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(Muslims & violence) Ethnic riots spread in China's west; 140 killed
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Posted on 07/06/2009 9:18:37 AM PDT by Righting

Ethnic riots spread in China's west; 140 killed... Police sealed off streets in parts of the provincial capital, Urumqi, after discord between ethnic Muslim Uighur people and China's Han majority erupted into violence. Witnesses reported a new, smaller protest Monday in a second city, Kashgar.

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KEYWORDS: chicoms; china; chinaesemuslims; commieviolence; godsgravesglyphs; islam; islamicviolence; muslims; tinanmensquare; uighurs
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1 posted on 07/06/2009 9:18:37 AM PDT by Righting
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To: Righting

If China has any sense they will put as fast stop to the muslims by whatever means necessary.


3 posted on 07/06/2009 9:23:19 AM PDT by flash2368 (Scary Times)
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To: Righting

I had a feeling about this when we saw masses of flying carpets mobilizing before crouching tigers.


4 posted on 07/06/2009 9:23:39 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Righting
O was just asked about this at presser, said he knew nothing about it so could not give a statement but would have his staff get back to you with an answer. Said he had been traveling and had not had time to watch or read the news.
6 posted on 07/06/2009 9:25:07 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

China has a large population of ethnic Turks in the western part of the country and it takes quite an effort to keep them down.


7 posted on 07/06/2009 9:25:26 AM PDT by Feasor13
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Uigurs and Han Chinese are very different people. Different ethnicity, different appearance, different language, different dress, different religion, etc.

Having been to Urumqi and Kashgar, I am not necessarily faulting the Muslim Uigurs in this case.


8 posted on 07/06/2009 9:26:10 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: TornadoAlley3
Said he had been traveling and had not had time to watch or read the news.

Zero is a brainless, classless, spineless buffoon.

He's also the Kommunist Kenyan Klown.

9 posted on 07/06/2009 9:26:40 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: flash2368

If China has any sense they will put as fast stop to the muslims by whatever means necessary

Or, they could send them all to an island paradise.


10 posted on 07/06/2009 9:26:59 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: flash2368

>If China has any sense they will put as fast stop to the muslims by whatever means necessary.<

LMAO
Grassroot Right supports a Communist Regime. The times they are changing :o)


11 posted on 07/06/2009 9:28:02 AM PDT by Kampfschwimmer
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To: flash2368
If China has any sense they will put as fast stop to the muslims by whatever means necessary.

Don't fall for Chinese government propaganda on this issue. Though there are Uighur terorist groups, the Uighurs have the same legitimate complaints against the Chinese government as do many other ethnic groups in China, such as the Tibetans.

12 posted on 07/06/2009 9:29:49 AM PDT by Blackacre
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To: Kampfschwimmer

“Religion of peace” at it again.


13 posted on 07/06/2009 9:30:20 AM PDT by Cheryllynn
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I think it is the Chinese vs. the Muslims.?


14 posted on 07/06/2009 9:31:08 AM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: flash2368
If China has any sense they will put as fast stop to the muslims by whatever means necessary.

Are you proposing genocide? The Uighurs have lived in that area far longer than the Han. By what right should the Han "put a fast stop to" the Uighurs?

15 posted on 07/06/2009 9:31:25 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Cheryllynn
“Religion of peace” at it again.

This one is TROP vs Bloody Handed Communists.

Don't be too quick to assign fault.

16 posted on 07/06/2009 9:31:37 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Righting

Muslims & Violence. A correlation?


17 posted on 07/06/2009 9:31:54 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Communists & Violence. A correlation?


18 posted on 07/06/2009 9:32:32 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Blackacre
Don't fall for Chinese government propaganda on this issue. Though there are Uighur terorist groups, the Uighurs have the same legitimate complaints against the Chinese government as do many other ethnic groups in China, such as the Tibetans.

I agree. The Chinese are bastards toward their conquered minorities.

19 posted on 07/06/2009 9:33:06 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Kampfschwimmer

The Enemy of my Enemy is my... Enemy?


20 posted on 07/06/2009 9:33:35 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Communists, Muslims and Violence. A trifecta?


21 posted on 07/06/2009 9:34:42 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Righting

Good, it couldn’t have happen to nicer Marxists.


22 posted on 07/06/2009 9:35:13 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: flash2368

Don’t be so naive as to assume the ChiComs are telling the truth here. Remember the Tiananmen Square massacre?

From the article...

“We ask the international community to condemn China’s killing of innocent Uighurs. This is a very dark day in the history of the Uighur people,” said Alim Seytoff, vice president of the Washington, D.C.-based Uyghur American Association.

Chinese officials singled out the leader of the association — Rebiya Kadeer, a former prominent Xinjiang businesswoman now living in Washington — for inciting the violence.

