g*d d@mn "triangulating"....no standards.
Posted on 06/26/2009 10:23:59 PM PDT by smokingfrog
Washington, DC - -(AmmoLand.com)- Imagine that. The Senate confirmed this week, by a vote of 62-35, a gun banner who stays up at night thinking of ways to impose more gun control upon American citizens.
Harold Koh is that gun grabber, and he was confirmed yesterday to be the Legal Adviser at the State Department.
On Wednesday, Senate Republicans attempted to kill the Koh nomination with a filibuster — until eight of them crossed the aisle to help Democrats confirm Koh.
The back-stabbing Senators are:
Lamar Alexander (R-TN) Susan Collins (R-ME) Judd Gregg (R-NH) Orrin Hatch (R-UT) Richard Lugar (R-IN) Mel Martinez (R-FL) Olympia Snowe (R-ME) George Voinovich (R-OH) Once the filibuster was thwarted, Koh’s nomination passed easily. The vote on final passage can be viewed at: http://tinyurl.com/m4m2f5
Koh is eager to assume his post at the State Department, having lamented that there is only so much that can be done from the outside to push gun control treaties, and that ultimately we need people like him in positions of power. The chief lawyer for the State Department is just the position someone like him needs to push more gun control through international treaties.
GOA will continue watching for any attempt by the Obama administration to foist an international gun control treaty upon the citizens of the U.S.
Please stay tuned.
Don’t Let Your Senators Escape the Heat of the Spotlight!
If you have been watching the news, you have no doubt seen stories on the health care debate. This is the topic de jour on Capitol Hill, and Congress is ramping up to vote on a bill in a few weeks.
Last week, GOA alerted you to the fact that the whole health care issue has become a Trojan Horse for gun control, among other things.
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
Lugar must become a history lesson as not what to do to stay in office.
This is becoming disturbing with Lamar Alexander. The others have earned reputations as RINOs already. Lamar was the sole pubbie to vote against concealed carry in national parks.
And 8 republicans today helped Pelosi pass the most onerous, unconstitutional sh*t legislation in the last 40 years.
Unlucky number for Republicans. Defeated in o8’ as well. Orrin Hatch was a small surprise.
Fire those phuks. Take names and post credible opponents if we still are allowed to vote after the ACORN fascists allow us to vote next cycle. There will be blood.
I’d love to my states U.S. Senator the Long Time Bush Family Friend Lamar Alexander (R-TN) voted out of public office for good. The man has always been a Big Government Liberal with a R after his name. When the Health Care vote comes up he’ll vote for it too just watch. Alexander likely would have never made it past being a state lawmaker had he not been running against a felon DEM when he was elected governor. He was not a great governor but hey after Ray Blanton anyone was an improvement. His seat next time up needs to be targeted for replacement.
That article was pretty much incoherent and unsubstantiated. The only facts were the RINO’s who voted for the confirmation.
It’s looking like it almost time to RESET.
These rhinocrats have GOT to be replaced with people who have their constuents best interest at heart. My guess is that the grassroots movement will contribute to any real conservatives who run against them
Voinovich is retiring. He should have been asked to step-down when he announced this.
Mel Martinez (R-FL)
George Voinovich (R-OH)
Both these critters have already announced they are not running again. So this is how they really feel
And Koh is an evil genius who will do a lot more than grab guns. Law of the Sea and other UN type crap is what he tries to impose on America
Voinovich and Martinez are leaving. They can’t claim they were pressured. Republicans suck...Some are OK but we have more backstabbers then we deserve
Just look at the Republican jerks who voted that Crap n Trade bill in the House
Dick Morris said last night that this was an orchestrated vote. Democrats in areas that were not safe, did not vote for the bill, so that they could tell their constituents that they did not support it. Republicans, the same.
Can’t claim they were pressured...?
Sure they can! They have to protect their cushy retirement deals.
It’s one thing for the conservatives to vote for a lib Republican in a lib state if no one is a better candidate but not for states like Indiana, Ohio and Tennessee.
Conservatives had better pay more attention to the primaries.
The NRA has filed as a Non-Government Organization in order to fight Global Civilian Disamament. They need every gunowners support.
