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Just Do It (Tom Friedman on Cap and Trade)
New York Times ^ | 06/30/2009 | THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Posted on 07/01/2009 11:49:00 PM PDT by iowamark

There is much in the House cap-and-trade energy bill that just passed that I absolutely hate. It is too weak in key areas and way too complicated in others. A simple, straightforward carbon tax would have made much more sense than this Rube Goldberg contraption. It is pathetic that we couldn’t do better. It is appalling that so much had to be given away to polluters. It stinks. It’s a mess. I detest it.

Now let’s get it passed in the Senate and make it law.

Why? Because, for all its flaws, this bill is the first comprehensive attempt by America to mitigate climate change by putting a price on carbon emissions....

What are Republicans thinking? It is not as if they put forward a different strategy, like a carbon tax. Does the G.O.P. want to be the party of sex scandals and polluters or does it want to be a partner in helping America dominate the next great global industry: E.T. — energy technology? How could Republicans become so anti-environment, just when the country is going green?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: capandtax; capandtrade; thomasfriedman

1 posted on 07/01/2009 11:49:01 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark
An interesting example of socialist thinking. Tom believes that Green socialism is the inevitable wave of the future and just cannot understand why anyone would want to resist.
2 posted on 07/01/2009 11:51:44 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: iowamark

Please go away, Tommy.


3 posted on 07/01/2009 11:51:56 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: iowamark

4 posted on 07/01/2009 11:52:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: iowamark

You can’t go wrong if you do the direct opposite of what the New York Times recommends.


5 posted on 07/01/2009 11:53:16 PM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: iowamark

Tom Friedman is an egomaniac. I stopped reading his crap years ago.


6 posted on 07/01/2009 11:54:02 PM PDT by beagleone
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To: iowamark
Tom Friedman's Maryland estate: (imagine his carbon footprint!)


7 posted on 07/01/2009 11:55:18 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: iowamark
From Wikipedia:

[Friedman's wife, Ann, is a graduate of Stanford University and the London School of Economics.[2] Her father, Matthew Bucksbaum, was the chairman of the board of General Growth Properties, a real estate development group.[3] As of 2007, Forbes estimated the Bucksbaum family's assets at $4.1 billion, including about 18.6 million square meters of mall space, but the firm’s value later plummeted.[4][5] The family's trust declined in value from $3.6 billion to $25 million.[6] On April 16 2009, the company filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, after failing to reach a deal with its creditors. [7] The GGP collapse marked the largest real estate bankruptcy in U.S. history.[8]

Ann and Thomas Friedman live in Bethesda, Maryland, a suburb of Washington, D.C. The July 2006 issue of Washingtonian reported that they own “a palatial 11,400-square-foot (1,060 m2) house, currently valued at $9.3 million, on a 7½-acre parcel just blocks from I-495 and Bethesda Country Club.” Friedman is paid $75,000 per speaking engagement.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Friedman

8 posted on 07/01/2009 11:55:37 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: iowamark

Friedman’s writing and thinking has devolved into drivel, unfortunately.


9 posted on 07/01/2009 11:56:01 PM PDT by period end of story (Give me a firm spot, and I will move the world.)
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To: iowamark
Does the G.O.P. want to be the party of sex scandals and polluters or does it want to be a partner in helping America dominate the next great global industry: E.T. — energy technology?

Party of sex scandals, Tom? I guess I missed when Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Mel Reynolds, Barney Frank, Gerry Studds, Jesse Jackson, Bob Beckel, and Eliot Spitzer switched from Democrat to Republican.

10 posted on 07/02/2009 12:01:28 AM PDT by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: iowamark

Carbon emissions are important to the growth of all green things. They will also lessen the impact of the next Ice Age. Instead of taxing them we should give tax credits to encourage more carbon emissions.


11 posted on 07/02/2009 12:01:41 AM PDT by ReadTheLaw (by Frederic Bastiat)
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A simple, straightforward carbon tax would have made much more sense

But then the BTU Tax Bill cost the democrats dearly when they tried it. So "straightforward" is out. It's not a tax donchaknow. It's "Energy Security".

12 posted on 07/02/2009 12:04:58 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: iowamark

Another millionaire Marxist..


13 posted on 07/02/2009 12:05:07 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: iowamark; All
There are a group of fools out there who think Thomas Friedman of the NY Times is some sort of guru on Technology and Energy. The truth is Thomas Friedman (TF) doesn't know a thing about either Science, Engineering , Technology or Energy. He doesn't know his *ss from a hole in the ground. People think he does because he writes for the NY Times and that makes him some sort of expert. These people are as dumb as a box of rocks.

Friedman is a fool but he is an influential fool. He does have people who pay attention to what he says. This is regrettable but true. I wish Thomas Friedman and the NY Times would both go away. They both are almost always wrong.
14 posted on 07/02/2009 12:05:39 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: iowamark

In other words, I’ve got mine, screw you.


15 posted on 07/02/2009 12:07:27 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
“Do as I say’ not as I do”

Can't wait for Friedman's reaction when he has to start
refitting that lavish pile of bricks of his with L.E.D.s.

What a rude awakening he'll have trying to retrofit
that compound to bring it up to Federal resale standards.

JJ61

16 posted on 07/02/2009 12:09:27 AM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: iowamark

I hope the left keeps thinking this way.

Their day is coming.


17 posted on 07/02/2009 12:10:57 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: iowamark
This will pass in the Senate. Some minor changes will be made to provide some cover for the Republicans who will vote for it, but it will pass.
18 posted on 07/02/2009 12:13:20 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: Roccus
I fear you are correct.

It will be done by co-opting industry after industry. The rest will be intimidated. Please note what Wal-Mart do position on the issue of healthcare. Please note the support for Obama's policies coming out of General Electric.


19 posted on 07/02/2009 12:33:48 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: iowamark

There is an air of panic in this piece. Perhaps these warmists sense that the jig is up, given the emerging skepticism of scientists in light of the now obvious fact that man-made influence on climate is statistically insignificant. Hence, the urgency of ramming this through before the general population catches on. And like Gore, Friedman probably has a huge financial stake in this scam.


20 posted on 07/02/2009 12:46:00 AM PDT by omniscient (No birth certificate - no peace)
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To: omniscient
I smell the same panic with the left that you do, Omni.
The Dems are counting on quick action and are hoping that
the lazy, hazy, crazy distractions of summer provide enough
cover.

JJ61

21 posted on 07/02/2009 12:59:10 AM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Mr. Friedman can set an example by placing wind turbines on
his palatial estate.

Who in the world would pay $75000 to hear sophmoric drivel?

Do the uber wealthy become insane?


22 posted on 07/02/2009 1:05:51 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: nathanbedford
...and the slow-motion train wreck continues.

ALL of our national leadership, regardless of political party, are complicit in the destruction of this "Grand Experiment."

23 posted on 07/02/2009 1:06:08 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: JerseyJohn61
[“Do as I say’ not as I do”]

Because his vocation is to warp reality, Tom Friedman hasn't yet grasped that he and his class of wealthy, white liberals unleashed the insatiable monster that is about to devour them.

24 posted on 07/02/2009 1:22:45 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: iowamark

Reading this, the phrase ‘horse’s ass’ comes to mind.


25 posted on 07/02/2009 1:31:59 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: ChiMark

[Mr. Friedman can set an example by placing wind turbines on
his palatial estate.]

Wind turbines are noisy, unsightly, a hazard to birds and flying insects, and could adversely affect local tourism.


26 posted on 07/02/2009 1:57:59 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: iowamark
British Petroleum just scraped a billion dollar solar energy project because the solution, at this point in time isn't in solar....This cr*p about going green isn't going to work or people would have done it. It works on a minors level but just isn't there on large scale development per BP
27 posted on 07/02/2009 2:23:47 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: smoothsailing

EXACTLY


28 posted on 07/02/2009 2:26:44 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: iowamark
Tom Friedman the ultimate Limousine Liberal is so full of himself he has become a parody of stupidity. Even the respondees at the Slimes comments section can see this tool for the hypocrite he has always been!
29 posted on 07/02/2009 4:48:58 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iowamark
Yes, this bill’s goal of reducing U.S. carbon emissions to 17 percent below 2005 levels by 2020 is nowhere near what science tells us we need to mitigate climate change.

And what science would that be, Thomas?

Science is supposed to be about observable facts. Well, the observable fact is that tens of thousands of climate and earth scientists are on public record stating that man-made global warming is not happening.

And until the so-called "scientific" global-warming alarmists have the intellectual honesty to acknowledge and reasonably respond to these scientists, they have nothing to say that is even worth listening to, let alone using as a basis for drafting public policy.

30 posted on 07/02/2009 4:50:22 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: iowamark

If you’ve ever heard this asshat speak (say on CSPAN) he’s peddling the same crap that got 0bama elected. The sub-text is that the problems of the world are simple - we’ve just been thinking about them the wrong way. And the speaker is going to metaphorically take the listener by the hand and share with them the wisdom and clarity of their views and show them this new, easy and alertnative way to think. And the audience eats this BS up like it’s filet mignon. Essentially, it’s cult leader/cult follower 101.


31 posted on 07/02/2009 4:56:51 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: iowamark

I think we should put everyone in an enviro-guru Friedman mansion. If it’s good enough for a greenie, it’s good enough for me.

What’s that long thing on the right? Bowling alley? Shooting range? Lane swimming pool?


32 posted on 07/02/2009 4:56:59 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: nathanbedford
It will be done by co-opting industry after industry. The rest will be intimidated. Please note what Wal-Mart do position on the issue of healthcare. Please note the support for Obama's policies coming out of General Electric.

Good connecting of the dots, nb.

33 posted on 07/02/2009 5:04:04 AM PDT by exit82 (Be vigilant--what is happening on Iran's streets may yet happen here in America.)
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