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Liberals: Are They Born That Way? (& besides Pelosi, why do they suck at making a profit?)
Rush Limbaugh .com ^ | 7/01/09 | The Maha

Posted on 07/01/2009 9:12:15 PM PDT by Libloather

Liberals: Are They Born That Way?
July 1, 2009

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RUSH: I gotta deal with something here. August 1st will be 21 years. And for about 20 of these -- maybe 21 of the 21 and-a-half years, there hasn't been a day go by that I haven't been asked, "Rush, why are liberals the way they are?" Now, you take a look at the Supreme Court decision on the Ricci case, the firefighters in New Haven, four human beings, four Americans saw no discrimination against the white firefighters in the case when it was obvious. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, writing for the minority, said, "While the firefighters deserve our sympathy --" no, they don't. They deserve justice and equality before the law, Madam Justice. How could four human beings look at the details of that case and not find it outrageously un-American wrong? But they did, four of them, four of the nine. F. Scott Fitzgerald said, "The rich are different." That needs to be updated. Liberals are different. We do not know how they think. We attach our own rationality and common sense to our analysis of what they do and we continually are befuddled.

I think it's time to ask the question, just as many people have puzzled over the origins of homosexuality, people have been puzzling over this. The question is still asked, "Do these people choose that or are they born this way?" I think we need to ask the same question of liberals. Are they born that way, or do they choose it? Because there's no rational explanation for it other than it's easy. All you gotta do is see some suffering and say that you care and think other people should do something about it and you are liberal. And it gets even worse when you start telling other people how to live their lives. Part and parcel of liberalism is having elements of this country that you just despise, you think are unjust and immoral, have to be changed. But mostly you don't have to think, you just have to feel, we all feel, except certain men. (interruption) You can't believe I said what? See, you just want me to ask it again, that's all you're doing. Snerdley is expressing mock shock that I would ask the question like he could not have heard it the first time. All right, in case the people at Media Matters and MSNBC missed it, here it is again. We need to ask a very important question about liberals. Were they born that way, or do they choose it?

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RUSH: James in Indianapolis. Let's go back to the phones. Thank you for calling, sir. It's nice to have you here on the EIB Network.

CALLER: It's a pleasure, Rush. Nice to be with you.

RUSH: Thank you.

CALLER: First-time caller.

RUSH: Welcome here. Great to have you with us.

CALLER: I'm basically wanted to comment on the question you posed: "Is liberalism a born or is it a learned trait?"

RUSH: Chosen.

CALLER: Chosen, yeah.

RUSH: Born versus chosen.

CALLER: Yeah. I'm on the from-birth side, and the reason, I guess, I am is because it's kind of like your -- and pardon the example, but -- religious choices pass down from family member to family member due to what you're taught as a young child.

RUSH: I understand your thinking on this. But when I say "born with it," I mean --

CALLER: I totally get what you mean...

RUSH: -- genetic.

CALLER: Like totally born with unchanged?

RUSH: You were not born innocent and your parents pollute you one way or the other. You're born with it, genetic. I have to ask myself: "Why in the hell would people choose to be liberals?"

CALLER: I understand. And us liberals I guess would choose -- or say the comment, "Why would someone choose to be conservative?" Que sera. But I was telling your screener, as long as I can remember, though, as a child -- and not necessarily from all my parental guidance or things like that -- I've always felt a equal or a fairness from man to man, from gender to gender, from race to race, in terms of things like education and --

RUSH: Right.

CALLER: -- job and things like that. So as far as I can remember, it's something I've always had with me from birth.

RUSH: Yeah, I believe you.

CALLER: But, yeah. It is.

RUSH: Totally believe you. See, it doesn't matter to you that there's no such thing as equality or fairness in terms of outcomes. It's just not possible. We're all different. But that doesn't compute with you because... (interruption) No, I'm not arguing. He said that's what he believes. It's not possible for everybody to be treated fairly or equal in terms of outcomes. Before the law, yeah -- and that doesn't even happen. Ask the firefighters in New Haven. Thanks to a bunch of liberals.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; liberals; pelosi; profit; psychology; rush; suck; talkradio
I do not enjoy spending other people's money. Maybe that's the difference.
1 posted on 07/01/2009 9:12:15 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Rush nails this one. This isn’t about converting peoples’ minds, it’s about winning an ideological Civil War.


2 posted on 07/01/2009 9:15:39 PM PDT by Carling ("We've lost two people in my family because you dickheads won't cut trees down," - Warwick Spooner)
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To: Libloather

I can’t stand liberals, but I won’t say they suck at making a profit. Look at Corzine and Lautenberg.


