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Ambassador to US: Iranian nuke could wipe Israel out in seconds
jpost ^ | Jul 4, 2009 | By JPOST.COM STAFF

Posted on 07/04/2009 7:10:54 AM PDT by Flavius

Recently appointed ambassador to the United States Michael Oren warned over the weekend that an Iranian atomic bomb could "wipe Israel off the map in a matter of seconds," and that the Iranians could "accomplish in a matter of seconds what they denied Hitler did, and kill 6 million Jews, literally."

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1 posted on 07/04/2009 7:10:54 AM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

And Obama would be “deeply concerned”.


2 posted on 07/04/2009 7:11:59 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: Redleg Duke

yes, and privately as a muslim, cheering.


3 posted on 07/04/2009 7:13:25 AM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: Flavius; Ernest_at_the_Beach; F15Eagle; GOPJ; Munz; Quix; SandRat; SJackson; SolidWood
Since Israel is only 8 miles wide that is stating the obvious.

Was he saying in this in the context of a hypothetical nuclear weapon or is he confirming Iran has a nuke?

4 posted on 07/04/2009 7:14:53 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Flavius
In the next year or so a missile from North Korea will hit Hawaii or somewhere in the US. A missile from Iran will hit Israel and Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will apologize to the UN saying it was the right wingers in the US that provoked it.
5 posted on 07/04/2009 7:15:06 AM PDT by detective
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To: Flavius
Of course, Israel admitted to a 200 warhead nuclear arsenal at the time the Oslo accords were negotiated in 1998. And military think tanks focused on the middle east believe they have added between 25 and 35 additional warheads each year since then. Israel also has submarines.

I suspect Iran would produce a very, very empty map. And Jews from around the globe would resettle Israel

6 posted on 07/04/2009 7:15:37 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Flavius

So now I understand why Israel is pushing so hard to expand their settlements. This way you disperse the population & territory making it less concentrated and settlements also create a buffer zones for the major population centers, a strategy which is defensive in nature.


7 posted on 07/04/2009 7:16:04 AM PDT by eaglestar
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To: ken21

Michelle will be declare this the second time she’s proud of America and her allies.


8 posted on 07/04/2009 7:17:58 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: MrEdd

You don’t suppose that that would be a good thing, do you.

Why take the chance?

Since Israel has the means to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, with one or two well placed nuclear shots fo their own, I think they would be altogether justified in doing so. After privately offering Iran an ultimatum.


9 posted on 07/04/2009 7:19:59 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: detective
In the next year or so a missile from North Korea will hit Hawaii or somewhere in the US. A missile from Iran will hit Israel and Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will apologize to the UN saying it was the right wingers in the US that provoked it.

They'll blame right wingers in general, but specifically, they'll say it's Bush's fault.
10 posted on 07/04/2009 7:20:25 AM PDT by wolfpat (Moderate=Clueless)
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To: detective

Hillary Clinton will resign within the next year!


11 posted on 07/04/2009 7:20:48 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Flavius

Israel has seaborne nukes. Should the mullahs attempt something so stupid, Iran would cease to be inhabitable.


12 posted on 07/04/2009 7:22:34 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: Redleg Duke

If Israel believes that then they should pre-emptively strike Iran.
Nukes are only good for prevention when you believe the other side does not wish to be nuked.


13 posted on 07/04/2009 7:28:57 AM PDT by omega4179 (Not my Communist in Chief.)
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To: Dr. Ursus
Hillary Clinton will resign within the next year!

So she can run against obama in 2012.

14 posted on 07/04/2009 7:30:19 AM PDT by MistrX
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To: eaglestar

Iran would sacrifice palis to hit the settlements too. Remember, Pali are dogs to the Arab world.


15 posted on 07/04/2009 7:31:15 AM PDT by omega4179 (Not my Communist in Chief.)
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To: Perdogg

The thick plot and the plot thickens.

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.

Of course, Iranian nut jobs seem to have no clue at all what God has in HIS arsenal . . . nor who HE’s AIMING at! LOL.


16 posted on 07/04/2009 7:33:08 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: detective

Isn’t it incredible . . .

about how short a time ago, such an assertion would have been totally irrational . . . and how now . . . it’s not at all irrational.

Fascinating.


