Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Aloha, 'star wars': Obama bluffs on defending Hawaii
The Washington Times ^ | June 29, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 06/28/2009 10:01:14 PM PDT by Abakumov

The Obama administration seized headlines June 18 when the Defense Department stated that the United States would deploy ground- and sea-based missile-defense assets to protect Hawaii. This was a response to North Korea's threat to launch a long-range missile on July 4 toward the islands. However, new information suggests that the administration is bluffing and our defenses are inadequate to get the job done.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoasia; bhodod; democrat; democrats; hawaii; impeachobama; missiledefense; nationalinsecurity; northkorea; obama
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-75 next last

1 posted on 06/28/2009 10:01:15 PM PDT by Abakumov
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Abakumov
Just like 0, yet his job of destroying the US looks like it is unstoppable.
2 posted on 06/28/2009 10:03:54 PM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

So how would a 49 star flag look anyway?


3 posted on 06/28/2009 10:04:01 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

Of course our defenses (star wars) are inadequate to protect Hawaii or Alaska or anybody else from N.Korea gone mad.

Zero’s Marxist predecessors have managed to slow its development down over the years and HE WANTS missile defense ENDED ANYWAY.

It’s another version of what the Dems like to call “The Securing of America” under their madness. Similar to the Cap and Tax us into oblivion economically and “security” act that 244 House Dems and 8 Traitor Repubs just passed.....ironically on the same day Michael We are the World Jackson died.


4 posted on 06/28/2009 10:04:47 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

Obama has no intention of defending the United States against any enemy - foreign or domestic.


5 posted on 06/28/2009 10:07:14 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov
Zero is going to have to get off of the ‘deeply troubled and deeply concerned’ pedestal if he's going to actually DO anything to stop the aggressors in this world. But maybe he doesn't want to stop the aggressors. I am ‘deeply troubled and deeply concerned’ that Zero is our CIC. God help us.
6 posted on 06/28/2009 10:07:29 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov
Okay. I'll offer myself up on this one.

Seriesly. Nobody truly believes North Korea will fire a missile upon Hawaii.

Right?

I know, I know, I know. Nobody truly believed Hitler would invade Poland or Japan would bomb Pearl Harbor but, c'mon, those countries actually had war-making capabilities.

Kim Jung Mentally-Il has no such capabilities. He has one bullet. Ubama would HAVE to respond overwhelmingly.

Right?

Anybody with me?

7 posted on 06/28/2009 10:08:44 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

Obama Wan Nairobi strikes again!


8 posted on 06/28/2009 10:09:17 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hoodat

It’s in his “agreement” isn’t it? Oh, wait, he screwed up the presidential oath at the inauguration and had to do it over again....behind closed doors. God knows what he swore to.


9 posted on 06/28/2009 10:10:54 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

The Coward in Chief couldn’t defend his daughter’s swingset from neighborhood bullies.


10 posted on 06/28/2009 10:11:02 PM PDT by Miss Behave (OMG, my tagline is stalking me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

~~PING!


11 posted on 06/28/2009 10:11:09 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

If the PRK manages to convert the beautiful Hawaiian Islands into mounds of glowing green glass, then the COLB argument becomes moot.

Would you defend Hawaii? What better way to hide the evidence?

Kenyans take note. You better hide your evidence, or there could be a similar “accident” in your vicinity.


12 posted on 06/28/2009 10:11:52 PM PDT by tpmintx (Liberalism: Solving problems caused by Jealousy - with solutions based on Lies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle
Ubama would HAVE to respond overwhelmingly

Wanna bet your life on that presumption? Personally, I believe that the First Thug was celebrating in kindred spirit with the Palestinian Animals on 09.11.2001.

Therefore, he has no interest in defending America; he's more interested in becoming King of the World. Remember, he flubbed his Oath Of Office back on 1/20/09.

13 posted on 06/28/2009 10:12:45 PM PDT by kromike
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Miss Behave

Daughters’. Both. He couldn’t defend Michelle’s vegetable garden from bunnies.


