Posted on 07/04/2009 3:32:05 AM PDT by Man50D
The UN's top health official has opened a forum in Mexico on combating swine flu by saying that the spread of the virus worldwide is now unstoppable.
World Health Organization head Margaret Chan added that the holding of the meeting in Cancun showed confidence in Mexico, which has been hard hit.
The WHO says most H1N1 cases are mild, with many people recovering unaided.
As the summit opened, the UK alone was projecting more than 100,000 new cases of H1N1 a day by the end of the summer.
As the peak of the flu season approaches in South America, some areas have declared a public health emergency.
El Salvador reported its first death from swine flu, a day after Paraguay reported its first fatality.
'Mild symptoms'
"As we see today, with well over 100 countries reporting cases, once a fully fit pandemic virus emerges, its further international spread is unstoppable," Dr Chan said in her opening remarks.
She stressed that the overwhelming majority of patients experienced mild symptoms and made a full recovery within a week, often in the absence of any form of medical treatment.
The exceptions, she said, were pregnant women and people with underlying health problems, who were at higher risk from complications from the virus and should be monitored if they fell ill.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...
Yes. But hey...they don’t want a “crisis” to go to waste!
I am beginning to become suspicious about the vaccine for this supposed “pandemic”. This whole scenario seems contrived.
I thought WHO was on FIRST!
Leaving those borders open and ignoring this whole thing
has apparently paid off.
Literally and figuratively.
Swine flu = Biowarfare?
“Swine flu = Biowarfare?”
My sense is that this is just another strain of flu. If it’s biowarfare, then its coming-up short (at least for now).
By any logical standard, the influenza virus that comes and goes year after year should have recieved more hype as it normally kills more people by an order of magnitude (avg 36,000 people per year for infuenza, not sure if we’ve broken 100 yet here in the US).
biowarfare test?
to determine if US would leave borders open (yes)
and if the US would do nothing (yes)
and if the US would just ignore ongoing threats (yes)
Yes, I haven’t seen a big surge in cases for it.
In Argentina, they are closing malls and other public gathering places and there have been reports of numerous deaths due to the “gripe porcina.” Is it a game being played by the Kirschner government to distract the public from its plundering? Maybe but the Argentines seem genuinely scared, and it is winter flu season there.
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H1N1 flu ping to you.
Have a great Independence Day.
WRONG!!! WHO “HOPES” swine flu is unstoppable, it’s all about fear and control, don’t fall for thier crap!!
I just flew through Buenos Aires on my way to Montevideo several weeks ago. I had to fill out and sign a form documenting my medical history, have it looked at by a doctor going through transit, be scanned by a thermal device etc. Interestingly on my way back through BA (to Miami) there was the form, but nothing else, but travelers from the US were still going through the “whole nine yards”.
Sure, Kirschner is playing politics (do dogs have fleas?) But this virus seems for now to just be “flying along below the radar”, and we don’t see a lot about it in other countries on the news (surprise... there is of course, Michael Jackson).
There are several thousand cases now in Chile, for example. I would not be too cavalier about dismissing all this as some sort of nefarious plot by unknown government or other dark conspirators, as you obviously are not. Yes, seeing though all the “KandK” nonsense, the Argentines do seem to be worried.
And as you point out, it is flu season there.
People need to remember that the 1918 flu started out in the first wave as a relatively benign infection. It was the second and third waves that were he real killers.
I have also noticed that the number of cases (some now fatal) here in Florida has been slowly building. We are not yet in our flu season, of course.
Boy these leftist scum sure want this one bad don’t they?
I’m in Tampa and I’m very concerned what will happen here in the fall, with all the travel back and forth to Latin America. Miami should give us the first clue.
RUn and shout run and shout. Throw your hands in the air. Make it sound like the world is ending
It is the friggin flu folks. Stay hydrated, avoid hospitals and little children, wash your hands.
fer cryin out loud
I vaguely remember the movie (Hoffman as an Army colonel?!?!?).
Yes all the media on it certainly moves the ongoing wealth transfer off the front page and keeps the proles under control and needy (I need my vaccine).
It'll prompt more calls for gov't intervention and more profits for the folks who cook up these scenarios and happen to have a vaccine plant or two sitting idle.
It's viral marketing :-)
And in 1918 most people died from shock lung . There were no commonly available anti-virals or other medicines. Hospitals were in short supply due to the war.
Coming out of WWI had more to do with the numbers of deaths in 1918 than necessarily the virility of the virus.
