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MI in talks about California Prisoners
ClickOnDetriot ^ | 06/29/09 | Various

Posted on 06/29/2009 3:27:24 PM PDT by Kieri

LANSING, Mich. -- Empty Michigan prisons could become home to hundreds of California inmates if a deal can be struck.

Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm sent a letter Monday to California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger formally offering space for some of the inmates California is running out of room to house to Michigan.

Download: Ganholm Letter To Schwarzenegger

Michigan plans to close two prisons by the end of September.

They are the Standish Maximum Correctional facility about 145 miles northwest of Detroit and a medium-security prison in Muskegon, about 45 miles northwest of Grand Rapids.

Michigan could save the jobs of about half of the 1,000 prison guards it plans to lay off by Oct. 1 if California accepts the offer.

A request for comment was left with Schwarzenegger's office Monday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: california; corrections; granholm; inmates; michigan; prisoners
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I think I liked it better when Jenny didn't have any ideas.

Isn't this great? We'll go from the "Great Lakes State" to the "Penal Colony"!!

1 posted on 06/29/2009 3:27:24 PM PDT by Kieri
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To: Kieri

Barney Franks to the Rescue Ping!


2 posted on 06/29/2009 3:28:58 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Kieri

“Isn’t this great? We’ll go from the “Great Lakes State” to the “Penal Colony”!!”

the guards will be happy...


3 posted on 06/29/2009 3:29:01 PM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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To: Kieri

Maybe I’m thick, but isn’t the reason Arnold is going to cut the prisoners loose is lack of money?

Is Granholm going to foot the bill for these prisoners or what ?


4 posted on 06/29/2009 3:30:20 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Kieri

Doesn’t she understand that California cannot pay?
They are now running on IOUs.


5 posted on 06/29/2009 3:30:54 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Kieri
So a state with no money is going to take prisoners from a state with less money. When California can't afford to pay for their care, these fine individuals will be come wards of the state of Michigan, or turned loose on the Michigan population.

Many of the prisoners will be California gang bangers. When they move in, their homeys will move nearby to 'keep the faith' with them, visit them, and carry out their orders. Michigan will gain the worst parts of California at the price of a few hundred jobs for as long as California can pay.

When is Michigan going to wise up and toss that Canadian idiot back across the lake?

6 posted on 06/29/2009 3:37:48 PM PDT by GulchBound (Who owns you?)
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To: Kieri

I’m guessing we get all the illegal alien crimminals after Jenny the genius turns all our loose.

Good lord this woman gets dumber by the second.


7 posted on 06/29/2009 3:39:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Kieri

Michigan. The new Australia!


8 posted on 06/29/2009 3:39:44 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: GulchBound
When is Michigan going to wise up and toss that Canadian idiot back across the lake?

Because in Michigan, the inmates are running the asylum.

Literally.

On a bright note, Monica Conyers resigned today. I can see the ticket now -- Conyers/Kilpatrick 2014!

9 posted on 06/29/2009 3:45:07 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Kieri
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10 posted on 06/29/2009 3:49:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Kieri

You’ve go to be kidding.


11 posted on 06/29/2009 3:51:47 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: GulchBound

Granholm got in because she managed to make promise after promise to a welfare constituency. That’s how she got in and stays in.

Hardworking taxpayers are a minority.


12 posted on 06/29/2009 3:53:38 PM PDT by Niuhuru (Anger means your spirit isn't broken)
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To: ElayneJ

LOL We’re also laying off 100 state police because the genius wants to toss a $1 per year lease in a donated building for a $3,000,000 per year lease on a new building.


13 posted on 06/29/2009 3:54:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Niuhuru

Thank God she’s term limited.


14 posted on 06/29/2009 3:55:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

At least we have that. Then hopefully Michigan will come out en masse and vote these liberal worms out.


