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Corrupt conservatives; Sanctimonious hypocrites on the right dishonor faith, family and freedom
The Washington Times ^ | 2009-06-27 | Jeffrey T. Kuhner

Posted on 06/28/2009 12:41:59 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Is the conservative movement rotten to its core?

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford's bizarre revelation that he had an extramarital affair with a longtime female friend in Argentina has dealt another blow to an already decrepit Republican Party. After losing control of Congress in 2006 and the White House in last year's election, the Republicans are not only in the minority; they also are adrift and leaderless. Mr. Sanford was highly touted as one who could advance new ideas, as a fresh face for Republican conservatives.

He carved out a distinct political identity by fusing a command of policy with Southern folksiness. Pro-tax-cuts, pro-life and a staunch critic of big government, Mr. Sanford is a solid conservative. He has been a champion of old-fashioned, austere values such as frugality, modesty and Christian morality. His Southern conservatism is rooted in God, country and family.

. . . . .

He has openly confronted America's decline, often making comparisons to the decadent Roman Empire. He rightly pointed out that, like ancient Rome, America is plagued by malaise and is in decay: Our borders have become porous; our politics are rife with factionalism; our economy is slowly being strangled by bureaucratic statism; our national identity is disintegrating; and our culture is ravaged by neo-pagan hedonism and moral permissiveness.

His greatest accomplishment as governor is that he has abolished the illegal $155 million budget deficit he inherited from his predecessor. Mr. Sanford is a rare breed: He takes constitutional requirements seriously. And he balanced the budget by slashing spending.

He emerged as a national leader against President Obama's $787 billion economic stimulus plan.

. . . . .

Yet now he has squandered much of his legacy on an act of pure folly.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: doublestandard; ensign; gopimplosion; hypocrisy; marksanford; rinoparty; sanford
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To: lbama
if a man’s wife can’t trust him, how can a business associate?

I've always heard that, and believed it.

41 posted on 06/28/2009 5:47:17 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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Note to Jeffrey T. Kuhner - not everyone on the (R) side is a "Bible thumper" as the SRM believes. Where have these headlines been the past few years?

Corrupt Liberals: John Edwards (d) has "love child"
Charlie Rangel (d) caught in fraud scheme
William Jefferson (d) caught with cash in freezer
Millons of campaign donations for Hussein (d) possibly came from China

I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on, but have other things to do today.

42 posted on 06/28/2009 5:48:53 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: rdb3
and tell me that this isn't music.

They bring it all, don't they? Good stuff.

43 posted on 06/28/2009 5:49:09 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Can’t get enough of the Sanford crap fest....jeez, FR/TMZ, where are the 24 & 7 sleaz stories about the friggn’ Rat slimes?


44 posted on 06/28/2009 5:55:44 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: rabscuttle385

Mark Sanford is done, as it should be, he will answer to his constituents. That is the stark difference between a conservative voter and a liberal voter, as they will not knowingly continue to re-elect liars, thieves, cheaters, and murderers. Democrat voters make excuses for, overlook and admire their lowlifes. Barney Frank and Teddy Kennedy are long term prime examples.


45 posted on 06/28/2009 6:01:58 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: raybbr
Projection is a form of ameliorating your OWN digressions.

I have plenty of sins, digressions, errors and omissions, but adultery isn't one of them, even in thought.

And if Gov. Sanford had confessed to drinking too much wine and hanging out on FR instead of doing something useful, I'd say, "Yeah, I know how that is," instead, "Oh, that's so awful!!!"

46 posted on 06/28/2009 6:11:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (O hai. Do I need you for something right now?)
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To: rdb3
... expecting to get perfection, moral or otherwise, from political leaders who are just as human as we all are. That's just not smart.

True, but given the responsibility political leaders (perhaps wrongly) have, it's not unreasonable to expect them to avoid howling idiocy, or to vote them out if they display it.

On the other hand, from a strictly practical standpoint, is a governor who's an adulterer with, apparently, no common sense at all worse than what we've got in NC, an outright crook who's also completely incompetent?

47 posted on 06/28/2009 6:14:46 AM PDT by Tax-chick (O hai. Do I need you for something right now?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Just because we know what’s right doesn’t mean that we always do what’s right. That’s called sin.

Just because we sin doesn’t mean that we’re relieved of our obligation to defend what is right. Rather, our continued obligations to defend what is right should help bring us to repentance.