Every year we lose tens of thousands in the US to flu. 40 deaths a day comes out to the very low end of that
WHO Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 - update 57 July 3, 2009 |
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US |
World |
|
| Cases | 33,902 |
89,921 |
| Deaths | 170 |
382 |
| New cases since last report (July 1, 2009) |
6,185 |
12,720 |
| Deaths since last report (July 1, 2009) |
43 |
50 |
Source:
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/07/04/ david-beckham-s-11-year-old-niece-is-battling-swine-flu-115875-21493652/
David Beckham’s 11-year-old niece is battling swine flu
By Aidan Mcgurran 4/07/2009
David Beckham’s 11-year-old niece is battling swine flu after staying at an adventure camp.
Georgina Every, daughter of Becks’ sister Lynne, was one of three youngsters hit by the bug during the fiveday school outing.
Parents had been warned about an outbreak before the children set off - but were told they would lose their £300 payments if they pulled out.
Lynne, 36, yesterday said she bitterly regretted letting Georgina attend after watching her suffer with coughing and aching limbs.
She added: “If I had known she would come back so sick I would have forfeited the money.”
Georgina, now taking the anti-viral drug Tamiflu, was among 90 pupils from St Edward’s Primary, Romford, Essex at the PGL centre in Marchants Hill, Surrey.
A pgl spokesman said they reported an outbreak in a previous school group in the middle of June, but had been cleared to stay open by the Health Protection Agency.
Eight camp staff have also come down with the virus and have been told to stay at home.
Beckham, who once gave Lynne £130,000 to buy a house, is being kept closely informed of Georgina’s condition and has sent a get well message.
Mexican swine flu victims were young, some healthy
Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:07pm EDT
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE55S6BS20090629
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Swine flu patients in Mexico were young and many were healthy before developing severe infections, doctors reported on Monday.
The first detailed studies of the outbreak of a new strain of H1N1 influenza show the epidemic in Mexico resembled the early stages of other pandemics, and showed there is no way yet to predict who will become severely ill from the virus.
The World Health Organization has confirmed 70,893 cases in the new H1N1 swine flu pandemic, with 311 deaths. However, U.S. health officials last week said there were likely at least a million cases there alone. Iraq, Lithuania, Monaco and Nepal all confirmed their first cases on Monday.
Dr. Rogelio Perez-Padilla of the National Institute of Respiratory Diseases in Mexico City and colleagues studied 18 H1N1 cases in March and April, more than half of them aged 13 to 47.
Only eight had pre-existing medical conditions that might worsen their flu infection, they wrote — including high blood pressure, diabetes, asthma and sleep apnea. Seven died — all of multiple organ failure.
The doctors said 90 percent of the seriously ill patients were under 50 — in contrast to seasonal influenza, which causes mostly mild illness in people under the age of 65.
“Most of our patients were young to middle-aged and had previously been healthy,” they wrote in their report, published in the New England Journal of Medicine.
“One contributing factor for death in our patients may have been delayed admission and delayed initiation of oseltamivir.”
Oseltamivir, sold by Roche AG under the brand name Tamiflu, can treat influenza, although Denmark reported the first case on Monday of swine flu resisting the drug’s effects.
“We did not find a factor that, before the onset of illness, predicted a worse outcome or death among our patients,” Perez-Padilla’s team wrote.
HEALTHCARE WORKERS
In addition, 22 of 190 healthcare workers who came close to the patients themselves got flu-like illness but were treated with Tamiflu and none got seriously ill.
Dr. Stefano Bertozzi of the National Institute of Public Health in Mexico and colleagues studied the cases of 2,155 people who developed severe pneumonia from H1N1 infection in March and April, 821 who had detailed hospital records and 100 who died.
They found that 87 percent of those who died were aged 5 to 59, and 71 percent of severe cases were among people 5 to 59, compared to a usual average of 32 percent for seasonal flu.
“This wave of pneumonia is reminiscent of the initial phase of pandemics from the last century,” they wrote.
Health experts have speculated that people over the age of 52 have some protection from the new virus because it may resemble a strain of H1N1 flu that circulated before 1957.
“Influenza A H1N1 abruptly disappeared from humans in 1957 and was replaced by a new reassortant virus that combined genes from the H1N1 strain and an avian virus,” Dr. Shanta Zimmer and Dr. Donald Burke of the University of Pittsburgh wrote in a second report in the same journal. Flu viruses frequently swap genes in a process called reassortment.
(Editing by Vicki Allen)
Swine flu hitting young, healthy adults hardest (Canada)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/swine-flu-hitting-young-healthy-adults-hardest/article1203826/
The young and healthy who feel invincible from the H1N1 “swine flu” influenza pandemic may not be as bulletproof as they think, warn public health experts.
Nearly two-thirds of Canadians hospitalized due to swine flu, and half of those who have died, had no underlying health conditions.
Experts do not yet understand why the new strain affects some healthy people so severely, ravaging their lungs with an aggressive pneumonia and forcing them to spend weeks in hospital, attached to breathing machines.
