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Future perfect Can a clothing-optional policy teach her young girls to be comfortable as women?
The Boston Globe ^ | June 29, 2009 | Jennifer Mattern

Posted on 06/29/2009 2:59:42 PM PDT by buccaneer81

Future perfect Can a clothing-optional policy teach her young girls to be comfortable as women? By Jennifer Mattern June 28, 2009

I ain’t what I used to be.

But my daughters don’t know that. They can’t imagine me any other way -- this soft, paunchy creature they have come to refer to as “Mom.” I tell them to take a good look, that someday they are likely to look much like I do now. They laugh. Preposterous!

I grew up in a household where everyone’s jiggly bits were kept under wraps. Only once, when I was very young, do I remember taking a shower with my mother. I recall being shocked at the fullness of her breasts, the curves of her belly and thighs.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: moonbat; nudism
Whackjob, but at least Mom is...Not Guilty!
1 posted on 06/29/2009 2:59:42 PM PDT by buccaneer81
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To: buccaneer81
I repeat, Not Guilty!


2 posted on 06/29/2009 3:00:30 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

jiggly bits?


3 posted on 06/29/2009 3:04:01 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: buccaneer81

Maybe not guilty in the looks dept. but she writes like a Valley Girl.


4 posted on 06/29/2009 3:04:40 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
jiggly bits?

On Monty Python, they called them "naughty bits."

5 posted on 06/29/2009 3:05:19 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

I suppose that on a homely women they would be “kibbles and bits”.


6 posted on 06/29/2009 3:06:34 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: buccaneer81

Does anyone still wonder why newspapers, The Boston Globe in particular, has gone broke? Could it be the writing?


7 posted on 06/29/2009 3:07:39 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: buccaneer81

I hate to be the bearer of bad news for the modest among us, however children raised in clothing optional or nudist environments have fewer hangups and a more positive body image. More importantly however the “mystery” is removed about the body and the teenage pregnancy rate is practically zip among girls raised in such environments.

Sex becomes a private thing between two people and simple nudity is not viewed as sexual.


8 posted on 06/29/2009 3:10:20 PM PDT by flash2368 (Scary Times)
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To: flash2368

Sorry, that is much too sensible for Free Republic.


9 posted on 06/29/2009 3:12:06 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: buccaneer81

I’d hit it.


10 posted on 06/29/2009 3:12:45 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: buccaneer81

“jiggly bits “

Good all girl band name!


11 posted on 06/29/2009 3:13:03 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Whatever happened to good old-fashioned mounds?

“Sometimes you feel like a nut
Sometimes you don’t
Almond Joy’s got nuts
Mounds don’t.”


12 posted on 06/29/2009 3:13:14 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rent this space.)
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To: flash2368

You are right. Nudity will not harm a child. And I too have read that the rate of teen pregnancies is lower with nudist families as well as the age of losing virginity being higher. However, that may also be because most parents in the nudist lifestyle are well educated and (now brace yourself) many are quite conservative in religion.


13 posted on 06/29/2009 3:15:57 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: flash2368

“children raised in clothing optional or nudist environments have fewer hangups and a more positive body image”

An old urban legend. Women who live at the beach tend to have better bodies because they show more of them. The actual nudity doesn’t enhance that. A bikini and nudity have the same effect.

What does happen is the pedophile effect. Pedophiles are drawn to child nudity.


14 posted on 06/29/2009 3:18:39 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: flash2368
Sorry - I raised two kids in a ‘clothing required’ environment and neither one of them have self-esteem issues, are self-conscious about their bodies, and at 19 and 21 years-old, neither one is or has been pregnant.
15 posted on 06/29/2009 3:19:00 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: AppyPappy
From the Globe's reader comment board...

User Image Redheaded_Wonder wrote: I'm struggling with this now. I have young boys, and they shower with me for practical reasons - they are afraid of water, and showering with me is *so* much easier for me, and they cry and scream while taking baths but have fun with a shower. When I grew up, it was "Cover your body!! At all times!!" and God forbid someone ever saw you naked... It was a culture of shame. I don't want my guys to experience this. But where is the line? How long can/should boys shower with their mother? 4? 5? 6? 16? Obviously I have to draw the line somewhere... but where? 6/28/2009 10:52 AM EDT Recommend (34)

16 posted on 06/29/2009 3:22:10 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

You would have some issues at 16.


