Posted on 06/26/2009 11:29:28 AM PDT by TaraP
The Ug99 fungus, called stem rust, could wipe out more than 80% of the world's wheat as it spreads from Africa, scientists fear. The race is on to breed resistant plants before it reaches the U.S.
The spores arrived from Kenya on dried, infected leaves ensconced in layers of envelopes.
Working inside a bio-secure greenhouse outfitted with motion detectors and surveillance cameras, government scientists at the Cereal Disease Laboratory in St. Paul, Minn., suspended the fungal spores in a light mineral oil and sprayed them onto thousands of healthy wheat plants. After two weeks, the stalks were covered with deadly reddish blisters characteristic of the scourge known as Ug99.
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Kenya sends us another present we don’t need.
Afreaka and all it’s spores and spawn are soooooo freakin’ annoooooyin’!
Maybe Revelation `16
Images from Israel’s Exodus are prominent in the bowl judgments. In the days of Moses, God sent plagues upon Egypt that included plagues of boils (Exodus 9:8-12), waters turning to blood (Exodus 7:14-25), and darkness (Exodus 10:21-29).
d. Are the plagues described in this chapter symbolic? Perhaps we can’t envision all that these words mean. However, God’s judgment of this world will not be a symbolic judgment. We can remember that the reality behind a symbol is always more real - and in this case therefore more terrifying - than the symbol itself.
e. On the earth: Those who believe that the Book of Revelation is all fulfilled in history have a hard time with this. In Poole’s commentary, his suggestions on what earth might mean show how difficult it is to make sense of Revelation this way.
· He says earth might mean some parts of the earth
· He says earth might mean the common people
· He says earth might mean The Roman Empire
· He says earth might mean The Roman Catholic clergy
i. The point is clear. If earth doesn’t mean earth, then no one can tell what it means, and God may as well not have written it.
2. (2) The first bowl: foul and loathsome sores.
So the first went and poured out his bowl upon the earth, and a foul and loathsome sore came upon the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image.
a. A foul and loathsome sore came upon the men who had the mark of the beast: Those who worshipped the beast and received his mark are now “marked” by God with loathsome sores.
Kenya huh?
I’m partial to the africanized killer bees.
And this is why ConAgra is developing a flour that contains no wheat. They’ve got us covered.
but “Frankenfood” is evil.just ask an organic hippie.
If birds don’t bring it here, GLOBALIZATION will.
It seems that you’re quoting someone who (himself) is commenting on a part of *someone else’s writing*, and trying to say something about it...
And this is only a *part* of it, too...
In light of that... it’s hard to make sense of what is going on here without the complete link to it...
not worried. on low carb diet anyway.
There is a strong movement afoot to take down the food industry, much like they are doing with tobacco. Food scientists are not pleased.
There are many flours that don’t contain wheat.
This could be an interesting movie. Why does our food seem to make us sick?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqQVll-MP3I
That’s the film that jump-started the dialogue. Add in to illness-producing the obesity factor and it’s pretty damning that food processors are not, at the very least, helping. But we’ve known that for years so the real issues is: will gov’t have to intervene to save us from ourselves (and lower health costs, you know).
I’m no expert on this but I would imagine that this rust can be defeated with preventative treatment, most rusts can, the catch is that you have to spray it before it gets it.
“The point is clear. If earth doesn’t mean earth, then no one can tell what it means, and God may as well not have written it.”
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I am fairly certain that the entire bible was written by men. Some believe that they were inspired by God and some do not but I don’t think God himself wielded a pen for any of it.
Because hypochondriacs are stupid people that believe the stupidity offered in that stupid trailer you linked?
Your video cries about ethylene gas being used to ripen tomatoes. That sounds scary until you realize that tomatoes give off ethylene gas naturally as they ripen.
There's a veil between us and where our food comes from... I was laughing when the narrator dramatically announced this. How utterly stupid.
Multinational corporations are involved in feeding the world he said. Ummm ok. What is it about feeding billions of people he doesn't understand?
