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Oh, dear...
Posted on 07/06/2009 12:57:20 AM PDT by Kaslin
President Obama hosted a reception at the White House celebrating LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender) Pride month. Black Christians should take note and learn a few things about our black President.
As they say, we are what we do.
It tells us something that Mr. Obama had no time to host an event for the National Day of Prayer.
Nor did he have time to accept the invitation to convey greetings and a few remarks to the couple hundred thousand who came to Washington, as they do every January, for the March for Life.
However, the LGBT Pride event did make it onto the president's busy schedule.
Here are parts of his remarks I think noteworthy for black Christians:
First, we now know that Mr. Obama buys into reasoning equating the homosexual political movement to the black civil rights movement: "....it's not for me to tell you to be patient any more than it was for others to counsel patience to African Americans who were petitioning for equal rights a half century ago."
Perhaps Obama can extend some of his famous empathy to a black Christian woman, Crystal Dixon, who lost her University of Toledo job for writing a column in her local paper challenging this premise. Dixon was fired for being uppity enough to write "....I take great umbrage at the notion that those choosing the homosexual lifestyle are 'civil rights victims' ...I cannot wake up tomorrow and not be a black woman."
Considering our president's priorities, I recall a song popular during the civil rights movement: "Which Side Are You On?"
Second, Obama sees the black community as being a little slow on the uptake to grasp that homosexuality and same sex marriage are okay. There still are those, according to him, "who don't yet fully embrace their gay brothers and sisters..." He deals with this, he said, by talking about it in front of "unlikely audiences," such as, "in front of African American church members."
Maybe a lot of us black folks, still readin' our Bibles, just haven't had enough of that Harvard learnin'.
And, third, Obama talked about HIV/AIDS but didn't bother to mention that it's overwhelmingly blacks that this scourge is killing.
Why would our black president discuss HIV/AIDS and not mention that although blacks represent 12 percent of our population, they account for 50 percent of HIV/AIDS cases and half of HIV related deaths? Or that the incidence of HIV/AIDS infection per every 100,000 people is 9 times higher among blacks than whites?
Of course, it would have been bad form for Obama to sour the punch bowl at the LBGT Pride month festivities by mentioning the disproportionate toll this lifestyle takes on blacks.
Blacks, of course, made the difference in getting Proposition 8 passed in California, which defined marriage as between a man and a woman. They then switched over and voted for Obama.
Obama has said he opposes same sex marriage. Can this really be so? He said at the White House event that he's called for Congress to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act. DOMA is the main obstacle to nationalizing legalization of same sex marriage.
Black Christians have a lot of soul searching to do. We know the pain of black history. But we also must retain clarity that these many injustices were the result of race and color trumping Christian principles.
How can black Christians do this themselves? How can black Christians allow race and color to trump Christian principles in driving their support for a leader?
Particularly as sexually transmitted diseases kill our people, when a third of all abortions are black babies, and the only hope for future black prosperity is restoration of the black family?
You are who you hang out with also! He, Obama, hung out with some pretty shady characters!
When I was in college we had a “Gay and Lesbian Alliance” on campus. The issue of bi-sexuality would sometimes get addressed by activists in this movement and many, if not most, comments I read or heard was that bisexuals were either confused homosexuals trying to live two lives or just plain confused and not to be associated with any civil rights struggle.
Now these groups include bisexuals in their names and agenda. Good political move as there are a lot of experimental females nowadays (thanks to porn, manipulative boyfriends, the influence of the music or entertainment industry, etc.) that you can incorporate into the gay agenda. No, they are not leather guys, tinkerbells or bull dykes or even lipstick lesbians — just females who think they are being trendy and maybe getting the opportunity (if white and probably most are) to be able to identify with an “oppressed” minority. Again, it can’t help but benefit the gay rights movement and the party of Obama, Reid and Pelosi as well. Great psychology and all it takes is including “bisexual” in the name of your group and have the president recognize it as well.
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Star Parker is such a blessing for conservatives and Christians. I agree with her that it’s a sad thing when a Christian votes race over faith, and she does an excellent job showing how it’s foolish to be faithful while supporting someone, like Obama, who is diametrically opposed to the precepts of that same faith.
