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Change And Repent, Bishop Tells Gays
Telegraph(UK) ^ | July 04th 2009

Posted on 07/04/2009 2:58:17 PM PDT by Steelfish

Change And Repent, Bishop Tells Gays

A senior Church of England bishop has called on homosexuals to repent and "be changed" in comments that have infuriated equality campaigners.

By Jonathan Wynne-Jones, Religious Affairs Correspondent 04 Jul 2009

The Bishop of Rochester, Dr Michael Nazir-Ali, has defended traditional biblical teachings on homosexuality and said the Church should not be "rolled over by culture".

Dr Nazir-Ali spoke as tens of thousands of people, including Sarah Brown, the Prime Minister’s wife, joined the annual Pride London march to celebrate homosexual culture.

A war of words broke out between Labour and the Conservatives over the issue of homosexuality last week after a minister accused the Tories of having a "deep strain of homophobia" running through the party.

The bishop’s controversial comments will reignite the battle over homosexuality in the Church of England ahead of what promises to be a divisive week for Anglicanism.

Tomorrow, a new coalition of evangelical and Anglo-Catholic parishes, backed by Dr Nazir-Ali, will get under way, which critics have claimed is an attempt to create a "church within the church".

The organisers said The Queen, the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, had sent a message to the leaders of the movement saying she understood their concerns about the future of the Anglican Communion.

Next weekend the General Synod of the Church of England is meeting at York University. The following week, the Episcopal Church in America is expected to endorse liturgies for single sex marriage and allow more homosexuals to be made bishops.

In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, Dr Nazir-Ali said: "We want to uphold the traditional teaching of the Bible. We believe that God has revealed his purpose about how we are made.

"People who depart from this don’t share the same faith.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anglican; bishop; bornagain; churchogengland; gays; homosexualagenda; redemption; rochester; sin

1 posted on 07/04/2009 2:58:18 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

I sure hope this guy knows what he’s doing. Look what they did to William Wallace for going against the grain.


2 posted on 07/04/2009 3:03:06 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: Steelfish

Without an appeal directly to Christ, they have no chance of changing and phony repenting it pointless.


3 posted on 07/04/2009 3:03:36 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Steelfish
The Bishop of Rochester, Dr Michael Nazir-Ali, has defended traditional biblical teachings

At the rate things are headed, defending Biblical teachings will eventually be a "hate crime" all across in the PC West.

4 posted on 07/04/2009 3:05:02 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Steelfish
the Church should not be "rolled over by culture"

Amen

5 posted on 07/04/2009 3:05:21 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Mr. Mojo

BTTT


6 posted on 07/04/2009 3:05:58 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: Steelfish

It looks like we need a brand new graphic: Anglican-Bishop-with-a-Spine.


7 posted on 07/04/2009 3:06:28 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Steelfish

http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/gay-rights


8 posted on 07/04/2009 3:11:54 PM PDT by grumpa (VP)
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To: sionnsar; Huber

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9 posted on 07/04/2009 3:18:37 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Ouch! Good point about William Wallace. Unfortunately, the linked articles say the bishop is voluntarily retiring (he’s near sixty) and that his traditional values “rebellion” is fizzling out.

England is lost.


10 posted on 07/04/2009 3:19:10 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: Steelfish

Wow! A member of the Anglican Church leadership who is both heterosexual and speaks out!


11 posted on 07/04/2009 3:23:01 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Steelfish

Say what?
12 posted on 07/04/2009 3:27:52 PM PDT by meandog (Doh!)
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To: Steelfish

Here is what O says on this issue last week:

President tells gay leaders at White House: “I will not only be your friend, I will continue to be an ally and a champion and a president who fights with you and for you.”


13 posted on 07/04/2009 3:28:06 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: Steelfish

Oh my gosh.

He is being, dare I say it....

JUDGMENTAL.


14 posted on 07/04/2009 3:33:54 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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15 posted on 07/04/2009 3:55:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: garjog

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16 posted on 07/04/2009 4:08:39 PM PDT by northislander
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17 posted on 07/04/2009 4:16:57 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - murdered by illegitimate government)
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To: Steelfish

“Dr Nazir-Ali...”

If the church chooses to promote an Arab Christian (i.e., Dr. Nazir), with what appears to be a Muslim wife (i.e., Ali), they sure as heck better expect some defense of traditional values...because that what they will get regardless of what they wish.

I guy with that name doesn’t exactly walk around in lavender all day.


18 posted on 07/04/2009 4:24:07 PM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: Steelfish; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...

Many will return Home to Rome as they discover the reality of One Universal Church versus one universal enemy.


19 posted on 07/04/2009 4:25:40 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: meandog

Fabulous post!


20 posted on 07/04/2009 4:44:59 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: narses
Many will return Home to Rome as they discover the reality of One Universal Church versus one universal enemy.

The "Universal Church" are those born-again by the Blood of Jesus Christ, not the members of a specific church, Catholic or otherwise.
21 posted on 07/04/2009 5:36:02 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Nazir-Ali has been at this for awhile. He knows well what he is up against with the pervert lobby in full cry against him.
22 posted on 07/04/2009 5:44:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: BobL

Dr. Nazir-Ali is of Pakistani background. Regardless, he is a treasure. Needless to say, he receives almost constant death threats from Muslims.

There are few things more wonderful than immigrants who fully “get” the West and the greatness of its traditions.


23 posted on 07/04/2009 5:46:46 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: denydenydeny

> “The Bishop of Rochester, Dr Michael Nazir-Ali, has defended traditional biblical teachings on homosexuality and said the Church should not be “rolled over by culture”.<

(clapping)


24 posted on 07/04/2009 5:49:08 PM PDT by max americana
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To: SoConPubbie

Really? The other view is that those who join the Mystical Body of Our Lord are the Universal Church. That is the teaching that has been true since the very first.


25 posted on 07/04/2009 6:00:15 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: denydenydeny

“Dr. Nazir-Ali is of Pakistani background. Regardless, he is a treasure. Needless to say, he receives almost constant death threats from Muslims.

There are few things more wonderful than immigrants who fully “get” the West and the greatness of its traditions.”

AWESOME GUY...that is courage.


26 posted on 07/04/2009 6:44:11 PM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: Steelfish

God bless and keep him. I hoped and prayed he would be Archbishop of Canterbury instead of Rowan Williams.


27 posted on 07/04/2009 6:46:38 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Steelfish

For Heaven’s sake, the good bishop is entitled to free speech. What Nazis these homosexual activists are, who apparently now run the UK government.


28 posted on 07/04/2009 8:24:02 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Steelfish

Speaking the Truth to power. That’s what religious leaders are supposed to do.


29 posted on 07/04/2009 8:35:37 PM PDT by Antoninus (I'm with Palin -- let's take the political fight in another direction...)
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To: narses
Really? The other view is that those who join the Mystical Body of Our Lord are the Universal Church. That is the teaching that has been true since the very first.

Sorry, but your Lord and Master, Jesus Christ sees this different from you. Your teaching is of fallible man, not of God. It may be true as far as the Catholic Church is true, however, with regards to God, it is not.

In Jesus' own words:

John Chapter 3

1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
30 posted on 07/05/2009 9:26:45 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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