14 posted on 06/28/2009 10:13:40 PM PDT by Miss Behave (OMG, my tagline is stalking me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: STARWISE

I can’t put my words of disgust together.


15 posted on 06/28/2009 10:15:03 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

“Justification for the cuts was led by Rep. Ellen O. Tauscher, California Democrat, who is the newly confirmed undersecretary of state for arms control and international security. Ms. Tauscher will play a major role in missile-defense policy.”

Send in the clowns


16 posted on 06/28/2009 10:19:22 PM PDT by Selene
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kromike
Wanna bet your life on that presumption?

By the time Menatlly-Il has a missile capable of reaching California we will know whether or not Ubama will respond based on what happens in Hawaii so my life is not immediately in danger.

Personally, I believe that the First Thug was celebrating in kindred spirit with the Palestinian Animals on 09.11.2001

That may very well be but if NK lobs a missile at Hawaii and Ubama doesn't respond. There is absolutely, positively no way he remains Pres--ent.

Which means we get Biden, but still....

17 posted on 06/28/2009 10:19:44 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: tpmintx
If the PRK manages to convert the beautiful Hawaiian Islands into mounds of glowing green glass, then the COLB argument becomes moot.

Would you defend Hawaii? What better way to hide the evidence?

That's actually a very interesting point!

18 posted on 06/28/2009 10:21:54 PM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

Barrack Hussein Obama = The Neville Chamberlain of our time!


19 posted on 06/28/2009 10:22:10 PM PDT by SDShack (Obamanomics = Economics + Moronics)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SandRat

This 0 is a traitor and enemy of the USA.


20 posted on 06/28/2009 10:22:34 PM PDT by elephantlips
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: elephantlips
Not only ‘O’ but every RAT elected or appointed.
21 posted on 06/28/2009 10:30:09 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle
Ubama would HAVE to respond overwhelmingly.

I think the greater question is.. what would happen to a president, that knew of a clear and present danger, not doing everything he could to protect this country?

22 posted on 06/28/2009 10:30:53 PM PDT by ditto h
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: ditto h
I think the greater question is.. what would happen to a president, that knew of a clear and present danger, not doing everything he could to protect this country?

If he's a DemocRAT he gets re-elected. But not to respond after an attack is simply unthinkable.

23 posted on 06/28/2009 10:34:18 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: kromike
Remember, he flubbed his Oath Of Office back on 1/20/09.

Holy cats. Has it only been 5 months???

24 posted on 06/28/2009 10:35:41 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: STARWISE
Well, damn.....thanks for the heads up, Starwise.

However, there are a couple Aegis Cruisers deployed here and several DDGs which can be deployed as far as necessary to defend.

I don't doubt that our Feckless Leader is chicken when push comes to shove but the Navy ain't.
25 posted on 06/28/2009 10:40:46 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov; SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; ...

The list, ping


26 posted on 06/28/2009 10:41:42 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

Has Pres—ent Ubama ordered the Concern-O-Meter to Level Mauve yet?


27 posted on 06/28/2009 10:45:31 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov
Hmm...where to begin? In the first place, the North Koreans are technological incompetents who are lucky to hit the Pacific with their missiles and not even that all the time. Second, that I don't believe they've managed to achieve a single nuclear explosion as designed yet and it's honestly debatable whether they have at all. Third, their real effort appears to be selling the nastiest weapons they can devise (whether successful or not) to dictatorships such as Burma - yes, that's what it's called - that are mirror images in brutality.

That isn't to say they couldn't hit Hawaii if they got lucky, managed to squeeze another 10% out of a maximum range that is already mostly speculation, or...or if they got help. Not from the Iranians, who rival them in terms of incompetence, but from the Chinese or Russians, for whom this is a long-stolen technology.

Our own technology is also being hindered by political incompetence of the first order; fortunately it's advanced enough as it is to perhaps survive four years of Idiocy On The Potomac. It will NOT knock out a ballistic missile plummeting at Mach 23.

So the issue is, whose incompetence will triumph? Here's a clue:

The Obama administration's hostility to missile defense is inexplicable.