My hope here is that blacks leave the Democrat plantation and join with other like-minded folks to elect conservatives in future elections. School vouchers, social conservatism, equal treatment regardless of skin color...that’s US!
Almost every single black person I work with claims to be a die-hard Believer.
These same people voted for the baby-killer in chief - and by doing so have as much blood on their hands as he does.
Boiled down to “Satan is crafty”.
My experience, even with a white liberal female, was that they simply DENY his abortion record.
“No, that’s infanticed, he’s not in favor of that! That’s absurd!”
Want to see proof, in his own words?
“NO”
[sp]infanticide[/sp]
I actually know a black Christian mom who wrote a letter to her teenaged daughter on Obama’s inauguration day in which she made it sound as if, for the first time in her life, she felt like she was somebody. I thought to myself, how sad. That a woman who had been redeemed by our Lord, and is now regarded by the God of the Universe as a daughter of the King—how could she be so identified by her skin color to think that now that the Obamessiah is president, she somehow finally has value.
It was pathetic.
mom4melody: “These same people voted for the baby-killer in chief - and by doing so have as much blood on their hands as he does.”
Without a doubt.
Blacks vote as a nearly monolithic block for Democrats. Yet, what have the Democrats ever done for blacks beyond adopting policies generally harmful to blacks themselves?
Example: Proposition 8. Supported by a clear black majority. Yet, Obama is clearly going to do everything he can to impose gay marriage and open homosexuality in the military. He’s already sending feelers out on the military’s Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy.
Example: School Vouchers in DC. Funding eliminated by Democrats, yet inner-city blacks were some of the biggest beneficiaries. Obama chose teachers unions over his biggest supporters, blacks.
Are blacks gullible, ill-informed, or what? According to Star Parker, race is more important to them than faith. Unless someone else has a better explanation, I’m led to accept hers.
No matter how you slice it, it doesn’t reflect well on blacks in general.
Before someone accuses me of being racist, I’m speaking in generalities. Generally speaking, blacks vote in droves for the very people who harm black interests. There are notable exceptions.
erkyl: “It was pathetic.”
It’s also pathetic to see the way white liberals talk down to blacks. Affirmative action is incredibly demeaning. It’s as if a black person can’t make it without extra help. How sad, seriously.
BTW, I’m starting to think it’s also pathetic for conservatives to continue supporting RINOs who talk tough in elections and then sell us out EVERY #(%&# TIME! Conservatives are to the Republican Party like blacks are to the Democrat party. Neither of us are taken seriously by the people we put into office (generally speaking again, of course).
How can black Christians do this themselves? How can black Christians allow race and color to trump Christian principles in driving their support for a leader?
"Skin color trumping chr*stian principles" is not what gets the blame for the Ku-Klux Klan, lynching, jim crow, slavery, etc. . . . chr*stianity itself does. And fanatical right wing nationalism (by the "oppressed") is seen as the solution (and as somehow "left wing" in the process).
I used to believe that at a certain point the Black church would stop backing liberal Democrats. I no longer believe that. If such a thing were going to happen, it would have been long ago. Instead we now have people who believe marriage is between a man and a woman painted as "dangerous radicals" and the Black church is still backing Democrats. And if "gay marriage" is foisted on us, it will be from the courts full of the appointees of Democrat administrations, and referenda will not be able to stop it.
Part of the problem lies in a fatal flaw of chr*stianity. May making G-d into a human being (G-d forbid!)--making Him "one of us"--one naturally opens up a can of worms with regard to who "us" is. It doesn't take long for merely being a fellow human being to be insufficient. Now he must be one of our own race, our own country, our own tribe. Thus J*sus morphs very quickly from universal messiah to tribal deity. Small wonder chr*stians have always been divided ethnically as well as theologically.
Part of the problem lies with the nature of the accursed Democrat party itself. When you consider that you still have Southern whites voting Democrat out of hatred for Abraham Lincoln, it's hardly surprising that Blacks are still voting for FDR or LBJ. If white Southerners don't care what the Democrats do to this country, why should Blacks?