3 posted on 07/01/2009 9:27:34 PM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: Libloather

Spending 13 years being indoctrinated in the Marxist, atheistic, government K12 schools followed by 4 or more years in college...well...is any surprise?

By the way, the only conservatives I know under 40 have been those who have mugged by reality. The rest cling to their government K-12 indoctrination.


4 posted on 07/01/2009 9:41:14 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: sig226

Liberalism is hypocrisy. The thing about liberals is that they believe that everyone but they are screwed up; therefore, everyone but they have to be controlled. It’s only other people who have to follow the rules that they set up. Liberals are much too self aware and empathetic to have to follow the rules everyone else has to follow....


5 posted on 07/01/2009 9:52:16 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: freebilly
I really have to disagree with your comment. Many of the liberals I've known are actually extremely hateful and repulsive people. It's not that they're atheists. They hate religious people. They don't believe in sharing wealth. They hate successful people. They're projecting. They view themselves as moral washouts, so anyone who believes in God must be a hypocrite. They perceive their lives as worthless, so they have to destroy anyone who succeeds.

The most common comment from liberals at the gun store was, “Nobody should have a gun. If I had a gun, I'd kill people.” While the rest of the conservatives would inch away from the speaker (it happened fairly often) I would look them in the eye and tell to think about what they just said, because they're the reason I own guns.

6 posted on 07/01/2009 10:16:50 PM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: Libloather
"Do these people choose that or are they born this way?"

If I may, Maharushie....

My own life experience and personal observation is that people are forcibly indoctrinated into liberalism. They aren't born thinking that way, and they do not choose that philosophy on their own self-determinism.

Liberalism goes against the grain of innate human survival instincts, and must be pounded in and sold as a survival viewpoint.

A person growing up, and making their way in a natural, aboriginal society would never make any survival decision from a liberal viewpoint. It would be contra-survival to do so, because

1. Liberalism demands that the individual turn over their personal sovereignty to the group, and

2. Forces the individual to produce for the survival of others, with no guarantee of recompense or exchange.

Neither of these concepts is native to human reason and logic, therefore a person must be fooled into believing that they're pro-survival ideas.

7 posted on 07/01/2009 10:19:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Libloather

RUSH clearly analyzes the difficult problem and comes to the elegantly clear, 100% correct and succint conclusion!!

Liberaism is a serious mental disease! just as Homsexuality is!! WE should initiate a huge Federal Program with Grand Agencies to treat this serious and often terminal disease of Liberalism along with Homosexuality in the same way as Liberals have forced the cold turkey cures of smokers and other tobacco users!!
They should be forced to stop their damaging intellectual, cultural, and sexul behavior in all private and public areas with the exception o outdoors where the freah air protects innocent people from the second hand pollution of their byproducts just as with smokers being isolated to outdoor pens and cells at the bidding of those same Libtards! :-) /sarq?/


8 posted on 07/01/2009 10:26:28 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (GOD BLESS AMERICA and Our Last Great President George W. Bush)
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To: Libloather

Yes, liberals are born that way. It is a congenital problem.

Conservatives tend to think linearly: “If this, then this.”; “Here is what was attempted, here are the results.”; “Based on experience, this works and this does not work.” Etc.

Liberals do not think that way. Liberals, thanks mainly to their congenital insecurity, are easily conned and manipulated. They are relentlessly unwilling to admit when they are wrong. (Their bizarre obsession with attempting to elicit “apologies” from Republican officials is an offshoot of their strained thought processes, but that’s another topic for another day.)

Liberals, when confronted with bare-bones truth that challenges their world view, will scrunch their eyes shut, shake their heads, and chant “nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah” until whatever truth it is they find offensive “goes away”. They simply do not have the capacity to revise their thoughts and beliefs to conform to the truth before their very eyes if that truth contradicts the foundation of beliefs they hold onto as a weapon in their constant struggle against their own irrational insecurity.

Certainly, there are notable exceptions such as David Horowitz, PJ O’Rourke, Bernie Goldberg, and others who were smart enough to lift themselves out of the mire of self-loathing liberalism, but these folks are, unfortunately, rare exceptions.

Being an unabashed liberal is a matter of character (or more accurately, lack of character). Liberals are generally humorless and bitter becasue, see, everybody else is (richer, happier, luckier, fill-in-the-blank) than they deserve to be, and something about that is just not “fair”. Liberals are always “victims”, or malcontents, or simply that guilt-ridden subset of white liberals who feel that their own good fortune (and by extension the good fortune of others) is somehow undeserved.