“They are ending up on ventilators and it can last from weeks to months,” said Michael Gardam, director of infectious diseases at the Ontario Agency for Health Protection and Promotion. “I would like people to be concerned about H1N1, without panicking. More concerned than they are about seasonal flu.”
A new study tracking the epidemic in Mexico also found the flu strain hits those between the ages of 20 and 50 the hardest, with a higher death rate than other age groups.
WHO warns? I don’t know. 3rd base!!
In that case let’s all just give up and kill ourselves! What a load of manure! Absolute nonsense!
That number, 36,000 deaths a year in the U.S. from Flu is completely bogus. It is backed up by no empirical evidence, just a single model given out in , I believe, 2003 or 2004.
think about it this way:
How many people are actually determined to die from auto accidents in the U.S. every year. We know that it is around 40,000.
Now, think about it...how many people do you personally know of who have died in an auto accident in your lifetime?
I know of two myself. In my entire life!
Now, how many people do you know of personally who were determined to have died of the flu in your lifetime?
Everybody raise their hands.
I personally know of exactly zero.
The actual number of people who die of the flu only , each year in the U.S. is about 100-200, no more...
As for the new “novel” flu being bio-warfare, well, think carefully, who controls the WHO at this time?
Also think, isn’t it true that this new flu has components from pigs, birds, and human, never seen before and whose provenance is a real mystery?
And think about this: suddenly, in the past two weeks, three individuals from ALL around the world, have turned up with novel flu resistant to the main treatment against it, tamiflu. Just like that, in two weeks. Very, very strange.
Consider that , when tami resistance was first found in “regular” flu , it took almost TWO years for it to become the predominant strain,yet this year it took TWO WEEKS, for it to be seen in three place around the world.
Very strange.
Jus’ sayin’
bump
I don't know
THIRD BASE!
Experts looking into claim H1N1 evolved in lab
May. 12 2009
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090512/h1n1_evolution_090512/20090512
The World Health Organization and leading influenza research groups are investigating unpublished claims that the new H1N1 swine flu virus may have evolved in a laboratory, not in nature.
Bloomberg News is reporting retired Australian researcher Adrian Gibbs plans to publish a scientific report saying the never-before-seen virus may have evolved in eggs.
Eggs are used in laboratories and in vaccine manufacturing to grow up quantities of influenza viruses.
Gibbs apparently claims that the virus bears the hallmarks of having undergone `accelerated evolution’ such as what happens when viruses try to adapt to growing in eggs.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has been studying Gibbs’ claim and says it does not believe Gibbs is correct.
The CDC’s Dr. Nancy Cox says her labs and others cannot find evidence to support the claim that the virus has undergone accelerated evolution.
Happy Fourth of July!
Ping... (Thanks, neverdem! And a happy Independence Day to you and yours as well!)
Sorry about the double ping, busy day and all that...
Tamiflu resistant H1N1 from Hong Kong more worrying than earlier findings
By Helen Branswell – 16 minutes ago
TORONTO — All cases of Tamiflu resistance are not created equal. So while the first three instances of swine flu infection with Tamiflu-resistant viruses were reported in the past week, it was Number 3, not Number 1 that put influenza experts on edge.
Public health authorities in Hong Kong announced Friday they have found a case of Tamiflu resistance in a woman who hadn’t taken the drug.
That means she was infected with swine flu viruses that were already resistant to Tamiflu, the main weapon in most countries’ and companies’ pandemic drug arsenals.
[snip]
Much more:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jb6J6PJB7Burz1l0V3UoN6Q7mYOA
Oh, joy!
What next? A horde of locusts?
That could be it.
Excerpted:
As the anticipated July release date for Baxter’s A/H1N1 flu pandemic vaccine approaches, an Austrian investigative journalist is warning the world that the greatest crime in the history of humanity is underway.
Jane Burgermeister has recently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder.
She has also prepared an injunction against forced vaccination which is being filed in America. These actions follow her charges filed in April against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology of Austria for producing contaminated bird flu vaccine, alleging this was a deliberate act to cause and profit from a pandemic.
adrian gibbs is the only person that has made the bioengineering claim. He is widely believed to be experiencing some senility. Please do a little research on the flu, before you start making crazy statements like 100-200 people die in the US from the flu. Using your personal experience to make this determination is not really an accurate gauge. As a paramedic, I can assure you that far more than 200 people die each year from the flu. This flu has not been bioengineered, and it is potentially very deadly. More and more it is looking like a big threat. I hope this isn’t true, but the flu seems to be picking up steam.
“, and it is potentially very deadly. More and more it is looking like a big threat. I hope this isn’t true, but the flu seems to be picking up steam.”
well, we can agree about that, but look at what monotreme over at PFI has to say
“Mainstream virologists believe that the 1977 H1N1 came from a laboratory. This virus continues to circulate, and kill, today, as seasonal H1N1.