15 posted on 06/29/2009 3:56:49 PM PDT by Niuhuru (Anger means your spirit isn't broken)
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To: Kieri

Michigan has one of the HIGHEST crime rates in the country, even not counting their government. How can their prisons have vacancy signs?


16 posted on 06/29/2009 3:58:29 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Niuhuru

Some days I just can’t help but laugh at the utter stupidity of Michigan democrats. Fortunately our GOP state reps are starting to stand up and cause trouble in Lansing.

My personal favorite granholm idiocy is wanting to spend stimulus money to print roadsigns to show where stimulus money is being spent.


17 posted on 06/29/2009 4:00:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Kieri
From the linked letter: "We stand ready to provide the details on costs..."

As much as I detest Jenny, if she's negotiating to rent out Michigan prisons, it's not a horrid idea. Of course, Arnold doesn't have any money to pay for this, and the ACLU idiots will try to block this, but still...

18 posted on 06/29/2009 4:01:33 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: cripplecreek

Governor Jennifer Granholm has “laid a strong groundwork for the state’s future, and he’ll be happy to run on the Democratic governor’s record,” - John Cherry, MI Lt. Governor


19 posted on 06/29/2009 4:03:11 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Kieri
After living in MI for two years I can assure all FReepers of one salient fact: Granholm is a moron.
20 posted on 06/29/2009 4:03:24 PM PDT by LiberConservative
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To: Kieri
Fill those empty cots with Detroit gang-bangers and may that once great city will see a renaissance.
21 posted on 06/29/2009 4:05:05 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: NativeNewYorker

The devil is hiding in the details, like who’s going to pay for the cost of transporting all those felons to MI, and back to CA once their out? What if they don’t want to return to CA? How about all the civil rights whiners insisting that their families be accommodated locally for conjugal visits at taxpayer expense?

Ooooooooooh, I don’t want to think about this anymore.


22 posted on 06/29/2009 4:05:10 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Kenny500c
Fill those empty cots with Detroit gang-bangers and may that once great city will see a renaissance.

We don't have enough prison space for that. Heck, all those on the city payroll would max out the prisons.

23 posted on 06/29/2009 4:06:23 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: NativeNewYorker
it's not a horrid idea.

Actually it is. We're still cutting the number of guards creating a dangerous situation on that front. Their families will follow and I suspect a large number of those families are illegal aliens, welfare families or both.
24 posted on 06/29/2009 4:08:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

WHAT??? Who on earth would think that’s a good idea?
I don’t even know what to say -


25 posted on 06/29/2009 4:10:54 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Kieri
I read today that California has the highest cost per inmate per year, in the United States. The California cost is $45,000. If they could pay other states, with empty prisons, about $25,000 for each, it would be a win-win situation.

John / Billybob

26 posted on 06/29/2009 4:11:14 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: ElayneJ

Here’s the state police HQ story. Pure stupidity combined with corruption and an attempt to blame the GOP thrown in for good measure.

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20090620/NEWS01/906200326/1002/NEWS01


27 posted on 06/29/2009 4:15:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: LiberConservative

“After living in MI for two years I can assure all FReepers of one salient fact: Granholm is a moron.”

But she has to be smart - she’s from Harvard.... just like obama, and Kerry, and Bush...oh, wait...:)


28 posted on 06/29/2009 4:15:51 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Kieri

Look on the bright side. Now you’ll have somebody to operate those bulldozers to raze Flint.


29 posted on 06/29/2009 4:16:26 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: cripplecreek

The stupidity of the typical liberal politician never ceases to amaze me. I’m glad she isn’t my governor but given all of the Yankees down here, they would vote for someone like that without question. When things went to hell, be dumbfounded as to why things went to hell.


30 posted on 06/29/2009 4:19:15 PM PDT by wally_bert (My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the link. Wow. Frightening to know she was re-elected.


31 posted on 06/29/2009 4:22:48 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Kieri
Oh, I agree the details matter. But the concept isn't inherently flawed imnsho.

Then again, the odds of Jenny getting the details right are.......zero.