He goes on to say that Animals and workers are being abused by these corporations. Do you belong to PETA and a union?
He finishes by claiming that multinational corporations control the food supply. What an idiot. The food industry is still highly fragmented and is ultra competitive.
Stupid people make a stupid film about a subject they don't know jack squat about and then someone posts a link to it on this conservative forum. Nice.
Do you support government intervention telling you what you can eat and in what quantities? Or is personal responsibility something conservatives still advocate?
Geez, you'd think it be a lot safer for us to send the research lab to Kenya. Even if we had to send an Army division to protect the researchers, it'd be cheaper than losing the wheat crop should their daily decontamination routines fail.
This is a problem that people with money can prepare for, wheat is easy to have shipped to your house and under good storage conditions easily lasts for decades and up to centuries.
Between baking, cereals, sprouting, wheat grass juice, beer making, shelf life, and storing in nice neat five gallon buckets wheat is neat and can be passed down to the children and their children.
However, for a country that supposedly has the best inspection, quality, and abundance of food and health care, we sure have a lot of sick people along with a thriving pharmaceutical industry. Throw in the President's buddies who would like to eliminate many of us for the sake of convenience and one has to wonder where this is all headed.
Let me make my position clear: I am in the food processing biz. Food scientists are creating food for the palate, not health. And costs drive the whole process. I don’t want government intervention. People are not going to go back to real food, no matter how ill or overweight they become. But I do think that there is a disconnect between nutrition and food. Let the buyer beware. (Caveat emptor.)
Hm, interesting.
So then, do you garden?
Question is, do we throw out the wheat to spite the chaff?
We need to get to the bottom of what's causing these health issues or the pharmaceutical industry will continue to have it's hold on our lives.
I always use WD-40 to prevent rust.....Dang, is there anything it can't do????
I'm gluten intolerant, but I still consume wheat indirectly as cattle feed. A drop in wheat production turns into a drop in beef production...and pet food. The direct wheat eaters face famine, thus will compensate by eating the stuff that I can eat. Rice.
“What is it about the dollar vote you don’t understand?”
Guess we see where your head it at. “If we make it, they will come”
Everything is NOT always about making money or marketing.
And if your aunt had a beard she'd be your uncle. Who in their right mind thinks government is going to control the food supply? Your anti-capitalist movie trailer made no reference to that. They seem to be endorsing more government control of the food supply. You linked it now explain why you support it.
However, for a country that supposedly has the best inspection, quality, and abundance of food and health care, we sure have a lot of sick people along with a thriving pharmaceutical industry.
And people are living longer healthier lives today than at any other time in history. The leftists of the world won't be happy until we're living in pre-industrial villages again. Why you want to demonize industry, especially American industry where more than 90% of new drugs are discovered, and help the socialists, communists and Marxists in their endeavor is a mystery.
Throw in the President's buddies who would like to eliminate many of us for the sake of convenience and one has to wonder where this is all headed
Your anti-capitalist viewpoint is a part of the very problem you identify. But this has nothing to do at all with the link you supplied decrying the use of ethylene gas to ripen tomatoes (ROFL!) or whining about big companies feeding billions of people or the crying about big bad capitalists abusing animals and workers. Maybe they should unite and lose their chains, eh comrade?
I linked to it because it was relevant to the thread not, because I agreed with any of it. I haven't seen the entire movie.
Your *assuming* tells me you're looking for confrontation. Maybe your *make a buck at any cost* globalist buddies will fight with you. LOL!
Then there's no reason for your misguided opinions.
Food scientists are creating food for the palate, not health.
They do both. I've found that people who say such things really don't know much about foods or nutrition.
People are not going to go back to real food, no matter how ill or overweight they become
Real food? Good grief, that's just silly. You're complaint is with the amount of calories people consume vs. the amount of calories they burn. Everything else is just a distraction. You want to attack American industry for a problem that belongs with the individual. You've apparently forgotten the concept of personal responsibility in favor of the leftists meme that someone else is always to blame. It's the culture of victimhood and it is focused on blaming and destroying American businesses.