Interestingly, true liberals are often physically slow and unathletic. They have no interest in competetive sports, especially team sports. “Competetive sports” is, in fact, very much an alien concept to them. To be blunt, true liberals (genuine socialists) are almost always clumsy oafs.

Additionally, true liberals are humorless. Seething anger causes an entrenched bitterness that defines them. The evidence of this abounds and can be seen on certain TV stations every day. They have no Rush Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter or Mark Steyn or Howie Carr. They have Keith Olbemann and Michael Moore and Helen Thomas.... True liberals really don’t “get” jokes, even if they chuckle as though they do. (Test this for yourself - - try to tell a liberal a joke. For additonal laughs, ask the liberal if he/she/it has a good joke.)

Liberals can appear to be normal people and are often able to handle their jobs and academic endeavors competently. They can usually fake normal socialization with other people, even if their self-centeredness prevents them from ever establishing true friendships.

But it is sociopathic selfishness that is the most troubling thing about liberals. They see absolutely no problem in walking into the polling place on election day and voting for big government to confiscate more money - - from their NEIGHBORS. Normal people would view this behavior as boorish and rude, but liberals convince themselves that they are somehow accomplishing something; perhaps the exercise soothes their irrational guilt under the tragic misbelief that they are “helping” others (using other people’s money, of course), notably, “the poor”.

Apparently, voting for big thuggish government to take more money FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS and make that money available to Democrat politicians who then use it to buy the votes of society’s losers, bums, and parasites makes liberals feel good about themselves. (Don’t ask me about this mindset - - figuring out liberals would best be left to a team of very good psychiatrists.)

Anyway, I believe that the percentage of true liberals in this country is actually pretty low - - far less than the Democrat turnout would indicate. The rats run a good con and there is no shortage of fools and ignoramuses who buy it. Think about this - - how stupid do you have to be to fall for a campaign that could have been formulated by a boardwalk psychic; a campaign based primarily on two essentially meaningless words, “hope” and “change”, that sound so... positive!... and allow the smiling, sky-gazing listener’s imagination to turn them into whatever he wants?

And so we end up with “community organizer” Barack Hussein Obama as President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.


9 posted on 07/01/2009 10:30:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Libloather

We are all born liberals....dependent children...and then many of us shed our diapers...our ignorance...our childish beliefs...
our need for a perpetual parent to financially support us and tell us what to do ....we mature and we become conservatives...as Carl Jung said: “the number one goal in life is to parent ourselves....very few reach that goal in their lifetimes...”


10 posted on 07/01/2009 10:33:01 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: Niteflyr

As children we are also self-centered and see the world as an extension of ourselves...part of a move towards maturity is growing out of infantile narcissism and mastering the I-Thou relationship with the outer world...realizing that “I am not that..”.
Narcissism carried into adulthood can become malignant as you see in Barry Obama.


11 posted on 07/01/2009 10:38:40 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: Niteflyr

Wow! We are on the same page! I sent this to Rush at about 11:00 tonight:

Rush, yes liberals are born that way. In fact we ALL are born liberal. Example, just out of the womb we are all completely dependent for food, shelter, and clothing. We whine when we don’t get our way. And we do the stupidest things because we don’t think of the consequences. Yes, liberals are babies, and we were all one of them. The difference is, those of us who have grown up are called conservatives. We learn to be self-sufficient, optimistic, and tend to think way in advance the consequences of our actions and the issues surrounding our life.
Liberalism = born with original sin
Conservatism = “salvation and the re-newing of the mind”
(ideologically speaking of course)


12 posted on 07/01/2009 10:40:30 PM PDT by uptoolate (Primaries mean something - Conservative means Conservative)
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To: uptoolate

Yes you are exactly correct...when I hear a liberal say they were born that way and will always be... I just smile and say: “oh I see... so you are saying you are not and never will be an adult.”


13 posted on 07/01/2009 10:42:51 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: Niteflyr

Someone said : “if you aren’t a liberal at 20 you don’t have a heart...if you aren’t a conservative at 40 you don’t have a brain...”.
I think my college years is when I knew I just couldn’t stand to hang around liberals anymore....the BS and immaturity was just too much to handle.


14 posted on 07/01/2009 10:46:11 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: Niteflyr

The immaturity of liberalism

There’s a lot to suggest socialism is a kind of arrested development. When we are babes in arms, everything is given to us. Our every need is catered to- to the extent that we can communicate our needs. The more we communicate our needs, though, the more we are expected to deal with them ourselves. Potty training is probably the first harsh reality we have to encounter- which brings with it, the first time we have to plan in advance, the first time we have to recognize the signals of an impending event and react to them in time.