You are correct because greasy Mel Martinez is an international lawyer so wants to be on excellent terms with State Department where scummy Koh will reside
The final vote was 62-35 w/ 2 not voting (Fatso Kennedy & Sheets Byrd).
So 'Eight' didn't 'cross the line', five of the usual suspects did.
Koh is eager to... to push gun control ... someone like him needs to push more gun control through international treaties.Here's my idea of 'International Gun Control'....
It's hitting your target from 500 yards with iron sights.
okay, 400 yards, I'm getting old :-)
Looks like you are correct. The information in the article doesn’t match with the official vote. What’s up with GAO? They need to get their facts straight.
"All throughout American history, the rifleman has been defined as a marksman capable of hitting a man-sized target from 500 yards away — no ifs, ands or buts about it. This 500-yard range is traditionally known as "the rifleman's quarter-mile;" a rifleman can hit just about any target he can see. This skill was particulary evident in the birth of our country, and was the difference in winning the Revolutionary War.However, I better clarify something in my post #21 asap.What's a rifleman?
In short, a rifleman is an armed American, trained in the tradition of American Liberty. It's a man who has learned to shoot a rifle accurately — accurate enough to score "expert" on the Army Qualification Course. Until you can do that, you're considered a "Cook," unprepared and unqualified to carry a rifle on the firing line of freedom.
I ain't no stinking 'Cook', not even at 60, almost 61. ;-)
I will be voting against Lugar from now on.
These push-overs need to be voted out in 2010.
There isn’t going to be anything recognizable about this Country by then...
Your link to the roll call vote has Lamar Alexander as a Nay, not Yea. I retract my earlier comment about Lamar Alexander, although he failed to support the Coburn Amendement for concealed carry privileges in national parks. Thanks for linking the roll call vote.
Lugar (R-IN), Martinez (R-FL), Collins (R-ME), Voinovich (R-OH) and Snowe (R-ME) were the defectors after my personal inspection of the roll call vote. I have to wonder about your source for the story.
They also bear false witness to Gregg (R-NH) and Hatch (R-UT) who voted Nay.
I voted against him last November (the “None of the Above” candidate). I’ve had quite enough of him.
I didn’t check the roll call vote before posted. I see the same as you.
Looks like Alexander, Gregg and Hatch voted NAY.
We can expect the same bunch to stab us in the back over Cap and Trade, with the possible exception of Hatch. But with the possible addition of other "moderates" as well. Maybe even McLame.
They aren’t getting people’s guns without getting the lead in them first. Let them eat cake or lead.
You know, I’d rather have Boxer and Feinstein as my Senators than Snowe and Collins.
Go ahead, Koh, kick that hornets nest!
I, too, am disturbed about the trend Alexander has been taking of late. He hasn’t always been that way. I get the feeling he’s being offered a deal he can’t refuse.
“Lamar Alexander (R-TN) Nay
Judd Gregg (R-NH) Nay
Orrin Hatch (R-UT) Nay “
Good. Glad to know they didn’t stab us in the back after all.
No, I jumped the gun. The original story is lame. Alexander, Hatch and Gregg voted Nay for Koh. You have to check the roll call vote that the poster linked.
Relax, fellow FReepers - one more commie, even a gun grabbing commie, won’t make any difference at Foggy Bottom.
::squeal!!!::
I am so PROUD that several THOUGHTFUL, INDEPENDENT members of the U.S. Senate defeated the HATE-FILLED EXTREME RIGHT-WINGERS who would deny this fine DISTINGUISHED appointee from our first black President. Clearly the INTOLERANT right was motivated by sheer RACISM on this one! Thanks to BI-PARTISAN leadership in the Senate, Mr. Koh will be able to pursue a MODERATE, COMMON-SENSE approach of banning all firearms in the United States and locking up law-abiding citizens. I commend our President's CENTRIST approach by nominating excellent appointments like Mr. Koh. My Democrat friends, please send donations to Socialists 4 Kirk, 666 Rino Drive, Hon. Rockefeller Suite, Chicago, IL , so I will be able to join my Democrat colleagues in ensuring we defeat the right-wing NAZIs in the Senate and enact the business of the American people. I'll be BETTER on YOUR progressive issues than Roland Burris!!!"