Not in the least inexplicable. They're caught in a particularly stupid posture that everything without exception that their predecessor did was wrong, and have adjusted their efforts in the two areas of their own supreme incompetence - defense and foreign policy - to reflect a child's fantasy that the opposite of an imaginary boogie-man isn't a real one. But he is, real.

Our best hope is that Kimmie is more incompetent than 0bama, which is a tall order but I think he can do it. We've come a long way from the time that "simpleton" Reagan ended the arms race by winning it.

28 posted on 06/28/2009 10:47:59 PM PDT by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle
“Anybody with me?”

Maybe, at least part way. The Norks are showmen, albeit as low grade street theater. A lot of this stuff they're doing is just chest thumping to get more “treats” from those that can be shaken down. Well, it worked in the past with the Clinton/Albright circus. Why not with the Obama/Clinton rerun?

They don't have to actually drop a nuke on HI. All they have to do is get one of their missiles to hold together long enough, and put the warhead (probably concrete ballast) into the general vicinity of the islands. It's all just a demonstration anyway. If they can pop an underground nuke (even if it's a “lab device” that couldn't be launched), at about the same time they deliver an inert warhead into the region they've got a bit more street cred than they had before

The US will quite likely cough up some fuel and food to buy them off for a bit longer, and it'll probably work....for a while.

I'm just telling you what I think is going to happen. Personally, my opinion is that it's best to ignore them entirely so that there's no reinforcement of their sociopathic behavior. If they actually did load a nuke on the missile, and really got close enough to do some damage (wouldn't be much given their low yields), the nuclear response would knock them back further than the primitive state they exist in now. Do you suppose anyone over there would notice?

29 posted on 06/28/2009 10:49:44 PM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: BIGLOOK

God bless the US Navy ... eye of the tiger, guys and gals!

Are you hearing any military-type scuttlebutt?


30 posted on 06/28/2009 10:51:17 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Habibi
...the nuclear response would knock them back further than the primitive state they exist in now. Do you suppose anyone over there would notice?

Bombing N. Korea to The Stone Age would represent a move FORWARD in time.

31 posted on 06/28/2009 10:52:05 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: ditto h
I think the greater question is.. what would happen to a president, that knew of a clear and present danger, not doing everything he could to protect this country?

Nancy and Harry would throw a party for Zero.

32 posted on 06/28/2009 11:01:25 PM PDT by Cobra64
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle

“So how would a 49 star flag look anyway?”

We’ve already had a 49 star flag, when Alaska (Go Sarah) was admitted to the Union.
It would consist of 7 rows with 7 stars.

BTW, I understand your rhetorical question, and it’s implications, but Obama will not defend our (former) country.


33 posted on 06/28/2009 11:09:18 PM PDT by gigster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: originalbuckeye
I am ‘deeply troubled and deeply concerned’ that Zero is our CIC.

He's not our CIC. He's a pantywaist usurper occupying the "office" of the President. The rest of the dictators in the world have figured that out. They will be happy to strike at the U.S. with the firm knowledge that Zero is impotent to deal with them.

34 posted on 06/28/2009 11:13:20 PM PDT by Myrddin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

Anyone who believes Obama will defend America has poi for brains anyway.


35 posted on 06/28/2009 11:29:02 PM PDT by Dapper 26
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: STARWISE; Billthedrill
The USS Lake Erie has been credited with kills on the test range and we have Barking Sands Missile Test Range which "is the only range in the world where submarines, surface ships, aircraft and space vehicles can operate and be tracked simultaneously". So it's highly doubtful that anything will get through.

Last time the DPRK launched a couple years back, their missile didn't achieve orbit and splashed in the Pacific east of Japan. That was a two stage missile with liquid fuel systems and faulty spark plugs. It would take three stages and orbit to reach Hawaii and the mainland but not so sure about an Alaskan target. Either way, a Navy CG in the North Pacific would prevent an attack by a single missile (maybe more) on both sites.

Last scuttlebutt was that THAAD was to be deployed here and I thought ok.....but why let it get so close to shore when it's trajectory can be ascertained from far away.

