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Nuns In The U.S. Are Facing Scrutiny By The Vatican [Long Overdue!]
NYTimes ^
| July 01st, 2009
Posted on 07/01/2009 8:49:55 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: divine_moment_of_facts
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posted on
07/01/2009 9:22:39 PM PDT
by
redhead
(Obama: Lame Duck in 2010. Check out the Half-baked Sourdough! (shameless blog plug!))
To: Steelfish
Some sisters surmise that the Vatican and even some American bishops are trying to shift them back into living in convents, wearing habits or at least identifiable religious garb, ordering their schedules around daily prayers and working primarily in Roman Catholic institutions, like schools and hospitals.
Uh, you know, doing the things that nuns are supposed to do. Since when did agitating for "social justice", walking a labyrinth, or dressing like a frumpy dude constitute what it meant to be a nun?
Of course, the Vatican knows full well that those orders who embrace traditional gender rules, wear habits, (gasp!) pray the rosary, go to confession, live in convents, etc. are the ones that are growing. The Sisters of the Stupid Enneagram are dying out quicker than one-winged sparrows.
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posted on
07/01/2009 9:24:44 PM PDT
by
Antoninus
(Queer is boring.)
To: this_ol_patriot
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posted on
07/01/2009 9:28:00 PM PDT
by
redhead
(Obama: Lame Duck in 2010. Check out the Half-baked Sourdough! (shameless blog plug!))
To: Steelfish
Why are they nuns, if they don’t like the conditions? Of course, if they signed on in the last 30 years, they were probably assuming the progressive trend would continue. Perhaps a compromise is called for. For example, the order could have their habits designed by some well-known designer like Isaac Mizrahi or someone.
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posted on
07/01/2009 9:28:08 PM PDT
by
giotto
To: Steelfish
working primarily in Roman Catholic institutions, like schools and hospitals.Wow, what a concept, Catholic nuns working in Catholic institutions.
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posted on
07/01/2009 9:37:55 PM PDT
by
tiki
(True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
To: WSGilcrest; Saint Athanasius
Sister Sandra M. Schneiders has urged fellow nuns not to participate... They should start the cull with her...
26
posted on
07/01/2009 9:38:58 PM PDT
by
rhinohunter
(Want to REALLY see the left TOTALLY meltdown??? (Cheney - Palin '12))
To: steve86
"There is no area where Vatican II did not do catastrophic damage." Horse manure.
27
posted on
07/01/2009 9:43:30 PM PDT
by
DaGman
To: DaGman
28
posted on
07/01/2009 10:05:06 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
To: redhead
29
posted on
07/01/2009 10:10:23 PM PDT
by
this_ol_patriot
(I saw manbearpig and all I got was this lousy tagline.)
To: Steelfish
Pencils out, Freepers!
Dot #1:
But for the last three decades, their numbers have been declining to 60,000 today from 180,000 in 1965.
Dot #2:
In the last four decades since the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, many American nuns stopped wearing religious habits, left convents to live independently and went into new lines of work
None so blind as those who will not see.
To: Steelfish
The Vatican won't have that many, in the questionable orders, to investigate. Those orders are dying out because they haven't been able to attract novices over the last 15 years or so. Why would any devout young woman want to pledge her life to a religious order that doesn't believe in Jesus or the Gospels anymore? That's about the state of most religious orders for women in the US.
The ONLY orders that have grown in the last 15 years are those that haven't gone the feminist route, and are faithful to the teachings of Jesus and His Church.
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posted on
07/01/2009 11:08:55 PM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: Steelfish
Briggs said of the various investigations: For some in the leadership circles in Rome and elsewhere, its a piece of unfinished business. Its an effort to bring about a re-establishment of a very traditional, very conservative set of standards for what convent life is supposed to be.
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posted on
07/01/2009 11:28:19 PM PDT
by
iowamark
(certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
To: Steelfish
They should start with every Catholic school where a Nun is the Principal. My sister (by birth, not a nun) teaches religion at a Catholic High School. She often has conflicts with her Principal because the nun is so obviously liberal and does not adhere to Catholic doctrine and teachings especially regarding current events and morality. It frustrates the “bejezus” out of my sister who is very spiritual and has a Master’s in Theology (with more education and more knowledge of Catholocism than the Principal). But...she had the same situation at two previous Catholic schools over the years where the Principals and other nuns lived in their unreal worlds also.
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posted on
07/02/2009 12:47:07 AM PDT
by
CitizenM
("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
To: Steelfish
It’s probably too late to ask Sally Field to take over the convents, right?
34
posted on
07/02/2009 1:41:37 AM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: Jeff Chandler
LOL, I haven’t heard that name in awhile.
35
posted on
07/02/2009 2:06:38 AM PDT
by
Straight Vermonter
(Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
To: Steelfish
"Some sisters surmise that the Vatican and even some American bishops are trying to shift them back into living in convents, wearing habits or at least identifiable religious garb, ordering their schedules around daily prayers and working primarily in Roman Catholic institutions, like schools and hospitals."As far as I'm concerned, that's the way it should be. Why become a nun in the first place? Prayer SHOULD be a major part of their life! And it's nice to see a nun that LOOKS like a nun!
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posted on
07/02/2009 2:45:53 AM PDT
by
sneakers
( NO AMERICAN BOWS TO ROYALTY - From president to ditch digger - NO AMERICAN BOWS! "Jim")
To: Mrs. Don-o
Ping!
May this Pope live a hundred (more) years!
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posted on
07/02/2009 2:51:36 AM PDT
by
don-o
(My son, Ben - Marine PFC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island - LC -6/4/09 - 29 Palms - Camp Pendleton 6/18)
To: divine_moment_of_facts
I worked with a young man whose mom was a former nun. She left the convent because it wasn’t “progressive enough”. The life of a nun is to live in humility and be a handmaiden of the Lord, not “I am woman hear me roar”. I later found out this guy’s mom was also a looney liberal.
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posted on
07/02/2009 5:59:57 AM PDT
by
LottieDah
(If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
To: Jeff Chandler
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posted on
07/02/2009 6:39:28 AM PDT
by
rogator
To: WSGilcrest
There's the problem right there. Sorry, sister. It doesn't work like that.Correct. Also notice this about 'Sister':
They think of us as an ecclesiastical work force, said Sister Sandra M. Schneiders, professor emerita of New Testament and spirituality at the Jesuit School of Theology at Berkeley, in California.
Paging Pope Benedict XVI. time to schedule another meeting with that schismatic order of Jesuits
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