17 posted on 07/04/2009 7:34:35 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Flavius

Another person with a poor understanding of nuclear impacts. Pakistan’s top nukes are only about 10-25 kilotons. Iran is still developing nukes. A one MEGAton (1000 kT) bast merely damages buildings and people at a radius of 4 miles. Israel is 8 miles wide at its narrowest point, but one BIG nuke cannot “wipe out” the entire country, and the odds are good that Iran’s first nukes will not be in the high-yield range.


18 posted on 07/04/2009 7:35:05 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Dr. Ursus

I’m a bit skeptical about that.

I think she’ll either somehow end up replacing OThuga

or

be installed as the head of NORTHAM.


19 posted on 07/04/2009 7:35:46 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: MrEdd
I heard that Israel has neutron nukes. I wonder what these kind of nukes could do? If I was Israel, I'd hit them before they hit me, and not just hit them to scare them.. I'd clean them off the face of the earth.
20 posted on 07/04/2009 7:38:10 AM PDT by odin2008 (Everything in the universe is subject to change.)
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To: detective

And the Iranian missile (or more likely, some other method of nuclear attack) that hits Iran will be denied by Iran. They’ll just say someone stole their weapon.
Possibly a suitcase or two. When Iran reports one of their scientists is missing, it’s time for Israelis to head for the cellar.


21 posted on 07/04/2009 7:39:46 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Today I learned why people sometimes shoot their televisions.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Since Israel has the means to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons

obtaining?

IMHO, the only thing that has kept Iran from firing a nuke into Israel is that they know it will get shot down.

22 posted on 07/04/2009 7:47:38 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: reagan_fanatic

The problem is that Iran will not nuke Israel directly. They will let one of their proximes do it. And, of course, the UN would urge the remnants of the Israeli government to exercise “restraint”.

What the world keeps forgetting is that the surest way to induce chaos, destruction, and holocaust is through appeasement. If you appease evil, it will quickly grow and be a lot harder to eventually deal with. The likes of Obama and Hillary are beholden only to their own perogatives and (wishful fantasies). They are immune to the lessons of history. As a result, they will doom us all to WWIII. Its coming.


23 posted on 07/04/2009 7:54:07 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Redleg Duke
And Obama would be “deeply concerned” and then go get some ice cream.
24 posted on 07/04/2009 7:54:10 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Israel has seaborne nukes. Should the mullahs attempt something so stupid, Iran would cease to be inhabitable.

Remember, islam is a cult of death... I seem to recall reading that one of the iranian mullahs saying that losing 50 or 60 million muslims would be worthwhile in order to kill all the Jews and destroy Israel.

Mark

25 posted on 07/04/2009 8:07:50 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: omega4179
Iran would sacrifice palis to hit the settlements too. Remember, Pali are dogs to the Arab world.

And remember that Iranians are NOT arabs, and they get quite upset if you call them that. Iranians are Persians. There is no love lost between the two, which is one of the reasons that the saudis are so fearful of Iran.

Mark

26 posted on 07/04/2009 8:09:35 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Redleg Duke

No Obama would be saying that the sweetest sound he have ever heard is the Muslim call to prayer!

We need to disarm Iran now. Israel will take out the Iranians Nuke site. The whole arab world will be cheering under their breath for Israel to do it. The arab world knows that Irans Nukes would probably have a faulty guidance system and take out not only Israel but the countries around it.


27 posted on 07/04/2009 8:19:06 AM PDT by ncfool (The GEORGE BUSH revolution has finally arrived in Iran! Where is Obama?)
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To: UCANSEE2

That and the fact they don’t currently have one.

I suspect that if Iran had nuclear weapons they would use it to blackmail their neighbors before starting a conflict with Israel that will have grave consequences for them.

In any event, I don’t think Israel can afford to rely on wishful thinking.


28 posted on 07/04/2009 8:31:12 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: Flavius

Israel should be very clear about Iranian nukes. Clear that retaliation will not be limited to Iran, but all Muslim nations. That in the matter of a few hours, most of the Muslims of the world will be annihilated.

Mecca and Medina will be destroyed, and with dirty bombs that will make the area uninhabitable for hundreds or thousands of years. (Most fallout from a typical nuclear weapon is decays after only two weeks). And with those cities, all the other great religious sites of Islam.

Iran, though, will be worst hit, as will Damascus. An effort to eliminate all human life. Persia will be no more.


29 posted on 07/04/2009 8:33:47 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Perdogg
Was he saying in this in the context of a hypothetical nuclear weapon or is he confirming Iran has a nuke?

