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Youthful Ideals Shaped Obama Goal of Nuclear Disarmament [How Did We Get This Guy?]
NYTimes ^ | July 04th 2009

Posted on 07/04/2009 2:27:02 PM PDT by Steelfish

Youthful Ideals Shaped Obama Goal of Nuclear Disarmament

In college, Barack Obama wrote about nuclear arms. As a senator, he viewed a deactivated Russian nuclear missile.

By WILLIAM J. BROAD and DAVID E. SANGER

Published: July 4, 2009

In the depths of the cold war, in 1983, a senior at Columbia University wrote in a campus newsmagazine, Sundial, about the vision of “a nuclear free world.”

He railed against discussions of “first- versus second-strike capabilities” that “suit the military-industrial interests” with their “billion-dollar erector sets,” and agitated for the elimination of global arsenals holding tens of thousands of deadly warheads.

The student was Barack Obama, and he was clearly trying to sort out his thoughts. In the conclusion, he denounced “the twisted logic of which we are a part today” and praised student efforts to realize “the possibility of a decent world.”

But his article, “Breaking the War Mentality,” which only recently has been rediscovered, said little about how to achieve the utopian dream.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coldwar; nuclear

1 posted on 07/04/2009 2:27:02 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Being an idealist excuses nothing.

Hitler was an “idealist”. He was also a socialist, a vegetarian, a teatotaller, an antichristian who espoused a preverse, self-serving form of Christianity, a non-smoker, a drug abuser, a hypochondriac, childishly sentimental, a dilettante and a sexual deviant. He was enthralled by a superficial and superstitious naturalism. If he were alive today and living in Wisconsin, he’d be on the liberal arts faculty of a third rate community college.


2 posted on 07/04/2009 2:28:49 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: Steelfish

How did we get this guy?

Answer

1) Some conservatives stayed home because John McCain wasn’t perfect
2) Some conservatives stayed home because they wanted the GOP to “pay”.
3) Most people were not smart enough to see 0bama’s lies.
4) John McCain didn’t get his message across.


3 posted on 07/04/2009 2:29:25 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Steelfish
Why the typical Democrat Voter is how


4 posted on 07/04/2009 2:30:28 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Steelfish

“billion-dollar erector sets,”?

FUBO


5 posted on 07/04/2009 2:30:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Steelfish

Racist and communist mentors shaped Obama.


6 posted on 07/04/2009 2:30:56 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Perdogg

1) Some conservatives stayed home because John McCain wasn’t perfect
2) Some conservatives stayed home because they wanted the GOP to “pay”.
3) Most people were not smart enough to see 0bama’s lies.
4) John McCain didn’t get his message across.
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5) Some people will vote for ANYTHING with a “D” after its name.
6) Many do not even know what socialism and Marxism are about.
7) Many do not even know what the Bill of Rights is, and why it was written.
(My list just goes on)....


7 posted on 07/04/2009 2:33:17 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Steelfish

“billion-dollar erector sets,”

Way to dismiss us as children playing with tinker toys

FUBO


8 posted on 07/04/2009 2:33:23 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Steelfish
Question: "How Did We Get This Guy?"

Response: Degeneration of the governing class. A significant proportion of the populace has achieved a life lived at a bestial level: i.e. eating, drinking, drugs, copulating, evacuating the bowels and snoring.

9 posted on 07/04/2009 2:33:27 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Steelfish
How did we get this guy?

1. Black racism

2. White liberal guilt

3. The mainstream media

4. An ignorant citizenry whose knowledge of current events consists of little more than 30 second sound bites

A combination of the these is the reason why we are stuck with this walking disaster of a president.

10 posted on 07/04/2009 2:33:50 PM PDT by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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To: Steelfish
SPITBALLS?!

11 posted on 07/04/2009 2:34:45 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (...and never forget that!)
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To: Steelfish

12 posted on 07/04/2009 2:36:35 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Steelfish
But his article, “Breaking the War Mentality,” which only recently has been rediscovered, said little about how to achieve the utopian dream.

Just recently rediscovered, huh?

13 posted on 07/04/2009 2:36:53 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Steelfish

No previous American president has set out a step-by-step agenda for the elimination of nuclear arms.

No sirree bob. Reagan never sought to reduce nuclear proliferation


14 posted on 07/04/2009 2:38:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Perdogg
4) John McCain didn’t get his message across.

The problem is that McCain DID get his message across!!! He's a "maverick" - don't you remember? A more sorry candidate couldn't be found than this man.

I did not stay home - even though I hated John McCain - I voted for Sarah. But for GOD's sake - how much slop do you expect the right to take? He was the Titanic candidate, Sarah gave her best to his campaign, but it wasn't enough!

Politics as the GOP has been practicing it is officially over as of now - thanks to Sarah Palin. If having to endure Obama as our President helped to change the status quo - then that's how it has to be.

15 posted on 07/04/2009 2:39:31 PM PDT by alicewonders (Sarah Palin is the face of America's future.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
LOL!!!!


16 posted on 07/04/2009 2:39:59 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Steelfish

IIRC, he wrote his master’s thesis on this topic. Somehow, the thesis has “disappeared” and nobody in recent times has seen it.


17 posted on 07/04/2009 2:40:53 PM PDT by livius
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To: alicewonders

I am not going to sit here and argue with you, but there are people here on FR who can not explain to me what McCain heathcare plan was without looking it up.

Do you remember what it was?


18 posted on 07/04/2009 2:41:54 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg
“How did we get this guy?”

A couple decades of Hollyweird making movies with every “leader” (military, scientist, spiritual, whatnot) a black person. While the main fat-idiot-slob was always a white guy.

Then when the opportunity came to vote for a black person as president it didn't matter how horrible a candidate he was, people were too brainwashed to notice.

19 posted on 07/04/2009 2:42:18 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (...and never forget that!)
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To: Steelfish

It’s easy to figure out,the bankers chose o to promote their agenda so they backed him.Now o has allowed the bankers to rob and pillage America.Simple as that.Sad to say but bush did the same thing.


20 posted on 07/04/2009 2:42:52 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: Perdogg

Yes, I do remember - and Obama knocked it - now he is planning on doing the same thing.

McCain was still the worst candidate we’ve ever had.


21 posted on 07/04/2009 2:43:47 PM PDT by alicewonders (Sarah Palin is the face of America's future.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Did you notice in the movie “I am Legend” that the woman who invents the “cancer vaccine” looks like HRC?


22 posted on 07/04/2009 2:44:21 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: alicewonders

wrong. You don’t know what the plan was. McCain’s plan was endorsed by the CATO institute.


23 posted on 07/04/2009 2:45:44 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

...and a big part of that has been WHICH groups have immigrated into the country over the past few years.


24 posted on 07/04/2009 2:46:15 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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