Mr. Sanford did what was wrong, and he knew it. His sins didn’t relieve him of his obligation to distinguish between right and wrong, and to defend the right. Rather, his continued responsibilities should weigh on him to impel him to seek forgiveness and firm purpose of amendment in his life.


48 posted on 06/28/2009 6:21:40 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

I agree Sanford should seek to right his wrongs. As a SC taxpayer, I want him to amend his ways while not being paid with my tax dollars. I would have some respect for him if he gracefully resigned. He turned himself into a national laughingstock and needs to get off the national stage. We in SC will end up with a big spender Dem as our next governor thanks to his thinking with his male appendage instead of his brain.


49 posted on 06/28/2009 6:36:37 AM PDT by doosee
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To: Tax-chick
True, but given the responsibility political leaders (perhaps wrongly) have, it's not unreasonable to expect them to avoid howling idiocy, or to vote them out if they display it.

Idiocy stings.

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.

Oh, dear...


50 posted on 06/28/2009 6:39:48 AM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I have trouble understanding how anyone who cannot keep the most fundamental of vows to one person can credibly swear they will keep a more complex vow to uphold (protect and defend) the US Constitution.

Perot used to instantly fire anybody in his organization who was guilty of adultery. His feeling was "If your wife can't trust you, why should I?"

Works for me.

51 posted on 06/28/2009 8:29:00 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: rabscuttle385
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
--John Adams

52 posted on 06/28/2009 8:32:26 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: doosee
Dear doosee,

You're a South Carolina voter, so it's really up to you, not to me.

But I wouldn't want the governor of my state to resign from office only because he had an extramarital affair while in office. I didn't think that Mr. Clinton should have been forced from office for fooling around with another woman. I believed that what should have forced him from office was:

1. The inherent abuse of power when a high-level executive gets it on with someone very low in the ranks of the same organization;

2. That Mr. Clinton perjured himself, obstructed justice and harmed or threatened harm to those who told the truth in trying to cover up his affair.

There are seven deadly sins, and most of us fail at one or more of them more than occasionally.

Interestingly, it seems that usually, only those that give in to one of them - lust - are condemned as being unacceptable per se for further public service. And only if they get caught.


sitetest

53 posted on 06/28/2009 10:13:45 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Oatka
Dear Oatka,

“Perot used to instantly fire anybody in his organization who was guilty of adultery. His feeling was ‘If your wife can't trust you, why should I?’”

I would sooner vote for Mark Sanford for president than Henry R. Perot


sitetest

54 posted on 06/28/2009 10:16:59 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

One might profitably inquire what it is about holding office in the current era that correlates with the problems that we find in so many officeholders, whether Republican or POS (Party of Satan).


sitetest

55 posted on 06/28/2009 10:18:59 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
I would sooner vote for Mark Sanford for president than Henry R. Perot

Evidently Perot has higher standards.

56 posted on 06/28/2009 10:28:25 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: jazzlite
Yes, because much of Europe is Godless and Socialist.

Perhaps today that is the case, but long before Socialist theory marriage for the wealthy and those of position was a matter of state security (especially among royal families), business alliance, or consolidation of power. With exceptions, only the poor married for love.

That is not saying such did not occur in the wealthier classes, but it was often overshadowed by other considerations.

57 posted on 06/28/2009 10:33:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: sitetest

If there were extenuating circumstances, I could ignore a Governor who is eating out and forgoing the home cooking. After I had the misfortune of watching Sanford babble on like an idiot about his transgressions, it convinced me he has no common sense. A person with common sense doesnt fly to Argentina on a whim to “break up” with some floozy. Then there is the use of taxpayer dollars for the fling. Also, how many other events has there been. It needs to be ended now.


58 posted on 06/28/2009 10:56:43 AM PDT by doosee
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To: sitetest

Mark Steyn just wrote a column about that very subject.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2280523/posts


59 posted on 06/28/2009 2:48:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick (O hai. Do I need you for something right now?)
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To: Oatka
Dear Oatka,

Mr. Perot didn't betray his wife in 1992, but rather his country. His hatred of President Bush, the father, is well-known. He conspired with Mr. Clinton to throw the election to Mr. Clinton, and planned to be rewarded with multi-billion dollar sole-source government-related contracts.

I guess inflation had taken a toll since Judas had taken his thirty pieces of silver.


sitetest

60 posted on 06/28/2009 8:11:42 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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