32 posted on 06/29/2009 4:27:30 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: cripplecreek

I have a hard time imagining families migrating from beautiful, sunny Kali to g-dforsaken Michigan. Yes, I’ve been to both. ;)


33 posted on 06/29/2009 4:29:29 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NativeNewYorker

You can have a hard time believing it all you want but it happens. Here in Jackson county we have a growing illegal alien community that visits the prison on every visiting day.

I have a friend who is a gaurd and he had to learn spanish to keep his gravy job of dealing with visitors.


34 posted on 06/29/2009 4:33:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

A clustergrab, for sure.

The deal looks fine to me, sitting in AZ and watching hard-core, illegal alien prisoners being sent from CA to MI. Farther away from me. Those guys are really bad. And they speak with a funny accent. Oh, they kill people, in case you don’t know how violent this bunch is.

Having lived in MI for over 20 years in my youth, I feel sorry for y’all.


35 posted on 06/29/2009 4:37:30 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: cripplecreek

Whoa. Homeboy. I lived in Jackson a few years. Worked at WILX, lived on 1st St. Work (studio) was less than a mile from Cooper St, so we got escaped prisoner notices on the door regularly.


36 posted on 06/29/2009 4:43:51 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

My grandmother lived by the dump on the corner of Seymore and Rosehill I think it was. Kitty corner from the golf course. She saw plenty of action too at times.


37 posted on 06/29/2009 4:50:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

FR is how I learn what’s going on in “real” America. That’s depressing.


38 posted on 06/29/2009 4:50:19 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Actually I think its easier for the welfare cases to follow an incarcerated relative. As I understand it they claim hardship and get a fast track through the system.


39 posted on 06/29/2009 4:52:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

Jackson was always a little...difficult...at times. A good town, but very hard on those who have lived there their whole lives. I so miss some of those I knew.


41 posted on 06/29/2009 4:58:12 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: ASA Vet

How long can they tread water?


42 posted on 06/29/2009 5:01:15 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: Kieri

Maybe they should start giving the Detroit thugs jail time instead of probation.......


43 posted on 06/29/2009 5:03:27 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun in an Indy car....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I’ve never lived in jackson but I’ve lived all over the county. I grew up in hanover but lived out by waterloo and now live near Napoleon.


44 posted on 06/29/2009 5:04:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I read today that California has the highest cost per inmate per year, in the United States. The California cost is $45,000. If they could pay other states, with empty prisons, about $25,000 for each, it would be a win-win situation.

Except our dear governor is RELEASING prisoners because of our huge budget hole and 14.1% unemployment rate. She's also decided to lay off 100 brand new state police officers fresh out of the academy.

Putting Club Gitmo terrorists in the frozen UP is one thing. Taking California's trash is another.

45 posted on 06/29/2009 5:05:05 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: cripplecreek
Actually I think its easier for the welfare cases to follow an incarcerated relative. As I understand it they claim hardship and get a fast track through the system.

You mean we'll have to hire even more than the 200 "temporary" food stamp workers about to undergo state training? Wonderful. We don't have time limits, either. Why should they go back to the west coast when there's less competition for benefits here?

46 posted on 06/29/2009 5:08:52 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Kieri

......like who’s going to pay for the cost of transporting all those felons to MI.....

Simple..... they will ride empty Amtrack trains for free


47 posted on 06/29/2009 5:15:41 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war in Detriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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To: cripplecreek

so things are way way worse than i thought.


48 posted on 06/29/2009 6:03:11 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: cripplecreek

She doesn’t really help the ‘dumb blonde’ stereotypes. I like to think that after this, the Rpeublicans will have an easy tinme of it as long as they don’t mess it up with this infighting.


49 posted on 06/30/2009 7:58:40 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Anger means your spirit isn't broken)
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To: Niuhuru

I think we really only have two potential GOP candidates for governor so that will work in our favor too.


50 posted on 06/30/2009 8:00:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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