“Rebiya had phone conversations with people in China on July 5 in order to incite, and Web sites ... were used to orchestrate the incitement and spread propaganda,” Xinjiang Governor Nur Bekri said on television early Monday.

Xinjiang’s top Communist Party official, Wang Lequan, called the riots “a profound lesson learned in blood.”

“We must tear away Rebiya’s mask and let the world see her true nature,” Wang said.

The government has accused Kadeer of having a hand in many of Xinjiang’s problems since her release from prison into U.S. exile in 2005. The Foreign Ministry has publicly accused the 62-year-old of having links to the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a group the U.S. put on its terrorist blacklist.

Beijing has not provided evidence to support the allegation, and Kadeer denies the claim. She has repeatedly called for nonviolent protest.

On “Oriental Horizon,” a current affairs program aired on China Central Television on Monday night, a scholar from the government’s Chinese Academy of Social Science blamed Kadeer for masterminding the riots.

The half-hour program, which was devoted to the Urumqi violence, also showcased footage shown on earlier newscasts.

The clashes in Urumqi echoed last year’s unrest in Tibet, when a peaceful demonstration by monks in the capital of Lhasa erupted into riots that spread to surrounding areas, leaving at least 22 dead. The Chinese government accused Tibet’s exiled spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, of orchestrating the violence — a charge he denied.

Seytoff said he had heard from two sources that at least two dozen people had been killed by gunfire or crushed by armored police vehicles just outside Xinjiang University.

Mamet, a 36-year-old restaurant worker, said he saw People’s Armed Police attack students outside Xinjiang University.

“First they fired tear gas at the students. Then they started beating them and shooting them with bullets. Big trucks arrived, and students were rounded up and arrested,” Mamet said.

Previous mass protests in Xinjiang that were quelled by armed forces became signal events for the separatist movement. In 1990, about 200 Uighurs shouting for holy war protested through Baren, a town near the Afghan border, resulting in violence that left at least two dozen people dead.

In 1997, amid a wave of bombings and assassinations, a protest by several hundred Uighurs in the city of Yining against religious restrictions turned into an anti-Chinese uprising that left at least 10 dead.

In both cases pro-independence groups said the death tolls were several times higher, and the government never conducted a public investigation into the events.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090706/ap_on_re_as/as_china_protest


23 posted on 07/06/2009 9:35:49 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: TornadoAlley3
had not had time to watch or read the news

Watch or read the news?

The President gets his news from television and newspapers?

The President of The United States?

Un-Freakin'-believable.

24 posted on 07/06/2009 9:36:54 AM PDT by Owl_Eagle (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Righting
The Chinese are dealing with a restless Caucasian (Turkic) minority. The rest of the world will avert its eyes, since Caucasians are fair game.

Uighur teens

25 posted on 07/06/2009 9:37:28 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Owl_Eagle

He’s stuck between a Barack and a hard place.

He’s a Muslim, and he’s an avowed Marxist, all in one.
Reminds me of Dan Aykroyd SNL skit - ‘It’s a floor cleaner, and a dessert topping, all in one’.


26 posted on 07/06/2009 9:43:25 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Liquid Oxygen + Oil

Sodium + water

Commies + Muzzies


27 posted on 07/06/2009 9:46:01 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Righting; TigerLikesRooster
At least in this instance, it appears to be ethnic violence, according to a report by TigerLikesRooster. There was an anti-Uighur riot in another Chinese city not long ago; this appears to be a reaction against that event.
28 posted on 07/06/2009 9:47:06 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: Righting
Why shouldn't try riot?

If they get arrested they might be sent to a Caribbean island to frolic in the waves.

29 posted on 07/06/2009 9:50:46 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: ETL

Also from the article:
“State television aired footage showing protesters attacking and kicking people on the ground. Other people, who appeared to be Han Chinese, sat dazed with blood pouring down their faces.”

Just having seen some of this footage on TV I’ll side with the commies on this one. This is just the usual muslims acting like muslims.


30 posted on 07/06/2009 9:51:27 AM PDT by LastNorwegian
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To: ArrogantBustard

Ah, throwing raw sodium in water. Brings back (loud) memories...


31 posted on 07/06/2009 9:51:47 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
He’s a Muslim, and he’s an avowed Marxist, all in one.

Obama is NOT a Muslim. He's a "Black Liberation Theology" commie like Rev Wright and Bill Ayers.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410

32 posted on 07/06/2009 9:55:00 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Righting

Why isn’t Obama pressuring Beijing to recognize an “Uighur state, living side-by-side with China in peace”?


33 posted on 07/06/2009 9:58:20 AM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: ETL

Muslims vs Chi-Coms....Whats a democrat to do? Support both sides?


