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From The Birthers, With Love! (Right Wing News mocks those who refuse to Kneepad for Obama)
RWN ^ | 7/1/09 | John Hawkins

Posted on 07/01/2009 1:48:51 PM PDT by pissant

Whether it's smacking down 9/11 conspiracy theories, the North American Union, or the Birthers, the freaks really come out at night when you start poking holes in their theories.

In all fairness to the Birthers, I understand that there are intelligent people of good will, who simply don't see eye to eye with me on whether Obama was born in the United States. Sometimes people, even people on the same side who see most issues the same way, just have to agree to disagree.

However, the kookier Birthers, I do have to make fun of -- just a little bit. There were 543 comments on my Townhall piece, 3 Reasons To Stop Obsessing Over Obama's Birth Certificate column, but this email that I received this morning may top them all in the entertaining looniness department (Emphasis in the original).

********* Mr. Dawkins -

I am a Massachusetts teacher who wants my students to know the truth. I respect Gregg Jackson because he has the moral courage to stand up for the truth no matter where it leads. Tragically, doing so cost him his job as a talk-show host at Salem radio.

It is fair to ask you, Mr. Dawkins, if TownHall or any other organizations with whom you are associated have you under some kind of gag order.

In other words, is your job in jeopardy if you come out on the side of truth?

I suppose it IS possible that you really do believe that "image" on the internet is a real, authentic birth certificate. But it's more likely that you are not that stupid. After all, seventh and eighth graders at my school are smart enough

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Well, Mr Hawkins, let's get a resolution passed in congress to make his birth home a National Historical Site. Surely you can support that for our first 1/2 white, communist president.
1 posted on 07/01/2009 1:48:51 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Does Congress have authority of Kenyan grass huts?

2 posted on 07/01/2009 1:51:03 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: pissant

Mocking is a liberal tactic.

3 posted on 07/01/2009 1:51:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m embarrassed for him to have written such a weak argument yesterday on the topic.

4 posted on 07/01/2009 1:52:14 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party:
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To: pissant

It was just a simple minded rehash of the same tired old crap.

5 posted on 07/01/2009 1:53:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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I can't remember a time when self-professed conservatives were more willing to carry the left's water.  And when did they choose to do it?  Why when we have a ruthless power grabbing fascist Muslim terrorist loving & facilitating idiot stick in there.  Yep, just rip those birthers a new asshole will ya.  I know that's my top prioroty right now.  /s

Someone gave this idiot a keyboard, but it evidently didn't come with a user's warning....

The following is directed to all Freepers in general.

Some Freepers see everything through a red, white, and blue filter.  Lets prove right now how many of us do.  1% of the Freepathon total has been reached.

Do the deed.  Click those smiling faces right now.  Spread the word...

6 posted on 07/01/2009 1:56:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_res__ent of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Hawkins

Find swift redemption. Take the easy way out.

7 posted on 07/01/2009 1:59:56 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: pissant

I agree with you. the chosen one can end it all very quickly but he instyead chooses to fight anyone or anything that tries to ferret out anything having to do with his BC. Things that make you go hmmmmm...

8 posted on 07/01/2009 2:00:11 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: pissant


9 posted on 07/01/2009 2:00:55 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: pissant

The One was not naturally born, but immaculately conceived!

10 posted on 07/01/2009 2:04:48 PM PDT by DaveyB (A government's ability to give is proportionate to their power to take away!)
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To: vpintheak
Things that make you go hmmmmm...

As long as it keeps making you go hmmmmm, it's a win for Obama. If it ever starts making the sheeple go hmmmmm, expect a quick resolution.

At this point, the Supremes are powerless. If it were indeed shown he's ineligible, it would be up to Congress to remove him. The only way they'd do that is enough sheeple are going hmmmmm to make them question their reelection prospects if they don't remove him.

11 posted on 07/01/2009 2:05:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: pissant
who simply don't see eye to eye with me on whether Obama was born in the United States

Apparently Mr. Dawkins feels that "geography" trumps "clear allegiance" as definitive of "natural born citizen". Seeing as how children born in the United States of non-citizen parents had to litigate all the way to the Supreme Court even to be recognized as "citizens", and not "natural born citizens" at that, Mr. Dawkins' ignorance of U.S. history is apparent. If Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, or Vladimir Putin, or Saddam Hussein fathers a child on U.S. soil ... that child is not eligible to be our President ... and for good reason. This nation ought not toss the Founders' protections aside for the sake of a minority of racists who desire an ethnic President in the White House at any cost.
12 posted on 07/01/2009 2:06:57 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Mocking is a liberal tactic.

Then why do so many birthers engage in mocking?

13 posted on 07/01/2009 2:09:37 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Who’s mocking you?

14 posted on 07/01/2009 2:11:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: EveningStar

I don’t mock, I bitchslap.

15 posted on 07/01/2009 2:11:39 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party:
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To: Rodebrecht
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"

Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.

Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”(Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually.)

Here is the problem with fighthesmears narrative: We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born. British law at the time of obama's birth only gave citizenship from the father to the son in the case that the father is married to the mother:ie the son is legitimate. See wikipedia 2.4.3Since obama's parents were NOT married -- how did obama get his British/Kenyancitizenship? Its not unreasonable to think that he got his British/Kenyan because he was born there--and not because of his parentage. Interestingly, recently both WorldNetDaily and DailyKos have reported that a copy of Obamas Kenyan Birth Certificate is on sale at ebay by an accredited seller. For more google references to the seller see colmado_naranja Once again, Just one piece of evidence could easily be dismissed. It is the accumulation of evidence that is troubling.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?

A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. On top of that according to the LA Times since the election -- the Kenyans feel that Obama has gone out of his way to snub/ignore/distance-himself them. The Kenyans are putting up reasons like perhaps they are insufficiently perfected for him to notice them--but here in the USA we have seen Obama throw a number of embarrasing people from his past under the bus. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

The thing has become a joke in washington. Joe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.

After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "

From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.

Les Kinsolving asked the Presidential Press Secretary Gibbs to release the long form birth certificate. The press secretary suggested mockingly that the copy of the short form birth certificate supplied online is Obama's long form birth certificate. Not so. See the press conference out take here.

The White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts. Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates." Even the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".
16 posted on 07/01/2009 2:13:18 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: pissant
(Right Wing News mocks those who refuse to Kneepad for Obama go on wild goose chases)


17 posted on 07/01/2009 2:14:33 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Rodebrecht
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.

Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:


Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.


Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.

Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The American Thinker explains here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this: Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.

of note

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]


303 #

Obama's Senate efforts to airbrush his past were augmented by his top Intelligence Advisor in March 2008. Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach. Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March [2008] for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July. The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies. During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation. Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information.
18 posted on 07/01/2009 2:15:04 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: EveningStar

You’ve chased nothing. But rather you hang around biting ankles of those who know Obama is a lying POS.

19 posted on 07/01/2009 2:16:45 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party:
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To: pissant
Everybody knows Biden is behind this BC stuff.

Kneepadding for Joe are we?

20 posted on 07/01/2009 2:19:04 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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