But I do think that there is a disconnect between nutrition and food.
Food and nutrition cannot be disconnected. What in the world are you saying?
Let the buyer beware. (Caveat emptor.)
Beware of what? That food today is plentiful and for the most part tastes pretty darn good so if you don't exercise personal control you'll eat more than you burn and get fat?
I hope you're near retirement because if your attitude is commonplace in the industry then the solutions you see as effective will guarantee you'll be looking for work soon.
Spoken like a true anti-capitalist. I recall Obama saying the same thing recently. Try living in an economy not based on making a profit. The only alternative is being forced to produce because it's your duty to the state. What kind of economic system does that sound like to you?
No drugs are discovered by countries that restrict the profit of pharma companies. I don't doubt that if your desired world existed you'd be whining about the fact that there are no drugs to treat whatever affliction you're suffering from and oblivious as to why that is.
You stated, “What about the dollar vote don’t you understand”
Obviously that’s all that is important to your equation.
That’s how drug dealers think.
Maybe you could point out something, anything, in that piece of propaganda that is relevant to the thread. You imply the pharmaceutical industry is making us sick and rail on the profit motive then, unbelievably, you whine about confrontation when someone on a conservative forum points out your anti-capitalism. You can either defend what you've written or run away while trying to deflect your obvious leftist identity by bringing up globalism -- whatever that means to you.
Free people freely choosing how to spend their money on legal products and services vs. your view of government restricting free enterprise, limiting consumer choice and a belief that all big business is evil.
When given the choice between Marxism and capitalism, I'll choose the latter every time. You?
If we can't discuss both sides of the argument, then how is the thread even relevant?
The friggin pharmaceutical industry has billions of people hooked on it drugs, like it or not. I make the argument that, because we're eating a bunch of crap that IS making us sick, the drug industry is making a killing giving us drugs (and making us broke) to offset the effects of eating crap. (and a number of other aliments)
Does that sound like the kind of society you want to live in?
Sorry about the *idiot* thing. Got carried away>
He's a business owner. That means you can't call him on his anti-business idiocy. Happy Friday!
If you could prove any of your claims about the pharmaceutical industry you would. But you don't. If you could prove that we're eating a bunch of crap that's making us sick you would. But you don't. The reason is because you don't know the first thing about the pharmaceutical industry, the research that supports it, nor do you know anything about food, nutrition, chemistry, physiology and so on. Because of this you're left to rant mindlessly about things you feel rather than about things you know. In your emotion driven debate you end up linking to Michael Moore type propaganda in a lame attempt to support your position, such as it is, and then you become defensive and hostile when someone points out the many inconsistencies of your supposed conservatism.
If and when you get some facts about the topic of pharmaceuticals, foods and food ingredients, I would be happy to debate you. Of course, if you had any facts about these subjects you wouldn't be here ranting incoherently about them in the first place.
I think we now know why he argues so emotionally for government protection. He must need it to compete. It all makes sense now.
Happy Friday as well. I'm heading to Siesta in a few minutes to have dinner at the Salty Dog. Maybe I can talk them into karaoke at Cap'n Curt's. Maybe we'll just stumble across the street to The Deck....
Something tells me I'll be thankful for big pharma in the morning.
Like Michael Moore?
Some folks have broken out in such sores even now . . . evidently from something inherent about the implanted chip.
Thx.
Wheat is generally too expensive for beef production. Corn is the major grain used instead.
See my tagline, it's been true for more than 50 years.
Good points, imho.
Thanks for the link.
Quite a trailer. When’s the movie coming out?
Sounded true in light of what I’ve read over the years.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
. . . . remember . . .
“We’re from the gummint . . . we’re here to help!”
The oligarchy in charge of all such
is the same group
determined to forcefully murder more than 6 billion people to reduce the world population to 200 million.
Looking to them to help is like a little chick looking to a hungry rabid fox for help.
So . . .
Are Ted Turner, Scuba Teddy, Puhlousey, Reeedy, Shrillery, OThuga et al your champions?
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