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I've gotten the American Community Survey in the mail
Til I am the last man standing | 7-6-09 | Vanity

Posted on 07/06/2009 8:10:56 AM PDT by Til I am the last man standing

I have just received the American Community Survey form from the Census Bureau. This is the replacement for the 2010 long form and is being given randomly to a certain number of households. My knee jerk reaction was to chuck it and wait for my official Census Form to come in order to only give my name, rank, and serial number. However, I started looking at what my answers to the questions would be (ie. Caucasian, US citizen, Suburban driving, self-employed professional, non-grandchild rearing, enabled not disabled) and started to think maybe my lifestyle needs to be counted. What do the freepers think?


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1 posted on 07/06/2009 8:10:57 AM PDT by Til I am the last man standing
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To: Til I am the last man standing

Yes, every self-reliant non-parasite they count helps stop the socialization of our country.


2 posted on 07/06/2009 8:13:01 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Til I am the last man standing

I say no. Make ‘em beg for it. It’s a small piece of resistance. The data will be used exclusively to “fix” “social problems” that are non-existent, at your expense.

The other alternative it to flagrently lie about everything on it to jam the system with bad data.

Merely doing a good job filling it out is helping the bad guys. (Obama’s rouge regime)


3 posted on 07/06/2009 8:13:50 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Til I am the last man standing

Do you live in a red state or a blue state?


4 posted on 07/06/2009 8:13:57 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jack Black

“The other alternative it to flagrently lie about everything on it to jam the system with bad data.”

I concur. If in a blue state, no one lives there.

If in a red state, all children still live there, as do all your pets, who are people, too.

ACORN will be counting dead people in Detroit. It needs to be balanced.


5 posted on 07/06/2009 8:15:34 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Til I am the last man standing
Give them only the information they are Constitutionally entitled to.
6 posted on 07/06/2009 8:15:45 AM PDT by armymarinedad (Support, v., To take the side of; to uphold or help.)
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To: Til I am the last man standing

In bold letters, write “NOYFB” across it and return it.


7 posted on 07/06/2009 8:15:45 AM PDT by wny
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To: Jack Black
(Obama’s rouge regime)

Funny ...

Is that "rogue" as in "out of control" or "rouge" as in "red communist"?

Either way, it's accurate.

8 posted on 07/06/2009 8:16:17 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Til I am the last man standing
The ACS is VERY invasive and I will NOT fill the answers in to their liking.

On questions that I feel are none of their business I will put N/A.
I answered the question, just not they way they would like.

9 posted on 07/06/2009 8:16:22 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Til I am the last man standing

Do you think it really matters? The politicians, socialists and special interests that run our country don’t care how you live. They intend to exterminate the middle class whether it’s one person or millions.

Like Stalin said: One death is a tragedy. One million deaths is a statistic. You fill out the census, you are just part of a statistic.


10 posted on 07/06/2009 8:16:54 AM PDT by henkster (Bumper Sticker: Please don't tell 0bama what comes after a Trillion!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Well I have been experimenting with new Obama names like Pol Bama and Obama Pot.


11 posted on 07/06/2009 8:18:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Jewbacca

Texas


12 posted on 07/06/2009 8:20:04 AM PDT by Til I am the last man standing
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To: armymarinedad

Nah, this is the time to be passive aggressive. Stay off the radar, while screwing them.

Just supply junk info, inflate red ares, deflate blue areas.


13 posted on 07/06/2009 8:20:12 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Til I am the last man standing
I got mine last week. I am sitting on it ponder how i will respond. I am considering seeking assistance from Congressman Bachmann, who I am of the understanding, she will only respond to them what they are constitutionally entitled to receive. That is, number of persons in the household, period....
14 posted on 07/06/2009 8:21:52 AM PDT by Born In America ("O.B.A.M.A.: One Big A** Mistake, America....")
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To: Til I am the last man standing

Texas is a safe red state. ACORN will be intentionally suppressing votes there.

Remember, Congressinal representation is based on population.

So all your pets are people. Your kids who moved away live with you.

And the rest of the data? Well, I guess some Eskimos live in Texas.


15 posted on 07/06/2009 8:22:19 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

With a name like ‘Jack Black’ I’d say the poster was aiming to instruct by referencing color ... as in rouge, commie red, especially with this current crop of Marxist bass turds floating through Washington.


16 posted on 07/06/2009 8:23:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Til I am the last man standing
The American Community Survey (ACS) is a nationwide survey designed to provide communities a fresh look at how they are changing. It is a critical element in the Census Bureau's reengineered decennial census program. The ACS collects and produces population and housing information every year instead of every ten years.

No basis for this in the constitution. It is govt. run amok and will result in more oppressive central planning from bureaucrats in Washington.

After reading some of the questions I would tell them to "shove it."