17 posted on 06/29/2009 3:23:54 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Raised 4 in the same type of environment, including exposure to topless European beaches. None of them were shocked/thrilled by topless - none felt the need to follow suit. None thought ‘nude hiking’ was appealing for all sorts of very good reasons = more than happy to watch the ‘happy dance’ when nude hikers visit New England during the black fly and mosquito season. VERY funny.


18 posted on 06/29/2009 3:24:28 PM PDT by NHResident
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To: AppyPappy
You would have some issues at 16.

The fact that she brings it up tells me she has issues.

19 posted on 06/29/2009 3:25:18 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81
Can a clothing-optional policy teach her young girls to be comfortable as women?

Not if it's chilly.

20 posted on 06/29/2009 3:29:05 PM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
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To: buccaneer81

If she has such a strong desire to show her body, she can show it to me.

Nudity in this Owl’s house has a three word policy: “Hide Your Shame”


21 posted on 06/29/2009 3:29:34 PM PDT by Owl_Eagle (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Bushwacker777
Don't try to inject common sense around here.

L

22 posted on 06/29/2009 3:31:26 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: buccaneer81

I was raised in a very conservative modest environment. Modesty was mandatory. I did not get pregnant, nor did I have “carnal” knowledge before marriage. Why? I knew my Dad would kill me.


23 posted on 06/29/2009 3:32:20 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: buccaneer81

I don’t know about that. How big is her butt?


24 posted on 06/29/2009 3:34:20 PM PDT by Radl (sai)
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To: buccaneer81

she is Guilty..........

of BEING HOT!


25 posted on 06/29/2009 3:34:57 PM PDT by robertwalker62
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To: buccaneer81
You're right! This Jennifer Mattern is NOT GUILTY. She also is not the Jennifer Mattern of the Boston Globe who wrote this piece.

Here's the Jennifer Mattern who wrote the article:


26 posted on 06/29/2009 3:35:20 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: skimbell

Holy crap!


27 posted on 06/29/2009 3:36:14 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: AppyPappy

Eviedence?


28 posted on 06/29/2009 3:37:16 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: flash2368

Does this explain your screen name?


29 posted on 06/29/2009 3:44:36 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: buccaneer81

oh pleeeease have this woman put her clothes back on


30 posted on 06/29/2009 3:45:45 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Mac Conchradha - "Skeagh mac en chroe"- Skaghvicencrowe)
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To: buccaneer81

oh pleeeease have this woman put her clothes back on - what she NEEDS to do is explain WHY human beings wear clothing especially in the bibilical sense.


31 posted on 06/29/2009 3:51:29 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Mac Conchradha - "Skeagh mac en chroe"- Skaghvicencrowe)
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To: AppyPappy

My son made his own time to make sure I didn’t see him while he was changing. Around 7, I think. Probably the time they change from Mom, to Dad, in most things.


32 posted on 06/29/2009 3:52:30 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: Jeff Chandler
...jiggly bits?

I don't know anything about the author, but that turn of phrase sounds British.

33 posted on 06/29/2009 3:53:28 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: buccaneer81

There will come a time when everybody
Who is lonely will be free
To sing & dance & love

There will come a time when every evil
That we know will be an evil
That we can rise above

Who cares if hair is long or short
or sprayed or partly grayed
We know that hair ain’t where it’s at

There will come a time when you won’t
even be ashamed if you are fat!

WAH WAH-WAH WAH

There will come a time when everybody
Who is lonely will be free
To sing & dance & love (dance and love)

There will come a time when every evil
that we know will be an evil
That we can rise above (rise above)

Who cares if you’re so poor you can’t afford
To buy a pair of Mod-a-Go-Go stretch elastic pants
THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN YOU CAN EVEN
TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF WHEN YOU DANCE


34 posted on 06/29/2009 3:54:44 PM PDT by oblomov (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - Mencken)
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To: buccaneer81

I see that the liberals, libertarians, and progressives are outing themselves on this thread.


35 posted on 06/29/2009 4:04:40 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: buccaneer81

So wheres the perfect Can?