A scientist with an extensive record of research in virology including contributions to the discovery of Tamiflu, suggests the new H1N1 came from a laboratory.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Gibbs%20MJ%22[Author]
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/SwineFlu/story?id=7584420
No-one has found the animal that is reputed to have started the current pandemic.
And this is all “internet nonsense”?
Not really.
What is striking to me is how some seek to shout down consideration of a perfectly reasonable hypothesis. The CDC and the WHO have successfully blocked publication of a world-renowned virologist’s analysis. If this is analysis is flawed, why not publish it and allow others to criticize it?”
Humans, Birds and Pigs can all harbor the same flu. The bird flu is actually a combination of bird flu and human flu. The flu virus mutates very quickly, so all it takes is for a pig to get a form of the bird flu. It then has RNA from pig flu, avian flu, and human flu. If the RNA is combined into enough combinations, it will eventually create a form of flu similar to H1N1. It is all a matter of enough flu infections, and recombination of genes.
No one is really trying to shut down a theory, as much as they are all aware that this combination is rare, but entirely predictable. As for finding the animal that started the epidemic, they are not even certain where it began. The flu virus mutates so quickly, there wouldn't be any benefit to isolating the pig (almost certainly it was a pig) that started the entire thing.
I would guess that the article wasn't published because it lacked any real evidence that this flu was created in a lab, and it didn't do anything to assist in managing the pandemic. I have worked with both CDC and WHO on several occasionsover the last 25 years. They are professionals who truly care about the well being of people. They do a great job, in a demanding and very challenging job. They are far from a typical government run organization.
Humans, Birds and Pigs can all harbor the same flu. The bird flu is actually a combination of bird flu and human flu. The flu virus mutates very quickly, so all it takes is for a pig to get a form of the bird flu. It then has RNA from pig flu, avian flu, and human flu. If the RNA is combined into enough combinations, it will eventually create a form of flu similar to H1N1. It is all a matter of enough flu infections, and recombination of genes.
No one is really trying to shut down a theory, as much as they are all aware that this combination is rare, but entirely predictable. As for finding the animal that started the epidemic, they are not even certain where it began. The flu virus mutates so quickly, there wouldn't be any benefit to isolating the pig (almost certainly it was a pig) that started the entire thing.
I would guess that the article wasn't published because it lacked any real evidence that this flu was created in a lab, and it didn't do anything to assist in managing the pandemic. I have worked with both CDC and WHO on several occasionsover the last 25 years. They are professionals who truly care about the well being of people. They do a great job, in a demanding and very challenging job. They are far from a typical government run organization.
A sure sign that global warming is dead as a terror tactic, a new scenario for scaring people: Swine Flu!
You must be referring to the large increase in fatal swine flu cases throughout the world. It just sounds odd to call it a tactic.
This swine flu is BS and no more a threat than any other flu. If you believe this crap then you are also a global warming believer. It is all nonsense. The flu, of one type or another, has killed people world wide since recorded history. This flu will be no different and the amount of people killed is very small. The rumor of untold deaths facing us is kept alive for the same reason any other scare tactic is kept alive, to terrify people into accepting restrictive laws so they can be controlled, and to bring in money through people streaming into hospitals and docs and crying for vaccinations. If you want to believe, fine, as for me, it is just another flu.
There is a big difference between the 250,000 who die throughout the regular flu season, and the 50 to 100 million that died in the flu of 1918. The difference isn’t only in the numbers, but in the age and health of those who died. In some areas the flu of 1918 was so virulent that it killed completely healthy people who were 20 -35 years old in less than 24 hours. Even today, we have no medical treatment that will prevent this type of death.
This flu has not proved to be this virulent so far, which is a blessing. However, this flu continues to change and mutate, and it has the potential to become this virulent. The problem is that there appears to be very little immunity to this flu. With the regular flu, a big portion of the population has limited immunity from previous seasonal flu. Another portion is vaccinated, and has at least a limited immunity.
With this flu, only those who are over 65 show some possible immunity. This gives the H1N1 flu a much larger population to infectl. You say “the rumor of untold deaths” as if there haven’t been many people who have already died.
This flu is just getting started. Argentina is experiencing a major outbreak, which might show us what the fall will bring.
We are armed with some mildly effective medications (Tamiflu, if it doesn’t become resistant), much greater knowledge than we had in 1918, and a possible vaccination. I assure you that most at CDC and WHO are hoping and praying that this flu does not reach its full destructive potential.
You show no willingness to listen or to change your mind at all. for some reason, other than actual medical knowledge, you have determined that this flu is solely a political issue. Maybe what you say is true and you can foresee the future. I hope you are right. As a first responder who has already seen the potential of this flu compared to the seasonal flu, I very much doubt that your version of the future is correct. Unlike yours, mine is based upon actual facts.
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