34 posted on 07/06/2009 10:01:10 AM PDT by icwhatudo (For every clinic bombed or burned, 17 to 18 churches are burned down. MSM? MSM?)
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To: Zhang Fei

Are we sure they are Turkic in origin, they could also be “lost tribes origin” mixed with a little Chinese?


35 posted on 07/06/2009 10:01:13 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: ETL

I beg to differ. His supposed father was a devout Muslim. His step-father was a Muslim. He went to intensive classes on the Koran. He speaks Arabic with an excellent accent. He’s Muslim. Al-Zawahiri is also a Muslim Communist, they are not mutually exclusive. They will use each other, with each thinking they will slaughter the other, once the Jews, Christians and Buddhists are dead.

Two, two, death-cults, in one!


36 posted on 07/06/2009 10:05:44 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
I beg to differ. His supposed father was a devout Muslim. His step-father was a Muslim. He went to intensive classes on the Koran. He speaks Arabic with an excellent accent. He’s Muslim.

From AsiaTimesOnline
Feb 26, 2008

Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. ...

Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.

There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech. ..."

Article: Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html

37 posted on 07/06/2009 10:11:24 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Bitsy

Or, they could send them all to an island paradise.

LOL


38 posted on 07/06/2009 10:23:10 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: flash2368

they will unlike us.


39 posted on 07/06/2009 10:23:27 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: mdmathis6
Are we sure they are Turkic in origin, they could also be “lost tribes origin” mixed with a little Chinese?

They're Caucasian mixed in with some Mongoloid blood. "Chinese" isn't really a race - a lot of people we speak of as Chinese (especially from the northern and western regions of China) have a little Caucasian blood, and many are from tribes that gradually lost their cultures and languages after submitting to the rule of the Chinese empire.

40 posted on 07/06/2009 10:29:18 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Cheryllynn
“Religion of peace” at it again.”

From what I have read, this is the Chinese military killing Muslim civilians protesting for independence. The Chinese government said they were staging a riot. The participants on the ground said it was a protest. Whatever happened, there are a lot of Chinese bullets stuck in a lot of Chinese people.

41 posted on 07/06/2009 10:38:02 AM PDT by Gabrial (Obama Lied - The Republic Died)
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To: Righting

They can and should expel all the troublemakers at once.


42 posted on 07/06/2009 10:38:14 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Blackacre
Don't fall for Chinese government propaganda on this issue. Though there are Uighur terorist groups, the Uighurs have the same legitimate complaints against the Chinese government as do many other ethnic groups in China, such as the Tibetans.

It's a crappy choice to make but if I had to choose between the chicoms and muslims I'd pick the commies.

43 posted on 07/06/2009 10:42:30 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Bitsy

For once I’m siding with the moslem terrorists. The Chinese have not been our friends in the WOT. They have aided and abetted Iran’s nuclear program. Let them reap what they sow.


44 posted on 07/06/2009 10:43:04 AM PDT by henkster (Bumper Sticker: Please don't tell 0bama what comes after a Trillion!)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

>The Enemy of my Enemy is my... Enemy?<

You break with the U.S. foreign policy traditions of the last 60 years :o)


45 posted on 07/06/2009 10:46:01 AM PDT by Kampfschwimmer
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To: rogue yam

The are Islamic separatists. Just like we see across the world, they deserve nothing. They whine like Muslims everywhere else and if they want to live in an Islamic stated let them move to one.


46 posted on 07/06/2009 10:48:13 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Gabrial

They are just Islamic separatists. Should Muslims be given their own states where ever they ask for it?


47 posted on 07/06/2009 10:49:17 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Blackacre

Wanting to form an Islamic state in the middle of a non-Islamic country is not a legitimate complaint.


48 posted on 07/06/2009 10:50:56 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: icwhatudo

>>>Muslims vs Chi-Coms....Whats a democrat to do? Support both sides?<<

Well, not the muslims fer sure, that is how Bin Laden got powerful.

The Chinese seem to be more capitalist than socialists, as in their social services aren’t cradle to the grave like in cuba or western europe. It’s more like, you are on your own, there’s not even medical insurance I believe. China has a former communist apparatus, because its convinient for those already in power to stay in power, so they can change policy while still being in control.

Today it seems more like fascist middle (neither wholy left or right) state. Raw capitalism in order to make great progress in a short time. I wonder where they will be in 15-20 years. I seem to be lacking a certain word to describe todays China..can anyone think of any?

Countries like cuba & north korea, well they can certainly be called communist.


49 posted on 07/06/2009 10:51:08 AM PDT by Summerdrake
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To: Righting

(Muslims & violence)

Peanut butter & jelly

Strawberries & Whipped Cream....

Some things just go together naturally.


50 posted on 07/06/2009 10:51:30 AM PDT by Grunthor (Does a crowded elevator smell different to midgets?)
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