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Biden: If Israel Wants to Bomb Iran, We Can't Stop Them
Debkafiles ^ | July 5, 2009 17:51 PM (GMT+02:00)

Posted on 07/06/2009 10:31:54 AM PDT by lewisglad

In an interview with ABC's George Stephanoupolos taped Saturday, vice president Joseph Biden said in answer to a question: "Look, Israel can determine for itself — it's a sovereign nation — what's in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else." Whether we agree or not? The interviewer asked. "Whether we agree or not," said the vice president.

This was the first time a senior Obama administration official left Israeli the military option against Iran's nuclear sites. DEBKAfile's Washington sources note that the vice president has the reputation for fast draws which are sometimes later modified by "clarifications." If this time Biden's statement was coordinated with the president, it would mean that the administration has withdrawn its veto against Israel's resort to military action to curtail Iran's drive for a bomb before diplomacy has been fully tested.

He went on to say: "They're entitled to do that. Any sovereign nation is entitled to do that. But there is no pressure from any nation that's going to alter our behavior as to how to proceed. What we believe is in the national interest of the United States, which we, coincidentally, believe is also in the interest of Israel and the whole world.

"And so there are separate issues. If the Netanyahu government decides to take a course of action different than the one being pursued now, that is their sovereign right to do that. That is not our choice. "

Stephanopoulos persisted: But just to be clear here, if the Israelis decide Iran is an existential threat, they have to take out the nuclear program, militarily the United States will not stand in the way?

Biden: "Look, we cannot dictate to another sovereign nation what they can and cannot do.

Interviewer: You say we can't dictate, but we can, if we choose to, deny over-flight rights here in Iraq. We can stand in the way of a military strike.

Biden: "I'm not going to speculate, George, on those issues, other than to say Israel has a right to determine what's in its interests, and we have a right and we will determine what's in our interests."

Intelligence sources say: The last three days from Friday, June 3, have seen a spate of reports all pointing in one direction: Israel's air and sea capabilities for dealing with Iran and its military nuclear program. US vice president Biden's statement, unless it is withdrawn, looks like the Obama administration's seal on a possible Israeli attack for pre-empting a nuclear-armed Iran. "Israel can determine for itself whether or not to bomb Iran's nuclear program," he said.

Until now, administration officials referred a potential Israeli bombardment of Iran as a disaster whose consequences were impossible to predict.

Now the ball is squarely in Binyamin Netanyahu's court, whether because Washington hopes Israel will pull the Iranian chestnut out of the fire, or to call Israel's bluff. Netanyahu and defense minister Ehud Barak are now free of America restraints for backing up their statements about the need to pre-empt a nuclear-armed Iran before the Islamic Republic poses an existential threat to Israel.

Asked if Americans would again put their lives on the line again if violence flares back up in Iraq, Biden flatly said "no."

The ABC correspondent notes that in the interview Biden used the phrases "sovereign nation" six times in the interview, once in reference to Iraq, once to the US and three times in referring to Israel.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; bhomiddleeast; iraniannukes; vpbiden

1 posted on 07/06/2009 10:31:54 AM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
If Israel Wants to Bomb Iran, We Can't Stop Them..

I like the way he takes charge while Zero is gone...Israel you have the VP’s permission to attack Iran..LMBO!!

2 posted on 07/06/2009 10:38:07 AM PDT by PLD
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To: lewisglad

Puts him ahead of the fearless leader. Should we take this as his Presidential Ambitions getting fired up? Kind of like LBJ? There’s another parallel that the media may want to pursue.


3 posted on 07/06/2009 10:38:42 AM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: lewisglad

He has ZERO diplomacy nor brains.


4 posted on 07/06/2009 10:40:36 AM PDT by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: PLD

Joe Blowhard is in charge now! (while Barry Soetoro is in Russia)


5 posted on 07/06/2009 10:41:15 AM PDT by lewisglad
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To: PLD

Biden’s logical corollary is that if Iran wants to bomb Israel, this administration will not stop that either.

I think Bibi’s course of action is clear.


6 posted on 07/06/2009 10:43:11 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: lewisglad
But if some family wants to add a playroom to their house in Efrat, that's a whole different matter.

ML/NJ

7 posted on 07/06/2009 10:45:09 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: lewisglad

Biden drunk; again?


8 posted on 07/06/2009 10:46:54 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: lewisglad
As much of a buffoon Biden is, it doesn't much matter what Osama bin Obama or him say to this situation. Israel has every right to protect herself from total destruction no matter what dictator is trying to kill them, Obama or Iran.
9 posted on 07/06/2009 10:48:59 AM PDT by antiunion person (PALIN/JINDAL 2012)
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To: lewisglad

Joe Biden Speaks Truth, Taken to Woodshed...


10 posted on 07/06/2009 10:49:00 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: lewisglad
"Look, Israel can determine for itself — it's a sovereign nation — what's in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else."

