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A 'COUP' TO PROTECT A CONSTITUTION: HONDURAS OUSTS A ROGUE PRESIDENT
NYPost ^ | June 30, 2009 | Ray Walser

Posted on 06/30/2009 3:17:28 AM PDT by Scanian

ON Sunday, the citizens of Honduras woke up with one president and went to bed with an other. Manuel Zelaya was forced out of the country -- replaced, with full backing from the Congress, the nation's courts, and its military with Interim President Robert Micheletti.

Some have denounced this dramatic change as a "coup d'etat" and an assault on democracy. In truth, it was much more of a last-ditch effort to protect Honduras' constitutional order and rule of law from a reckless populist.

Honduras and the United States have a long history of friendly relations. We signed a free-trade treaty in 2005; Honduras was an early contributor to Operation Iraqi Freedom.

But relations chilled, and chilled hard, after Zelaya won election nearly four years ago.

Zelaya sees Venezuela's Hugo Chavez and Cuba's Fidel Castro as beacons for the future. As president, he tried to steer Honduras hard left -- but succeeded mainly in boosting corruption and cronyism. The independent monitors at Transparency International now give Honduras the same ranking for corruption as Libya and Ethiopia.

Honduras is a poor nation, and got worse on Zelaya's watch. But rather than blame the global downturn or his own failures, Zelaya sought to rally the masses behind him by fingering the nation's elites as behind the nation's woes.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: castro; chavez; honduras; leftists; micheletti; zelaya

1 posted on 06/30/2009 3:17:29 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Castro, Chavez, Obama. Three blind mice with far too much power.


2 posted on 06/30/2009 3:21:57 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Scanian

Let’s see. Venezuela is angry at Colombia and Honduras. I wonder if we might see some sort of Pan Latin-American war brewing.


3 posted on 06/30/2009 3:24:47 AM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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To: Hawk1976

If there is a war, I think Obama will join with the forces which intend to crush freedom. Socialism must march on!


4 posted on 06/30/2009 3:26:50 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
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To: Scanian
A 'COUP' TO PROTECT A CONSTITUTION: HONDURAS OUSTS A ROGUE PRESIDENT

Wonder if we could do the same thing here.

5 posted on 06/30/2009 3:27:35 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Hawk1976

VZ is “angry” because with them it wants to take them over. Hugo doesn’t have enough money at home, but he has plenty of money to go around stirring up trouble throughout Latin America; and of course, he has the assistance of his closest national partner, Iran, in doing this.

My fear is that Bambi, who would actually be Hugo’s closest partner if he dared come out and say it, will try to put the heat on Honduras to take back the Hugo-supporting Commie who was trying to stage an auto-golpe (self-coup, where a leader who was originally elected puts himself in power permanently and gives himself more powers). We have a base in Honduras, and I hope Bambi doesn’t even think about sending our troops out to enforce Chavez’ will.

Or if he does, I hope the commander refuses, just as the Honduran did.


6 posted on 06/30/2009 3:33:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: Scanian

President Obama took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. Honduras is a sovereign country, but I would have at least expected him to speak up in support of the constitution of a close friend of the US and one in our own hemisphere. His support of a rogue president who attempted to subvert the laws of the nation over the objections of both the legislature and the judiciary (checks and balances don’t matter?) is a shameful and craven attempt to curry favor in mostly leftist Latin America. Obama’s weakness on this issue is especially dangerous, since the enemies of democracy are watching and taking notes.


7 posted on 06/30/2009 3:35:58 AM PDT by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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To: Scanian

It would be interesting to see this happen Here in 2012 Obama refuses to leave and the Headline on the Evening news would be ,Celebrating the death of Michael Jackson and everyone would go on a Candle light Vigil and no one would care


8 posted on 06/30/2009 3:36:14 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Bulldawg Fan

If we could only get the military, the courts and congress to get rid of the Kenyan and ship him out on a plane to Zimbabwe all would be well.

Oh, I forgot the congress and half the courts need to be shipped out too.


9 posted on 06/30/2009 3:37:25 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: Apparatchik

Yes, meddle in Honduras, but no meddling in Iran. A person’s actions speak louder than their words.


10 posted on 06/30/2009 3:41:40 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: P8riot
I don't see why not. Think about it. The military took an oath to “support and defend the Constitution against all enemies; foreign and domestic.” Sound like a possibility to this old soldier. What is needed is a leader. Ummmm???leader???Do we have any of those these days?
11 posted on 06/30/2009 3:43:35 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Scanian

12 posted on 06/30/2009 3:47:16 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: Apparatchik
“Coups come in threes”, oh that's celebrity deaths, one can wish.
13 posted on 06/30/2009 3:49:52 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - MARSOC DAD)
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To: mosaicwolf
leader???Do we have any of those these days?

We have one potentially strong woman (and maybe a couple guys in the game) but Sarah is still unproven and busy governing Alaska.

So the short answer is no. We conservatives don't have a leader these days.

14 posted on 06/30/2009 3:50:18 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
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To: P8riot

Our congress critters would not be supportive.


15 posted on 06/30/2009 3:52:18 AM PDT by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Somehow what's happening in Iran is an internal thing, while Honduras is an attack on democracy.

So says, Zero, Chavez, Castro and other communists.

16 posted on 06/30/2009 3:55:05 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - MARSOC DAD)
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To: Scanian

ON Sunday, the citizens of Honduras woke up with one president and went to bed with an other. Manuel Zelaya was forced out of the country — replaced, with full backing from the Congress, the nation’s courts, and its military with Interim President Robert Micheletti.

