Skip to comments.WHERE IS THE COPY OF THE CAP AND TRADE BILL? (300 PAGES MISSING: RELEASED LAST MIN. BY WAXMAN)
Posted on 06/26/2009 1:16:36 PM PDT by lt.americaEdited on 06/26/2009 2:20:07 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Unreal. Congressman Barton pointing out that current bill is missing 300 pages and he is asking if they can actually vote on a bill that is not present.
Mod update, see reply #7.
Man, talk about the Mafia being crooks...
I’ve never seen anything like this.
Our government in action.
Pitiful and disgraceful.
What different does it make if it's present? It's not like anybody is going to read it anyway.
This is just like the trillion of the TARP bill. The biggest spending bill in history and no one bothers to read it.
Waxman only made it available this morning. As far as I know there are no print outs except for what is pulled from the Rules Committee website and printed individually. I have been screaming about this on FR all day to no avail.
What’s BOHICA? I’ll probably like what it stands for.
“It’s not like anybody is going to read it anyway.”
Of course not. They didn’t read that “stimulus” bill, so why would they read this one?
“BOHICA (also spelled “B.O.H.I.C.A” and Bohica”) is an acronym that stands for “Bend Over, Here It Comes Again” - Used colloquially to indicate that an adverse situation is about to repeat itself, and that acquiescence is the wisest course of action. It literally refers to an acceptance of forced sodomy. The term grew to regular use amongst the US Armed Forces during the Vietnam War, and would appear to have derived from the French word beaucoup (meaning “many” or “much”).  Although it originated in the US Military forces, its usage has spread to civilian environments and used to describe unavoidable, unpleasant situations that have inconvenienced one before, and are about to yet again.”
Beat me by |..| THAT much!
This thing stinks. The backroom deals, arm twisting and out and out dishonesty that we are getting shoved down our throats. I am hearing between $70-$100 per family in increased bills. What a sham.
“Whats BOHICA? Ill probably like what it stands for.”
Bawney Fwank would...
I still go back to that conversation in civics class where I asked if it were POSSIBLE for Congress to sign our country over and I was told it was next to impossible because it would take the entire Congress not being able to read the bill or not doing it and then the President signing it on top of that...
yeah, after that last stimulus I’m not so sure anymore.
That $70-100.00 would be PER WEEK, not annually, I’m SURE!
Stall tactic - they don’t have enough votes...
I’m getting sick. Why did I ask...
This is a cluster-blank.
I am hearing between $70-$100 per family in increased bills. What a sham.
And that doesnt include the increased TAXES!!
No it's not. That's what it's being portrayed as, but if you glance through the PDF it's actually adding more (about another 200 pages I figure) to the crap and trade bill including directives markets and incentives for reps in farm districts.
The text on the pages are written as events happen.
Within a year Obama will rule by decree. Congress will be shut-down. That is indeed Change We Can Believe In.
Stupid spell check. Derivatives market
Far as I can tell the news networks are still on board with BO, they've virtually blacked out any news on the vote.
If you were Bawney, you would be looking forward to the new stimulus package...
Tauscher (acting as Speaker) is a clueless tool.
Markey is a slimy snake oil salesman.
Waxman is (comment removed by savedbygrace)
Does anyone have a link to a video of this exchange about 1/2 hr ago?
I’d like to share the circus with some folks you missed it.
Spell czechs can make you want to tare yore hare out...
Is there even a bill number?
Uh, PER MONTH. Just on your electric bill. Doesn't include your gas, nor the increased price for anything using fuel to be produced and/or shipped to you (i.e. anything). Think food: You need petroleum-based fertilizer, the tractors and combines need fuel, processing takes fuel, shipping it to you uses fuel and if it is refrigerated it uses yet more fuel.
The average family is going to be out between $3,000 and $4,000 per year. At least we'll save a lot on gas - unemployed people don't use much of it compared to commuting every day. If this passes, kiss this lousy economy good-bye, and welcome in GD 2.
Jump forward 2 score and 7 years and I don't have that feeling anymore!
“I am hearing between $70-$100 per family in increased bills. What a sham.
And that doesnt include the increased TAXES!!”
The increased bills themselves are a tax. Government loves that sort of thing: being able to blame their milking of our incomes on third parties.
They have advanced from voting on bills that they haven’t even read to voting for bills that don’t even exist.
Just vote “Yes.” You don’t need anything except ‘The One wants it’ before you vote, so shut up and get in line or the people with sticks and axes will visit you.
I remember a time in my life that I thanked God that I had been born in the USA verses any other country on earth.
Jump forward 2 score and 7 years and I don’t have that feeling anymore!
chin up...we’ve beaten bigger thugs than this...
Direct link for you, LL.
Missed your earlier comments today. Apologies.
Ive never seen anything like this.
It would be laughable if it wasn’t so disgusting.
Worse and worse. And yes, you are right, I was imprecise. He introduced the amendment in the form of a substitute to H.R. 2998, which incorporates a number of amendments that no one had read today except for his staff, and which further clouds the legislation. It was accepted. But my point is, Waxman posted it on the committee website and everyone was forced to fend for themselves at the last minute.
Bawney belongs a Maximum Security prison. Those “boys” would keep him happy.
The real truth is if Congress votes for this bill or any other bill by Obama and Co.; they will have given up their own power.
I am trying but the amount of crap that this administration and their surrogate Congress get away with without a peep from our so called News Orgs gets depressing!
We’ve seen govts like this in action before- in banana republics. Maybe congress needs a new logo featuring a BIG BANANA.
I heard Roscoe Bartlett said his calls were running 50-50 for this bill.
50% saying no, 50% saying HELL NO.
The remaining thug 14 are going to be shucking and jiving like there is no tomorrow. Imagine the promises to vote yes, unless it really comes down to it, “cause it might cost me the election” nonsense. Could be a long time for those votes to come in. Everybody is going to be checking to see who in a “safe district” hasn’t voted yet!
“Bawney belongs a Maximum Security prison. Those boys would keep him happy.”
...there would be no punishment, but we could get him out of the house...I would put him in a medium security prison in the general population...hoo haaa...
I guess they want to save printing costs since the result is the same - Bills passed with all sorts of Pork and Corruption.
What gross incompetence from the congress miscreants!
Ignorant buffoons rushing mammoth bills through without reading it thoroughly. Maddening, isnt it?
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