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BTW, anyone notice that the eeeeeeeeeeevil John McCain & Lindsey Graham duo WEREN'T on board for confirming this RAT (not surprising, since they have opposed most of Obama's more controversial nominees), but Judd Gregg and Mel Martinez were? I seem to recall freepers touting them as great conservatives the last time they ran...
Koh is crazy, plain and simple. His writings reveal his very far-left, wacko theories on a number of issues.
He is more dangerous to the US than Al Qaeda because we can hunt and kill members of Al Qaeda. Koh will work at the White House and destroy us from within, with immunity.
The Obama kingdom is beginning to look like Hitler’s early years.
Unfortunately to the media any authoritarian (it’s self a left wing thing in my book) type who isn’t clearly a Marxist will be called “right wing” even if they propose left wing economic measures. “Left wing” they rarely use as pejorative.
Richard Lugar is a RINO type who doesn’t get talked about a lot in relation to some others.
He makes Graham look good.
For the life of me I cannot understand why the Republican party does not get rid of Snowe and Collins. They are outright leftist Democrats. They can never be counted on, ever. The “Conservative Base” has some real work to do. They need to get rid of EVERY SINGLE Rhino.
But then, I doubt there is time, by the next election, America will NOT be America and this band of Extremely Vicious Thugs, will have even the election process taken over. Without a military coup coupled with a Revolution, America will not survive this Fraudulent Thug and his henchmen. As Glenn Beck said on Friday, “We are witnessing the Dismanteling of America day by day”!! He is right. It’s almost dizzying. Very Sad. CO
Lugar came in at #8 last year in the top 10 Senate RINOs. No. #1. was Olympia Snowe, #2. Susan Collins, #4. George Voinovich, #5. Lisa Murkowski, 6#. Mel Martinez. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil Lindsey Graham didn't make the top 10 since he votes conservative 90% of the time. In the House, #1 was Michael Castle. #3. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Those south FL Cuban Republicans are just so darn conservative? Aren't they? Sure...) Mark Kirk made #8 last year (no doubt he was disappointed that he slipped below his usual 1st and 2nd slot so he'd vowed to be more liberal this year), and the allegedly "conservative" Peter King was no. #10. Fellow NYer John McHugh is also one of the top 10 RINOs, but he represents a much more liberal district and has become an Obamaite.
Not that freepers care about politicians ACTUAL records in office, sadly. Alot of these socialist politicians will continue to get a pass from most of FR (even the ones in so-called "red states" where the "rule" is we don't tolerate disloyality there), while freepers continue to declare Lindsey Graham is the most evil man on earth instead.
::sigh::
My post was a parody of mainstream media talking points, with RINO Congressman Kirk employs frequently (he's the lone Chicago area "Republican" in a competitive district that the media is always rooting for). Kirk will pass legislation even some moderate Democrats can't stomach, and claim his socialist agenda is "centrist" and "middle of the road"
Lugar came in at #8 last year in the top 10 Senate RINOs. No. #1. was Olympia Snowe, #2. Susan Collins, #4. George Voinovich, #5. Lisa Murkowski, 6#. Mel Martinez. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil Lindsey Graham didn't make the top 10 since he votes conservative 90% of the time. In the House, #1 was Michael Castle. #3. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Those south FL Cuban Republicans are just so darn conservative? Aren't they? Sure...) Mark Kirk made #8 last year (no doubt he was disappointed that he slipped below his usual 1st and 2nd slot so he'd vowed to be more liberal this year), and the allegedly "conservative" Peter King was no. #10. Fellowing NYer John McHugh is also one of the top 10 RINOs, but he represents a much more liberal district and has become an Obamaite.
Not that freepers care about politicians ACTUAL records in office, sadly. Alot of these socialist politicians will continue to get a pass from most of FR (even the ones in so-called "red states" where the "rule" is we don't tolerate disloyalty there), while freepers continue to declare Lindsey Graham is the most evil man on earth instead.
::sigh::
Alexander, Gregg and Hatch voted NAY (against Koh).
The Gun Owners of America article seems to have some faulty information, at least according the senate roll call vote.
I think that Lugar has contracted Patomic Fever, perhaps accompanied by senility. He should have retired years ago.
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