To: chris_bdba

Keep in mind - all these accusations of sedition and supposed threats of violent rebellion are all just an attempt to justify what the left, historically, has always done, and wants to do -

exterminate those with differing ideological views.


26 posted on 06/26/2009 10:40:02 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: presidio9
When one of their own was president, the Right had nothing but awe for the highest office in the land and the man who held it. Dissent, however thoughtful and earnest, seemed to them wildly unpatriotic. Ann Coulter wrote a “book” about liberal dissent and called it Treason. Who is treasonous now?

As I recall, the traitors betrayed this country by serving the Communist states of the USSR providing material support, influence, propaganda, and national secrets to a foreign power that murdered 20 million people.

27 posted on 06/26/2009 10:40:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: presidio9

{Glenn Beck says that he fears for his country, he means that he’s horrified that we have a black president. “They” are taking over.}

I see the author has been talking with ACORN. Back in March, Beck had a representive from ACORN on. The ACORN guy said Beck was scared of Blacks. As a result, Beck threw the Acorn guy off his set.


28 posted on 06/26/2009 10:43:22 AM PDT by DanZanRyu
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To: presidio9
She reveals herself to be a xenophobic bigot...

http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/56156.html
Carol V. Hamilton: Let's Call the Whole Thing Off! 10-21-2008

A stark raving bigot. And she teaches? Really?

Since they don't love us, we should leave them. What was that old slogan they used to like so much? “Better dead than Red.”

California STILL has a law prohibiting Communists from teaching in California schools or preaching sedition against our constitutional form of government.

29 posted on 06/26/2009 10:47:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: presidio9

Article in a nutshell: opposition to Obama = racism


30 posted on 06/26/2009 10:48:14 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: grounhog

Why did NewsCorp’s executives endorse John Kerry, traitor?

Why did Rupert Murdoch donate money to Hillary Clinton’s senate campaign?

Why don’t they give conservatives more air time on tv?

They are to the right of MSNBC and CNN, but that doesn’t make them Conservative.


31 posted on 06/26/2009 10:49:21 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: presidio9
when a sobbing Glenn Beck says that he fears for his country, he means that he’s horrified that we have a black president. “They” are taking over.

Or it could be that Obama is an inexperienced, radical idealogue whose agenda threatens the liberties and cherished institutions of freedom-loving Americans.

32 posted on 06/26/2009 10:50:34 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: presidio9

cvh@uwalumni.com


33 posted on 06/26/2009 10:52:39 AM PDT by listenhillary (90% of our problems could be resolved with a government 10% of the size it is now.)
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To: Oratam

Conservativism is being criminalized.

If you aren’t politically correct, you are a traitor, racist, misogynist, homophobe, xenophobe, greedy, profiteering, neo-con.

She can’t do a lot to purge the historical record that the antiwar movement in the US in 200x was founded and funded by the Communist organizations. She cannot do a lot to purge the historical record that her so called peace protestors called for the death of president bush on their signs, supported the Palestinian war (including the use of terrorists against Jews), and supported the so called “insurgency”.

The side traitors like her supported (some even said that Saddam did a lot of good for Iraq, like supressing terrorism, yet they wouldn’t let us use his techniques) LOST.


34 posted on 06/26/2009 10:54:32 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: presidio9

There is a History.com ad/grahic/link on their website.

Is HNN affiliated with the (so called) History Channel?


35 posted on 06/26/2009 10:57:06 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: windsorknot

Barack Obama (and Billary Clinton and John Fragging Kerry) were all members of the New Left Democrats who rioted in the streets in 1968 and have taken over the Party and the media.

While Barack himself was not in the streets, he is a proxy stooge of Ayers and other antiAmerican radicals.

They were all schooled in resentment of this country and loathing for the traditions.


36 posted on 06/26/2009 10:59:21 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Conservativism is being criminalized.

With the intent of using the power of the state to punish and even execute ideological opponents.

37 posted on 06/26/2009 11:01:00 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: presidio9

There are so many factual errors in this piece of crap that I stopped reading halfway through.

It’s unfortunate she doesn’t spew this sewage in a debate format. It’d be embarassing to be continually proven to be a liar ! But fun !


38 posted on 06/26/2009 11:09:09 AM PDT by jimt
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To: presidio9
Ms. Hamilton has a Ph.D. in English from Berkeley. Her

Pretty clear it wasn't in history.

The Founders of this country set up our system of government so that demagoguery could be defused before it exploded. As students of Roman history, they worried about potential Caesars; as witnesses to the French Revolution, they worried about enraged mobs directed by icy zealots like Robespierre.

39 posted on 06/26/2009 11:09:17 AM PDT by SJackson (G-d da*n America, Jeremiah Wright---Don't tell me words don't matter!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: a fool in paradise

All this author had to do was lump Goldwater and Nixon together into the “right wing” for me to know she is simply uneducated. No way to quickly fix that so far as I know.

“Wage & Price Control” Nixon was a rino leftist, and anyone who doesn’t know that simply doesn’t know history.


40 posted on 06/26/2009 11:13:10 AM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Conservativism is being criminalized.

Spot on!

From this spring's DHS report to the aftermath of the Tiller and Holocaust Museum shootings, liberals are coalescing around the idea that conservatives are dangerous and need to be dealt with.

41 posted on 06/26/2009 11:13:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Tallguy
that the rest of the world admires him

The part of the rest of the world that matters, our enemies, have already idicated that they thin he is weak and therefire they don't respect him.

42 posted on 06/26/2009 11:18:00 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Anyone referring to Nixon as a conservative is a clueless moron.

Conservatives don’t do wage and price controls


43 posted on 06/26/2009 11:27:10 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: MrB; a fool in paradise

Every lib is a commissar keeping his eyes and ears open for any ‘deviation’ from party orthodoxy.


44 posted on 06/26/2009 11:35:12 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: presidio9

Levin said something interesting in his book -

the rest of the world’s leaders don’t consider themselves or their countrymen to be “citizens of the world” - why does the left?

Simple, because they despise America.


45 posted on 06/26/2009 11:37:24 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Neville72
Anyone referring to Nixon as a conservative is a clueless moron.

Conservatives don’t do wage and price controls

Nor do conservatives practice racial favoritism (i.e., affirmative action).

46 posted on 06/26/2009 11:39:08 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: presidio9

“I’m sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we’re Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration.”


47 posted on 06/26/2009 11:43:37 AM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: presidio9

I’ve NEVER known a woman that would put up with a man like Klinton, yet almost 100% of them will lie for him. Is it a brand of sedition for them to attack the laws and traditions of this country as they are.


48 posted on 06/26/2009 11:43:42 AM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much)
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To: presidio9

Dear Carol Hamilton:

Squirm.

Regards,


49 posted on 06/26/2009 11:50:15 AM PDT by matt1234
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To: presidio9

Nothing like projecting to these radical arsehats. Their policies are in the process of ending the Demonrat myth and proving the ‘right wing’ to be RIGHT all along. I love how they get worked into a frenzy and show they cannot tolerate criticism and are everything they accused Bush and Republicans of being.


50 posted on 06/26/2009 11:53:07 AM PDT by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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