17 posted on 07/06/2009 8:23:17 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: La Lydia
I don't have much faith in the count. It gives me the creeps to think the census count may be similar to the election returns in the Iranian election. I know, I know, I'm just an old vet who thinks that everything coming out of Washington is bad, my emails are being monitored as are my cell calls, my movement is being monitored, the only people telling the truth are Rush,Glen,Sean and Pete King.I also believe that Sarah Palin is the true hope for the future of our Republic and both parties hate her because she's honest. I know, I'm a lunatic. I should just sit in the corner and suck my thumb till socialize medicine gives me my Soilent Green allotment and some pain killer to ease the pain from an injury that won't be treated due to my unproductive age.
18 posted on 07/06/2009 8:23:22 AM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: Til I am the last man standing

There was a funny story of a man who wrote “egg” in response to all the census questions and then acted like a lunatic when an angry census worker showed up to get his information. Too bad I cant find it.


19 posted on 07/06/2009 8:24:50 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Jewbacca

We are thinking of claiming “Native American” - both of us were born here and we ARE Americans. They’ll probably wonder how the indians got off the reservation!


20 posted on 07/06/2009 8:25:18 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Just another Joe

DO NOT LEAVE ANY LINE BLANK.

The cronies at acorn will fill in your blanks as they see fit.

USE INK not pencil.

Copy every page of your form in case this explodes in acorn’s face. In time, help hell to break loose.


21 posted on 07/06/2009 8:25:37 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: smokingfrog

The Census Bureau estimates that, for the average
household, this form will take 38 minutes to complete,
including the time for reviewing the instructions and
answers. Send comments regarding this burden estimate
or any other aspect of this collection of information,
including suggestions for reducing this burden, to:
Paperwork Project 0607-0810, U.S. Census Bureau,
4600 Silver Hill Road, AMSD – 3K138, Washington, D.C.
20233. You may e-mail comments to
Paperwork@census.gov; use “Paperwork Project
0607-0810” as the subject. Please DO NOT RETURN
your questionnaire to this address. Use the enclosed
preaddressed envelope to return your completed
questionnaire.
Respondents are not required to respond to any
information collection unless it displays a valid approval
number from the Office of Management and Budget.
This 8-digit number appears in the bottom right on the
front cover of this form.


22 posted on 07/06/2009 8:26:32 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: Til I am the last man standing
If it looks like junk mail, it will be treated like junk mail.
23 posted on 07/06/2009 8:27:22 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Have you punished an 0bama supporter today?)
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To: shadeaud

don’t forget that you are also a potential domestic terrorist...


24 posted on 07/06/2009 8:27:22 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Do you want a President or a King?)
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To: RebelTXRose

Your race, under law, is defined as the “race you deem yourself.”

So put whatever the mood strikes you.

(I’ll probably be the first “black” Jew since Sammy Davis, Jr.)


25 posted on 07/06/2009 8:28:00 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Til I am the last man standing
Hmmmm ... I think I'll be an unemployed 75 year old, collecting welfare, homosexual, with 17 children, 45 grandchildren, all physically impaired (and collecting SS ), both parents living with me, their sole supporter, Living rural with no public transportation, 6 TV's, 2 cable and 1 satalite accounts, own 27 guns (2 of which are full auto), Samoan.

Yeah, THAT'S the ticket.

26 posted on 07/06/2009 8:28:11 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Til I am the last man standing

It is my opinion that this census is the best chance of rebellion possible.

Don’t give them anything but the count.

Let them try to fine us all for their unconstitutional demands.

Send it to court.

Rebel!


27 posted on 07/06/2009 8:28:57 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: George from New England

Is this form anywhere on line? I’ve seen the short form but not the long.

If I get one I’m inclined to over answer each question in such twisted detail that the answer will be correct but they’ll never figure out what it is. I’d also add attachments with further detail, likewise hopelessly confusing.

I’d agree with keeping a copy.


28 posted on 07/06/2009 8:29:13 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Til I am the last man standing
Even if you make the (wrong in my opinion) decision to fill it out, make them work for it. Force them to mail you a second one. Force them to make multiple phone calls to you in the second month. Even make them drive to your house a few times to try to get you to answer the question. Turn this from one mailing and a little data entry into a $100 data collection effort. If everyone did this it would make the ACS too expensive to keep.
29 posted on 07/06/2009 8:30:52 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: shadeaud
"till socialize medicine gives me my Soilent Green allotment and some pain killer to ease the pain from an injury that won't be treated due to my unproductive age."...

Not to worry. Our herd will soon be culled as Obambi Marches On..... /sarc

30 posted on 07/06/2009 8:31:14 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Jewbacca
Nah, this is the time to be passive aggressive. Stay off the radar, while screwing them. Just supply junk info, inflate red ares, deflate blue areas.

Sorry but I must disagree. I see no reason to sully my reputation by acting like a liberal and lying to them. I will give them the information they are entitled to, nothing more and nothing less. Some census information is necessary.

31 posted on 07/06/2009 8:31:43 AM PDT by armymarinedad (Support, v., To take the side of; to uphold or help.)
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To: Til I am the last man standing

Anything you say can and will be used against you.


32 posted on 07/06/2009 8:31:48 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

33 posted on 07/06/2009 8:32:27 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: stefanbatory

I have had several sets of bumper stickers stolen off my Suburban. They are targeting my “Warning: I am a bitter gun owner clinging to my religion”. It has been taken 3 times while the others have named Obama as a socialist. Someone thinks I am a domestic terrorist.