Can we do that here?


17 posted on 06/30/2009 3:55:16 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: paulycy

Honduras had a Supreme Court. We have nothing. Our Supreme Court sold out when they refused to see the Birth certificate of the Kenyan, Fear of black riots trumped the legality of our election.

Now we have our country being sold down the river by Globalists and Socialists and Representatives that dont Represent anything but their own power and greed.

We MUST take back America in 2010 .


18 posted on 06/30/2009 3:57:20 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Scanian
As president, he tried to steer Honduras hard left -- but succeeded mainly in boosting corruption and cronyism

Whaddya mean 'but'?

Corruption and cronyism is what the left is about.

19 posted on 06/30/2009 3:58:14 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Scanian

And people here don’t care what is happening here in America.

Who’d a thunk, fascism in America.


20 posted on 06/30/2009 4:12:20 AM PDT by stockpirate (Obama, King of the Fascists of the United Fascist States of America, )UFSA)
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To: ballplayer
It would be interesting to see this happen Here in 2012

Why wait so long?

I'm just sayin'...
21 posted on 06/30/2009 4:17:11 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Scanian

Finally! A major newspaper gets the story right.

Judging from the mobs shown in pictures, this dust-up is the usual Indians vs Europeans struggle in Central America.


22 posted on 06/30/2009 4:19:29 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Apparatchik
"His support of a rogue president who attempted to subvert the laws of the nation over the objections of both the legislature and the judiciary (checks and balances don’t matter?) is a shameful and craven attempt to curry favor in mostly leftist Latin America."

Not to mention giving uncomfortable hints of things to come in this country...

23 posted on 06/30/2009 4:21:00 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Scanian

US military, are you listening?


24 posted on 06/30/2009 4:21:09 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Venturer
We MUST take back America in 2010

I agree in principle, it will be tough though. Of course we're FReepers so we don't mind that.

25 posted on 06/30/2009 4:22:28 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
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To: P8riot
Wonder if we could do the same thing here.

No. If we get rid of Obama then it will be through Constitutional means. I'm not condemning the Honduran actions, merely saying that it is not an appropriate solution here.

26 posted on 06/30/2009 4:23:35 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: snowrip
US military, are you listening?

They'd have to take out the thug's accomplices in Congress also.
27 posted on 06/30/2009 4:29:11 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Scanian
Osama tries to save an ally in Zalaya.


28 posted on 06/30/2009 4:30:26 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ABC-AP-MSNBC-All Obama, All the time.)
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To: Scanian

Obama is probably terrified of a similar scenario here in the good old USA. I wonder if our top commanders have the sand to execute an operation to compel Obamba to produce his birth certificate.


29 posted on 06/30/2009 4:34:24 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: P8riot
Wonder if we could do the same thing here.

I was hoping....
....But our military is infected with the same big-government bureaucratic mindset.

30 posted on 06/30/2009 5:06:27 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: Scanian

Zelaya sees Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez and Cuba’s Fidel Castro as beacons for the future. As president, he tried to steer Honduras hard left — but succeeded mainly in boosting corruption and cronyism.

Substitute Obama and US in this paragraph and it’s still 100% accurate.


31 posted on 06/30/2009 5:10:55 AM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: Scanian

I wonder if Obama had trouble sleeping last night, thinking about this?


32 posted on 06/30/2009 5:11:42 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: Scanian

bkmk


33 posted on 06/30/2009 5:12:04 AM PDT by novemberslady
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Hmmm. Military stepping in to remove a president who is bent on trashing the constitution. No wonder Zero is terrified of this development. Can’t let this sort of thing spread, you know.


34 posted on 06/30/2009 5:14:15 AM PDT by Spartan79
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To: Scanian

ACORN and OBAMA will be bringing one of these to America.

Excuse me??

Oh, that’s right!

Sorry — they ALREADY HAVE.

Sorta explains Obambi’s anger that Zeyala was sent packing, doesn’t it?


35 posted on 06/30/2009 7:25:40 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (HE)
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To: Non-Sequitur

The Hondurans did use Constitutional means. Are you ever right about anything?


36 posted on 06/30/2009 1:22:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye
The Hondurans did use Constitutional means. Are you ever right about anything?

Usually. Unless you can point out to me where OUR Constitution allows for the military to force the president from office as the Honduran's did?

37 posted on 06/30/2009 1:46:12 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

The military in Honduras did not force Zelaya out so that point is moot. Educate yourself.


38 posted on 06/30/2009 1:53:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye
The military in Honduras did not force Zelaya out so that point is moot. Educate yourself.

Just walked out on his own, huh? In any case, you would do well to follow the threads and understand the whole conversation before jumping in.

39 posted on 06/30/2009 2:05:23 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
I have read every article on this list and every comment on every one of those threads. If you had read even a couple of them you would know that the military acted on orders from the SC and they were acting on a resolution from the congress. Your ignorance is amazing. But consistent as most FReepers know.
40 posted on 06/30/2009 2:54:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Scanian

BTTT!


41 posted on 06/30/2009 6:56:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Scanian
As president, he tried to steer Honduras hard left -- but succeeded mainly in boosting corruption and cronyism.

A beacon for our aspiring boy president and his entire party. Senator Byrd sheds a tear. Jack Murtha proposes naming an airport after him.

42 posted on 06/30/2009 10:45:01 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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