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To: Jagdgewehr

Nope...I didn’t misunderstand your question or your assertion, and I see your point. And no, I am not a lefty.

What I am saying is...... there are PLENTY of children out there who are being raised by straight parents who have no business pro-creating..... these children themselves will grow up to be criminals, liars, wife beaters, hell...they might even be President!

you talk about norms and exceptions. So....what is the norm of a 16 yo pregnant girl? I would say that she is unemployed, on welfare, uneducated, and not exactly sure who the father is. So should we change our perceptions for the norm, or the exception?

I am not talking about changing your moral code. I am saying that those children, or children in foster homes with no future, or orphans.....would be better off living with a gay couple with good jobs and loving homes. Let’s just talk about THOSE children, who have no other place to go....can you honestly say that you would rather have them bounced from foster home to foster home, instead of living a stable life with a gay couple (who has been properly background checked and followed up upon)?

what other solutions do you have for these kids? Please fix our foster care system, no one else has.


37 posted on 06/28/2009 12:38:10 PM PDT by DecentAmerican
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To: DecentAmerican
And no, I am not a lefty.

I did not imply you were. I will say that those, conservative or not, who use anecdotal examples or "exceptions to the rule" arguments to impugn traditional family arrangements and champion homosexual arrangements are playing into the hands of those who want to radically redefine moral or the social norms. This is the tactic they use in their arguments and to forward their political and societal agenda.

What I am saying is...... there are PLENTY of children out there who are being raised by straight parents who have no business pro-creating..... these children themselves will grow up to be criminals, liars, wife beaters, hell...they might even be President!

And you think that it would be any different if both parents were homosexuals? How is being raised by homosexuals more advantageous than heterosexual parents? The homosexuals get their way and society's ills are mitigated? You can't convince me of that one.

So....what is the norm of a 16 yo pregnant girl? I would say that she is unemployed, on welfare, uneducated, and not exactly sure who the father is. So should we change our perceptions for the norm, or the exception?

Really? You will have to clue me in on what this has to do with having homosexual parents. Furthermore, you seem to have this proclivity of painting the traditional family in the least favorable picture while lauding the homosexuals. I believe the norm is, more often than not, the 16 year old pregnant girl having support from her family in the midst of these circumstances. Of course, it is easy to be carried away when all you here is the bad stories while the innumerable cases of traditional families go on quietly dealing with these unfortunate circumstances.

I am not talking about changing your moral code.

You don't understand. The homosexuals are!

I am saying that those children, or children in foster homes with no future, or orphans.....would be better off living with a gay couple with good jobs and loving homes. Let’s just talk about THOSE children, who have no other place to go....can you honestly say that you would rather have them bounced from foster home to foster home, instead of living a stable life with a gay couple (who has been properly background checked and followed up upon)?

I don't accept your premise here. Again, you are implying that traditional families are worse for children than the homosexual couple. You can't tell me that there are homosexual couples out there adopting any and all unwanted children out there and mitigating these social ills. They aren't anymore, if at all, than traditional families are.

what other solutions do you have for these kids? Please fix our foster care system, no one else has.

These wonderful parents that you are holding in high esteem here don't seem interested in doing that. They didn't adopt their son....one of them was artificially inseminated.

39 posted on 06/28/2009 2:39:32 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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