34 posted on 07/06/2009 8:32:40 AM PDT by Til I am the last man standing
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Is this form anywhere on line? I’ve seen the short form but not the long.

Here it is: http://www.census.gov/acs/www/SBasics/SQuest/SQuest1.htm

35 posted on 07/06/2009 8:34:06 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: Til I am the last man standing

I’m with you. Census intrusion will not be defeated by the good guys not participating, it will only be reined in when we have a real patriot majority in Congress again. Better to add a good-guy profile to the count and work on improving Congress.


36 posted on 07/06/2009 8:36:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Til I am the last man standing
I am following Congress Woman's Michele Backman (Sorry if I miss spelled her name) lead, the constitution only requires how many in the house hold. I'm not telling the Thug in Chief anything else. Do you really want acorn to know what time you leave your house in the morning and get home at night? They will know when it is safe for them to break in. Don't forget who berry is, he is acorn.
37 posted on 07/06/2009 8:37:15 AM PDT by Anti-Christ is Hillary (If Moreen Dowd can call herself a journalist then so can I.)
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To: armymarinedad
Suit yourself.

All is fair in love and war, including deception. I consider it a false flag maneuver.

38 posted on 07/06/2009 8:37:22 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: armymarinedad
"Some census information is necessary."

And what do you consider "necessary census iformation", other than the number of persons living in the household?

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Swear allegiance to the flag, whatever flag they offer;
Never hint at what you really feel.
Teach the children quietly for, someday, sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still.

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39 posted on 07/06/2009 8:37:32 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Think Of It As Evolution in Action)
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To: Til I am the last man standing

Q. How many toilets are installed in your place of residence?

A. None. (We don’t use toilets, it’s against our religion)

You get the general idea, run with it....


40 posted on 07/06/2009 8:40:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RebelTXRose

“We are thinking of claiming “Native American”

Awesome! Great idea, LOL!


41 posted on 07/06/2009 8:41:18 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: smokingfrog

Considering thats not the official census document I would throw it away.


42 posted on 07/06/2009 8:44:19 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: BlueLancer
And what do you consider "necessary census iformation", other than the number of persons living in the household?

ages, citizenship, the things you need to determine congressional districts.

43 posted on 07/06/2009 8:45:30 AM PDT by armymarinedad (Support, v., To take the side of; to uphold or help.)
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To: Jewbacca

“Your race, under law, is defined as the ‘race you deem yourself.’”

Could you inform me of the pertinent laws, rulings, or precedents?


44 posted on 07/06/2009 8:47:03 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Til I am the last man standing

......non-grandchild rearing......

Nor former crack user/dealer


45 posted on 07/06/2009 8:47:04 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war in Detriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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To: Til I am the last man standing

How many people living at the house. That’s it. Everything else they can figure out (if they’re half intelligent) by standing on the public sidewalk and observing the publicly viewable areas of my house.


46 posted on 07/06/2009 8:52:33 AM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: armymarinedad
"Ages, citizenship, the things you need to determine congressional districts."

Yes, citizenship seems reasonable. However, when blocking out the congressional districts, I thought it was not total population of that district that was determinative, not the population of voting-age individuals.

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RESISTOR

Swear allegiance to the flag, whatever flag they offer;
Never hint at what you really feel.
Teach the children quietly for, someday, sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still.

Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK)

47 posted on 07/06/2009 8:53:04 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Think Of It As Evolution in Action)
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To: armymarinedad

Your reply makes sense. In our case, if we received that form, we might make a case for including information about the farm.

Sort of like in “Horton hears a who ...” “We are here, we are here!”

Would hate to see all of rural American completely forgotten.


48 posted on 07/06/2009 8:58:54 AM PDT by Cloverfarm (Where are we going, and why are we in a hand-basket?)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Not without extensive research; we came across it because my sister and her husband (Jewish, Israeli-American dual cit) adopted a girl from China (now Jewish, Israeli-American) 20 years ago and were baffled by the form and also by college applications that inquired into such matters.

The take-away pieces of information I got were:

1. You are whatever race you deem yourself. It is completely self-identified. The law was to over-rule the “one drop” rules related to slavery and voting.

2. If multi-racial, you can now check more than one box, but if one of the boxes is white, you are almost always deemed “white” for statistical and affirmative action purposes, especially if you check white and native american.

3. For affirmative action purposes, unless your last name is traditionally Hispanic, you are not Hispanic, no matter what you check, even if you came from Mexico and your back is still wet.

4. If you check “other,” you are white.

5. You are “Native American” for affirmative action purposes only if you have a card that states what tribe you belong to. (Apparently, there are now tribes that let you join for a price; good for them.)


49 posted on 07/06/2009 9:00:34 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: acoulterfan

I think I’m a Native American; I was born here and have never lived anyplace else. There’s a problem, though, with listing this on the census form, because you are then asked to list your tribe. Any ideas?


50 posted on 07/06/2009 9:01:03 AM PDT by July4
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