I am quite willing to believe--and I do believe--that the current political situation, in which Blacks vote for anti-religious liberals (and get treated with kid gloves for it) is a just payback for centuries of slavery, jim crow, and racism. However, I also believe this is an example of the Divine Wrath that awaits the Black church in the future for its alliance with Satan and sin.
Payback is, and will always be, a you-know-what.
I am quite willing to believe--and I do believe--that the current political situation, in which Blacks vote for anti-religious liberals (and get treated with kid gloves for it) is a just payback for centuries of slavery, jim crow, and racism. However, I also believe this is an example of the Divine Wrath that awaits the Black church in the future for its alliance with Satan and sin.'
While I do agree with certain points in your post, here's where I think you are wrong: In assuming there is going to be 'Divine Wrath against the Black Church and its alliance with Satan and Sin' you definitely are way off the mark. There's plenty of that to go around in many Liberal churches throughout America, particularly those who openly embrace Homosexuality.
And before you assume I'm some DU Lurker, I am a Black Christian who did not vote for Zero, who fully understands where Ms. Parker is coming from and shares her grief on this issue.
I hope I made it clear that we are in this mess right now because the white churches are currently being judged for their alliance with Satan and sin. And it isn't just the racist churches that are suffering; the guilty and the innocent are suffering together. It makes no difference that jim crow died between thirty and forty years ago, for "the wheels of G-d grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine." I am afraid something similar lies in the future for the Black churches.
And before you assume I'm some DU Lurker, I am a Black Christian who did not vote for Zero, who fully understands where Ms. Parker is coming from and shares her grief on this issue.
I wish there were more Black chr*stians like you.
Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
Oh, dear...
christian
christianity
God
Jesus
... the last two capitalized out of respect.
Agreed with most of your post -- except the 3rd paragraph (of course).
Man's problem is what it has always been: idolatry (John's epistles constantly warns us against this sin - as he closes his first epistle:
(1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.).
Idolatry of Nationalism, skin color, class, wealth, education, etc ... we are always putting things ahead of God.
Everyone knows who Jesus IS - God manifest in the flesh, borne of a virgin of the line of David, the promised seed of Genesis 3:15 who would crush the head of the serpent (who Eve mistakenly thought would be her first borne son, Cain: Genesis 4:1c "...I have gotten a man from the LORD". ... She was correct that the man who would crush satan would have to be 'with the LORD' - i.e., the 'God-Man', i.e., Immanuel - God with us; she was just off by 4000 years...).
The problem isn't what family Jesus was borne into. Everyone knows that -- the problem is our diseased sinful nature to create idols...
Well said, El Cid. Well said.
There are plenty more...you just don't hear about us in the MSM, at least not in a positive way.
As I said, I believed a line would be drawn at a certain point in the institutional Black church's support of liberalism, but that line was crossed long ago (hence my own bitterness).
There are no two communities in the world so similar as poor rural Southern whites and poor Blacks. Their cuisine, their speech patterns, their history, their music, their religion, their superstitions--everything is so similar. I'll never understand the wide divergence in politics. Most Blacks worship like gap-toothed snake-handling West Virginia hillbillies but they vote like wealthy northeastern secular humanists. And while I at one time believed that this was due to a small leftist leadership I have long since concluded that if the Black masses were as fundamentalist as they acted a Black fundamentalist would occasionally get elected to something, even if it were only dogcatcher. Instead, so far as I can tell, almost every single Black politician in the country, no matter how rural and fundamentalist his upbringing, is a screaming across-the-board liberal. And you can find plenty of left wing intellectualism on the Net from rank and file Blacks who are not politicians at all.
We must be eating different poke sallet or something.
No...I wouldn't say that, rather it is that we recognize the sovereignty of God in our lives and realize that no man, especially a politician could never possess His attributes or abilities.
To quote Andrew Wilcow: 'We are right, they are wrong. End of story.'
I didn’t mean you and I were eating different poke sallet. I was being bitterly humorous about the wide divergence in the politics of otherwise practically identical poor Southern white and poor Black communities.
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