Maybe the Army Missilemen need a little vacation and I'm all for that.
36 posted on 06/28/2009 11:34:25 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle; Salamander; Markos33; GSP.FAN; Fichori; All

Conspiracy Theory for Today:

The Usurper wants the NKs to launch on Hawai’i. He further wants them to succeed.

He will claim that all our anti-missile efforts failed, that no more money should be spent on advanced military systems and, at the same time, the conflagration will destroy a nasty little piece of incriminating evidence that’s locked away in Hawai’i’s official records.

“Birth Certificate lost in nuclear explosion” beats “The dog ate my homework” everytime.


37 posted on 06/28/2009 11:41:07 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: BIGLOOK

Great ... ! Prayers for our awesome military,
sworn to protect the USA from enemies from
without and WITHIN! If you catch any new info,
please ping me ... thank you, salty sleuth .. ;)


38 posted on 06/28/2009 11:53:19 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: shibumi

He could also point out that a nuclear explosion has a small carbon footprint. Just trying to help.


39 posted on 06/28/2009 11:57:50 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: All

Background Link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2281233/posts


40 posted on 06/29/2009 12:04:21 AM PDT by Cindy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

Scares the hell out of me! My son is moving to Hawaii to his new Navy base on July 3. Just the threat of a missle strike on Hawaii should have been meet with an extreme response, a “go ahead make my day” response. I will hold Obama and the Obamabots resposible.


41 posted on 06/29/2009 2:52:06 AM PDT by timetostand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle

Where are the other eight stars?


42 posted on 06/29/2009 2:58:35 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: BIGLOOK

FWIW, COBRA DANE, (1 MW average power, 95’ diameter apeture) in the western Aleutians, does a pretty fair job of surveillance on approachs from Korea to mainland Alaska, where there is an interceptor farm in Fort Greeley, near Fairbanks. (Some “vacations”).

There’s nothing comparable in Hawaii.


43 posted on 06/29/2009 3:03:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: ditto h

If he is a Democrat, nothing. The propganda machine, a/k/a the mainstream media will cpver for him. A Republican that does that is a horse of a different color.


44 posted on 06/29/2009 3:06:48 AM PDT by sport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: kromike

He didn’t flub it, Roberts flubbed the recital. Zero can’t string an intelligent sentence together without the TOTUS and at the Oath, Roberts was simply a standin for it. If I had been in Zero’s position, I would have been practicing the entire oath for weeks just to make sure it didn’t get screwed up even if the Chief Justice managed to do it.


45 posted on 06/29/2009 3:15:03 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

If the New York Times had published a similar article during the previous administration, I would be angry — upset about it spilling yet another Gov’t secret.

But this is the equivalent of pulling O’s pants down, and he needs it bigtime. How many times has he talked of shutting off money for ‘advanced weapons systems that don’t work’? How have the Dems in Congress railed against defense spending when the money could be ‘better spent in this country, providing healthcare for the poor’??

Your mouth is bigger than your a**hole, and you’ve been exposed, Obama. NOBODY WITH EVEN HALF A BRAIN BELIEVES A WORD YOU SAY!

I suppose your dad can beat up my dad, too, eh?

Keep talking...


46 posted on 06/29/2009 3:21:56 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (How's that change workin' out for ya, Obama voters?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

Gates is O’s tool.

Pathetic.


47 posted on 06/29/2009 3:28:56 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle

Nobody thought 9/11 would happen. As long as our enemies believe the we have a weak leader and with dems in power, they’ll be emboldened. Once NK has the capability to hit Hawaii, they will.


48 posted on 06/29/2009 3:32:26 AM PDT by hershey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle
"So how would a 49 star flag look anyway?"

Seven rows of seven stars each, staggered half a space alternating each row...just like it did between Hawaii and Alaska...I remember it well.

49 posted on 06/29/2009 4:01:52 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Abakumov

Obama looks on an attack by Korea as an ally coming to the rescue to help him in his attack on the American way of life.


50 posted on 06/29/2009 4:21:05 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Trickle Up Poverty)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-75 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson