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Obama Interview: I Support Abortion Conscience Clause, What Notre Dame Scandal?
Life News ^ | 7/2/09 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 07/03/2009 12:38:30 PM PDT by wagglebee

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- In a Thursday afternoon interview with members of various Catholic publications, President Barack Obama defended himself from criticism over his pro-abortion record. He said he supports a conscience clause on abortion but gave a joking response to a question about Notre Dame.

According to a National Catholic Register report, Obama talked about his upcoming visit with Pope Benedict XVI and said he looked forward to taking with him about unrelated political issues.

Father Owen Kearns, editor in chief and publisher of the Register, said each member of the Catholic press was allowed to ask one question and the most controversial came in regard to Obama's position on conscience clauses.

Kearns told Register writer Time Drake that Obama tried to "dispel the worst" about what pro-life advocates say about his attempts to overturn the additional pro-life conscience protections President Bush put in place.

"Well, I think that the only reason that my position may appear unclear is because it came in the wake of a last-minute, 11th-hour change in conscience clause provisions that were pushed forward by the previous administration that we chose to reverse," Obama said.

"But my underlying position has always been consistent, which is I'm a believer in conscience clauses. I was a supporter of a robust conscience clause in Illinois for Catholic hospitals and health care providers," Obama added.

"I discussed this with Cardinal George when he was here in the Oval Office, and I reiterated my support for an effective conscience clause in my speech at Notre Dame," he said.

About the pro-life movement's reaction to his pro-abortion record on the conscience clause, Obama said, "So I think that there have been some who keep on anticipating the worst from us, and it's not based on anything I've said or done, but is rather just a perception somehow that we have some hard-line agenda that we're seeking to push."

He said the Bush regulations "hadn't been properly reviewed and thought through" and that "We are in the process of reviewing the possibilities of any changes to what was then."

"We will be coming out with I think more specific guidelines. But I can assure all of your readers that when this review is complete there will be a robust conscience clause in place," Obama added.

"It may not meet the criteria of every possible critic of our approach, but it certainly will not be weaker than what existed before the changes were made," Obama promised.

About the divide over abortion in the Catholic Church and in the public, the president jokingly asked, "Was there really [a controversy at Notre Dame]?" in response to one question.

In more serious comments, Obama said he didn't think there was any way to fully reconcile both sides of the abortion debate.

"I can tell you, though, that on the idea of helping young people make smart choices so that they are not engaging in casual sexual activity that can lead to unwanted pregnancies, on the importance of adoption as a option, an alternative to abortion, on caring for pregnant women so that it is easier for them to support children, those are immediately three areas where I would be surprised if we don't have some pretty significant areas of agreement," Obama said.

He admitted that there likely won't be common ground on promoting sexual education versus promiting abstinence.

Obama also talked about reducing the "need" for abortion versus reducing the actual numbers of abortions -- a sticking point of late.

"I would be surprised if those who believe abortion should be legal would object to language that says we should try to reduce the circumstances in which women feel compelled to obtain an abortion,' he said. "If they took that position, I would disagree with them."

Kearns related to Drake how Obama said he supported the concept of the Seamless Garment Network that Cardinal Bernardin advanced.

However, it appeared Obama may support it because it elevated other issues where he has less disagreement with the Catholic Church than abolition.

"The president said that that part of the Catholic tradition continues to inspire him. Those issues, he said, seemed to have gotten buried by the abortion debate," Kearns said.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; bho44; bhoabortion; catholic; conscienceclause; moralabsolutes; notredame; notredamescandal; prolife
He said he supports a conscience clause on abortion but gave a joking response to a question about Notre Dame.

Zero is a LIAR!

1 posted on 07/03/2009 12:38:30 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 07/03/2009 12:40:32 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 07/03/2009 12:41:00 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
“Obama may support [the Seamless Garment Network] because it elevated other issues where he has less disagreement with the Catholic Church than abortion.” Exactamundo. I know you're not supposed to speak ill of the dead, but Cardinal Bernardin was a jerk.
4 posted on 07/03/2009 12:42:34 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: utahagen

Yes he was.


5 posted on 07/03/2009 12:43:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
He's the man who voted down BAIPA four times ...

What Obama and Michelle Believe re Aborted Babies Born Alive
FR POSTED http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2253212/posts?page=6

In February 2004, US Senate candidate Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the "alarming news" that "right-wing politicians" had passed a law (prohibiting doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls).

Michelle Obama called partial-birth abortion "a legitimate medical procedure. " She urged supporters to pay $150 to attend a fund-raising luncheon for her husband, who she promised would fight against "cynical ploy[s]" to stop it.

BACKGROUND Legislation was presented on the federal level and in various states called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. It stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted. BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote. Even Sens. Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry agreed a mother's right to "choose" stopped at her baby's delivery. The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme. President Bush signed BAIPA into law in 2002.

But in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. Obama worried aloud that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights.

In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics.

BAIPA passed in 2005.........after Obama left.

6 posted on 07/03/2009 12:44:26 PM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: utahagen

The Seamless Garment covers naked socialization.


7 posted on 07/03/2009 12:45:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: wagglebee

He’s worse than a liar.


8 posted on 07/03/2009 12:45:30 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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9 posted on 07/03/2009 12:45:31 PM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

socialization = socialism

(Doh!)


10 posted on 07/03/2009 12:46:19 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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11 posted on 07/03/2009 12:47:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
" Obama said, "So I think that there have been some who keep on anticipating the worst from us, and it's not based on anything I've said or done, but is rather just a perception somehow that we have some hard-line agenda that we're seeking to push.""
12 posted on 07/03/2009 12:47:44 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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Obama manipulating the Catholic vote.


13 posted on 07/03/2009 12:48:37 PM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: wagglebee
In addition to be an idiot, a heretic, and an enabler of abortionism and infanticie, he's blasphemous.

Back when there was a real Catholic vote that mattered, no politician or president would have gone out of his way to offend Catholics. It shows you how far things have declined.

14 posted on 07/03/2009 12:48:54 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: wagglebee

Liars lie.


15 posted on 07/03/2009 1:05:22 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Liz

Look like he will be voting ‘present’ again...


16 posted on 07/03/2009 1:07:41 PM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Please, I beg all of you, do NOT think this man is an idiot or has a team of incompetent fools advising him. He and his shadow group of dangerous anti-American socialists are moving their agenda at warp speed. Think of what has been accomplished so far. Anyone doubt why he chose Biden rather than Hillary? Hillary would have blown the whistle, Biden is a yes man all the way. Everyone this man has appointed is in his puzzle of disaster to the America we know and love. I don't like liberals, but they at least are open enough to state what they believe, this government in the shadows is killing all of us with the media thinking they have the wink and nod to get access. Even Helen Thomas sees what's going on. My question is will the military follow him to our demise, or is there a project in the works to keep our line of defense too busy with other projects so when they are truly needed to defend our own soil, they will be too dispersed to be effective.
Call me a tin-foil hat wackjob, but I love my country. I love it enough to defend it with my heart soul and whatever I happen to have handy at the time. God Bless us all and remember what the true meaning of tomorrow is.
17 posted on 07/03/2009 1:10:21 PM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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Look like he will be voting ‘present’ again...

Anything else is "above his pay grade."

18 posted on 07/03/2009 1:10:45 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

“The president said that that part of the Catholic tradition continues to inspire him”

Yes we know, the Marxist linked economic aspects of “social justice”.


19 posted on 07/03/2009 1:16:50 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: wagglebee

The Sophist King speaks again...What a lying sack of s&it !


20 posted on 07/03/2009 1:29:27 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: wagglebee
"Well, I think that the only reason that my position may appear unclear is because it came in the wake of a last-minute, 11th-hour change in conscience clause provisions that were pushed forward by the previous administration that we chose to reverse," Obama said. "But my underlying position has always been consistent, which is I'm a believer in conscience clauses. I was a supporter of a robust conscience clause in Illinois for Catholic hospitals and health care providers," Obama added.

Translation: One of my first acts in office was to reverse the conscience clause put in place by Bush. But pay no attention to that deed, it meant nothing, just listen to my words. Words are more important than deeds.

"And when I sign the FOCUS bill and totally abolish freedom of conscience for anyone in the health professions, it will be with a certain sense of distaste, like the distaste I felt in signing Nancy's pork-stuffed Stimulous Bill. But such things have to be done. We cannot remain with those tired old ways. We must forge ahead to a new tomorrow."

21 posted on 07/03/2009 1:46:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: wagglebee

If the MSM started treating the ‘Bama like a Republican, a childish and ugly side would be revealed in about a week.


22 posted on 07/03/2009 2:07:25 PM PDT by Spok (Proud father of a Marine in the 1/1.)
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23 posted on 07/03/2009 3:39:52 PM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: trisham
Love this...

He said the Bush regulations "hadn't been properly reviewed and thought through" and that "We are in the process of reviewing the possibilities of any changes to what was then."

Bullsh#t! Bush had more competent people than Zero. They knew the law and how it should be followed.

I would have loved to have smacked down that response right then and there. I would ask Zero to give me an example of one of Bush's regulations that were not thought through.

I would then blast him about his response of taking over private companies, and what gives him the authority to do such things.

Please... he is so damned arrogant.

24 posted on 07/03/2009 4:07:13 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Northern Yankee

I could not agree more.


25 posted on 07/03/2009 4:19:37 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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26 posted on 07/03/2009 4:32:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Supports a conscience clause??

What a pile.


27 posted on 07/03/2009 4:34:46 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: wagglebee
But, but, but I thought he supported this!


28 posted on 07/03/2009 4:35:44 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

Yep, babies are “punishment”.


29 posted on 07/03/2009 4:38:45 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

As my grandfather said: “If a person lies, he will cheat. If he cheats, he will steal.” With Obama, that is proven true. What’s next? Murder? Oh, with his support of abortion and late term abortions, I guess he has his hand in that already.


30 posted on 07/03/2009 10:36:44 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: NYer

What scandal indeed. As far as the White House is concerned, the only ‘scandal’ seems to be that some with extreme views chose to try to disrupt the president’s visit. And ‘smart thinking’ Catholics (as Biden claims he is), like some at Notre Dame, don’t think there is a scandal, so what of it? And therein lies the issue. We shouldn’t be surprised he said that.


31 posted on 07/04/2009 5:36:32 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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