It's one of many breadcrumbs being laid down one by one on the trail to Israel taking out Iran's nuke facilities and whatever else ends up being in the way. This serves as a statement Israel can point to in the future as the point where the U.S. continued to do nothing on behalf of the world after hearing the clearest expression of Israel's fears of complete destruction, and therefore Israel had to.

30 posted on 07/04/2009 8:49:52 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: odin2008

Neutron bombs or XRAY lasers(another term for the same thing) kill living matter while leaving buildings and structures standing with very little lingering radiation. Areas could be resettled in a matter of weeks or months.


31 posted on 07/04/2009 9:08:02 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Perdogg

Perdogg, Israel was not too forthcoming about having nukes either.
I seem to remember an explosion in the Indian Ocean years ago they ultimately pinned on Israel testing one decades ago.
Israel had best quit screwing around and take Iranian nuclear project out.


32 posted on 07/04/2009 9:58:15 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Flavius
Tel Aviv - the largest city, by far - is in a TERRIBLE location. A single large nuclear explosion certainly could wipe out half the Jewish population, and make the continued existence of Israel as a Jewish state virtually impossible.

However, nuclear weapons do NOT poison the earth for centuries as some believe. Hiroshima and Nagasaki both have visible signs of the bombs that were used there, but those signs have been carefully preserved as memorials, and are visited by thousands of adults and children daily without any ill effects from their proximity to “ground zero.”

33 posted on 07/04/2009 10:20:55 AM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!.)
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To: omega4179
You are correct in saying that "Palis are dogs to the [rest] of the Arab world." I've been in the ME for almost three years now, and I can vouch for the accuracy of that statement. When I ask other Arabs why they hate Palestinians, the reply I most often get is pretty succinct: "They're just f*cked up." The second most often heard one is: "They are no-good liars and cheats." Now that second response is pretty remarkable, considering the fact that the overwhelming majority of Arabs I've dealt with are commpulsive liars and reflexively dishonest.

Of course, Arab hatred of Palestinians doesn't stop many of those airing it from using the Palestinian's plight as a vehicle through which to express and to legitimize insane hatred of Jews. You should have been here when Israel invaded Gaza-- non-stop Jew-hate, 24/7. Man oh man, it was something to behold.

34 posted on 07/04/2009 10:52:00 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Israel should be very clear about Iranian nukes. Clear that retaliation will not be limited to Iran, but all Muslim nations. That in the matter of a few hours, most of the Muslims of the world will be annihilated.

Mecca and Medina will be destroyed, and with dirty bombs that will make the area uninhabitable for hundreds or thousands of years. (Most fallout from a typical nuclear weapon is decays after only two weeks). And with those cities, all the other great religious sites of Islam.

Iran, though, will be worst hit, as will Damascus. An effort to eliminate all human life. Persia will be no more.

Absolutely. The  Official, and loudly proclaimed policy should be the complete annihilation of all mulsim "holy" places.

35 posted on 07/04/2009 11:29:01 AM PDT by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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To: ncfool
"The whole arab world will be cheering under their breath for Israel to do it."

Actually, as the Iranians are not Arabs, that is why the Arabs would be cheering.

36 posted on 07/04/2009 12:21:52 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: SJackson

ping


37 posted on 07/05/2009 8:39:02 AM PDT by GOPJ (Raped five year olds can get press at the Washington Post -if we can raise the money to buy access.)
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To: MistrX
I think the last time a sitting president was challenged was in '68. Of course LBj pulled the old "I won't run" speech, because he knew the writing was on the wall.

The same may happen in 2012 if the trend we are seeing continues.

38 posted on 07/05/2009 8:43:35 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: MrEdd
Of course, Israel admitted to a 200 warhead nuclear arsenal at the time the Oslo accords were negotiated in 1998. And military think tanks focused on the middle east believe they have added between 25 and 35 additional warheads each year since then. Israel also has submarines.

I suspect Iran would produce a very, very empty map. And Jews from around the globe would resettle Israel

This is the ONLY language that will be understood in the ME...

39 posted on 07/05/2009 9:13:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (Raped five year olds can get press at the Washington Post -if we can raise the money to buy access.)
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40 posted on 07/05/2009 6:20:02 PM PDT by SJackson (G-d da*n America, Jeremiah Wright---Don't tell me words don't matter!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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