As we become adults, we take ever more responsibility for ourselves, to the point where we provide all our basic necessities.

The socialist attitude is that those who are less fortunate be provided for by those who are more fortunate.
When you’re six, this sounds like a great idea, doesn’t it?Let’s take a look at that concept, the idea of being more or less fortunate.

Sure, fortune smiles upon us. With the exception of the lottery, however, that fortune comes in the way of opportunity, and those opportunities are mostly, only opportunities. Only hard work turns them into “good fortune”. a LOT of people have excellent opportunities, and a lot of people fumble when handed that ball. Sometimes out of ignorance, sometimes out of inability, sometimes because they have no incentive.

If you are taught from youth that you must make the best of every opportunity you get, if you are taught that your life is in your hands and no one else, if you believe that you control your destiny, you will latch onto that opportunity with raptor claws, and sink your teeth in and drain every drop of it’s ability to enrich your life.
If, on the other hand, you believe that the government is there to catch you when you fall, and to take care of you when you stumble, those opportunities have less meaning, have less value, are more easily let go.

So at some point in your life, you are brought to the awareness that your life is in your hands- that is, unless you have an arrested social development. When we’re young and idealistic, we think that if everyone just worked together for a common goal we’d all be in nirvana, and anyone who didn’t want to work for the common good should be forced to do so- for their OWN good. Except there is nobody who can apply a “common good” fairly to all men. Except that anytime a government agency is involved fully 1/3 (if not dramatically more) of the money is lost to corruption and graft. Except that everyone’s “common good” is different from everyone else’s . Common isn’t so common.
When we begin to understand that people are different, when we start being aware of the fact that some jobs pay more, that some jobs pay less, that there are balances between power, income and responsibility, we begin to direct our own lives.

Consider the real story of thanksgiving. William Bradford and the pilgrims discovered that the socialist experiment, frankly didn’t work. The colony was established on such a small scale, without any outside assistance, and when the socialist model fell flat on it’s face, Bradford had the good sense to introduce a small free market, which allowed the colony to survive- and prosper.

John Smith and William Bradford saw the socialist social experiment fail, right before their eyes.

Since then, millions of people have made excuses for the failure of socialism every single time it has failed. “there was nobody to help”. “Too many people interfered”. “Not enough people worked hard enough”. “the officials were too corrupt”. Always excuses.

Capitalism is robust. It works despite interference from all corners. Socialism is not. The only reason for believing socialism can work is an arrested social development.

Conservative capitalism is robust in this country, and it has survived all attempts to regulate, litigate, duty, asses, and tax it out of existence. Conservative capitalism is the poles holding up the tent- and as there are a lot of poles, it’s hard to see the tent collapsing until they’re all gone. The pilgrim colony could not absorb the failure of social experimentation. the United States economy can- for a time. After it has absorbed so much, it could reach a point of unstoppable decay. Where is that line? I have no idea. I’d rather not cross it at all.

I’d rather just potty-train the socialists among us, so they understand that the idea is fundamentally flawed and can never work.


15 posted on 07/01/2009 10:54:57 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: Lancey Howard
I believe that the percentage of true liberals in this country is actually pretty low - - far less than the Democrat turnout would indicate.

Yep the latest Gallup poll shows there to be half as many liberals as conservatives...to hear Demowits tell it everyone is a liberal....

16 posted on 07/01/2009 11:05:36 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: Libloather; All
As one famous talk show host has said,

"...Liberalism is a mental disorder".

He's right. I've often said the same thing. It would take someone with far more knowledge than me about psychology to explain liberalism. It's really a sickness of sorts, the tuberculosis of our era.

A few of random thoughts on liberalism:

1. It's completely illogical so don't try to use logic to understand it. You will never sort it out.

2. It's supremely hypocritical in many if not most cases.

3. It's immoral mostly.

4. It's nonscientific

5. Although irrational Liberals are NOT necessarily stupid in fact there are many extremely rich and intelligent liberals. Go figure. God must be playing some sort of a trick on us.

6. Ideology will trump intelligence any day of the week as my late father use to say. This has something to do with liberalism.
17 posted on 07/02/2009 12:53:55 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: wintertime

The public schools,with intensive govt regulation, are the problem! The root cause.

Homeschooling is the answer.


18 posted on 07/07/2009 11:57:53 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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