36 posted on 06/29/2009 4:08:17 PM PDT by right way right (Do not mistake Religion for God.)
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To: Old Professer

“Does this explain your screen name?”

No.. I was tortured as “Flash Gordon” during my childhood..:o)


37 posted on 06/29/2009 4:17:10 PM PDT by flash2368 (Scary Times)
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To: buccaneer81

Is this what women consider to be one of the pressing issues of the day?


38 posted on 06/29/2009 4:25:55 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Just say "No" to socialism.)
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To: flash2368
I hate to be the bearer of bad news for the modest among us, however children raised in clothing optional or nudist environments have fewer hangups and a more positive body image. More importantly however the “mystery” is removed about the body and the teenage pregnancy rate is practically zip among girls raised in such environments.

I'm going to have to call BS on this, because I remember what it was like to be a teenager, and the urge to have sex had nothing to do with the "mystery" of the body. Hormones don't give a damn if a girl's body is a mystery to you or if you can name every part in alphabetical order. If there is any correlation between nudists and low teenage pregnancy rate, it has nothing to do with the actual casual nudity. For example, did it ever occur to you that the kind of people who would drag their kids to nudist events, or practice open nudity at home for all ages might also be the same kind of people who hand out birth control to their kids like candy? Or who would take their girls to the abortion clinic without hesitation (and never report the pregnancy)?
39 posted on 06/29/2009 4:41:58 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Jeff Chandler

Well, it’s certainly true that up through at least the early 1960s, “respectable” women were routinely packed up like sausages in heavy-duty bras and girdles (some of which came up to the bottom of the bra and went down to the tops of the knees) that made sure that no matter how fat and flabby the real woman underneath, NOTHING “jiggled”. That was pretty insane, but I think the writer of this article has pretty much gone insane on the other end of the spectrum.


40 posted on 06/29/2009 5:00:35 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: NHResident

My wife’s family is from Scandinavia, so she grew up going nude and topless to the beach when they would visit there in summers when she was growing up.

At first, it takes some getting used to going to clothing-optional beaches, but they’re common in Europe and in some of the former European-owned islands in the Carribean. After the first day, you almost forget that everyone around you is not wearing anything.


41 posted on 06/29/2009 5:09:34 PM PDT by Blackacre
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To: NHResident

Nude hikers during bug season? ? ?

Those folks must have thick skins, indeed.


42 posted on 06/29/2009 8:37:20 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: buccaneer81

Bleah. I was a kid in the 60s and 70s and my parents had an occasional casual nudity policy, intended to offer us a certain level of comfort with our bodies and those of others. I always experienced discomfort and a sense of unnaturalness, and unwanted memories and influences intruding into sexuality later. At least one of my brothers was even more distressed, and my parents were not the most extreme of their generation.

My kids haven’t seen anything since they were weaned.


43 posted on 06/29/2009 8:56:41 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: buccaneer81
Clothing optional resorts help niche motels hold their own in down hospitality market. Some resorts have found a way to survive.

Southwest Travel Notes - casting aside the paperwork Spa Resort with more...and nothing at all.
Clothing optional has become a marketing trend in upscale resorts popping up across America . For a growing number of resort goers, the option of checking their clothes at the door has become an attractive way to relax and retreat.

Nestled in the hills of a California desert community and overlooking the Coachella Valley and Palm Springs is Living Waters Spa that has served the clothing optional market for over six years.

By giving its guests the option to stay nude, it is thriving while other area hotels have been pounded by financially challenging times.

Clothing Optional Resort

44 posted on 06/29/2009 9:37:58 PM PDT by gogov
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To: reagan_fanatic

Gimme a box of chablis and a bag of pork cracklins and that would be the perfect romantic evening for me to hit that not-guilty lady. In a respectful, clothing-optional environment, of course.


45 posted on 06/30/2009 10:19:54 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Buy Lots Of Ammo Today: BLOAT)
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To: I Buried My Guns
Oh wait. That is not the lady I was envisioning. She looks like she already ate my bag of cracklins, as well as the rest of the hog.

Alas, this court must find her GUILTY.

46 posted on 06/30/2009 10:24:18 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Buy Lots Of Ammo Today: BLOAT)
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