Always be careful when the Left uses the phrase "it's a sovereign nation".

They claimed that we had no right to go to war against Iraq because "it's a sovereign nation".

And we all know that global opinion and international law is of utmost concern to the Left when it comes to determining US policies and law.

11 posted on 07/06/2009 10:52:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: battlecry
...in the interview Biden used the phrases "sovereign nation" six times in the interview, once .. Iraq, once to the.. US and three .. Israel.

if Iran wants to bomb Israel, this administration will not stop that either.

So, that's five "sovereign"'s, what was the sixth? Iran?

The US cannot be definition be neutral. Its actions to date are aiding Iran, including this bidenblather.

12 posted on 07/06/2009 10:55:10 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: lewisglad
Biden: "I'm not going to speculate, George, on those issues, other than to say Israel has a right to determine what's in its interests, and we have a right and we will determine what's in our interests."

It appears to me that Israel is now on its own. May the Lord bless you and keep you Israel.

13 posted on 07/06/2009 10:55:21 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: lewisglad
Actually they make him think he is in charge..Soro’s is still in charge with or without Barry being there..
14 posted on 07/06/2009 10:55:33 AM PDT by PLD
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To: battlecry
How true,they would love for that to happen..
I just hope Bibi takes advantage of the Saudis invitation to use their air space..Just bomb the place where idiot lives and also the missile sites..
15 posted on 07/06/2009 10:58:35 AM PDT by PLD
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To: PLD

It’s pretty sad how this administration conducts foreign policy.


16 posted on 07/06/2009 11:06:34 AM PDT by yorkie01
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To: Steamburg
Puts him ahead of the fearless leader. Should we take this as his Presidential Ambitions getting fired up? Kind of like LBJ? There’s another parallel that the media may want to pursue.

Well, maybe he will do what LBJ was accused of, if you take my meaning. Just a thought, I am not advocating anything of the sort.

17 posted on 07/06/2009 11:11:59 AM PDT by calex59
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To: lewisglad

Normally, the seemingly casual statements by high officials are well-thought out and crafted to send signals to foreign observers, who know to pay close attention to these things.

But in Biden’s case, who knows whether this statement is something the Obama administration wants to articulate to Iran, or whether it is simply a random thought that popped into Biden’s head via his mouth.

I’d like to see the U.S. give “permission” to Israel to let loose on Iran, but I’d be suprised if the anti-Semitic Obama did so, or sent Biden out to do so.

The Iranian regime would be wise to turn off the television when Biden is on.


18 posted on 07/06/2009 11:55:24 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: lewisglad
This is getting interesting. First Egypt and then Saudi Arabia said they would not stop Israel from crossing their territory if they decide to bomb Iran. Now the VP has said about the same thing. I'm just fine with all of this. Do your thing, Israel.
19 posted on 07/06/2009 12:18:24 PM PDT by fish hawk (Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it. Psalm 127:1)
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To: lewisglad

20 posted on 07/06/2009 12:20:13 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (It is impossible to convince someone of facts or truth if they don't want to believe it.)
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21 posted on 07/06/2009 1:06:43 PM PDT by SJackson (the number-one job facing the middle class...a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S. Jobs)
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To: lewisglad
What we believe is in the national interest of the United States, which we, coincidentally, believe is also in the interest of Israel and the whole world.

Sounds like a full-bore green-light go-ahead to me!

22 posted on 07/06/2009 1:08:41 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: lewisglad

I can only imagine the next meeting between Joe and Hussein.


23 posted on 07/06/2009 1:10:37 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lewisglad

DEBKA....

Not a reliable source.


24 posted on 07/06/2009 2:19:17 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: lewisglad

Israel’s a sovereign nation? It is? Is that really Joe Biden saying that? Wow. What a concession. Israel is a sovereign nation. Now I feel tingly all over.


25 posted on 07/06/2009 3:02:06 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: ml/nj

In Efrat? A play room? Where? How dare they?


26 posted on 07/06/2009 3:05:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html. Donate to members.tripod.com/tva_israel/HOME.HTM)
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To: lewisglad
"Look, Israel can determine for itself — it's a sovereign nation — what's in their interest and what they decide to do relative to Iran and anyone else."

Kind of gives a whole new dimension to the term Politically "Stupid" don't you think?

27 posted on 07/06/2009 3:10:47 PM PDT by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
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To: lewisglad
Joe Blowhard is in charge now! (while Barry Soetoro is in Russia)

The Frick and Frack of American politics.

28 posted on 07/06/2009 3:11:49 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: lewisglad

Add this under the “No freaking Crap!” category.


29 posted on 07/06/2009 3:38:37 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: a fool in paradise

I think they are trying to spark a war!!! They seem to want total chaos in the world. To bring forth their dastardly plans.


30 posted on 07/06/2009 4:58:41 PM PDT by rlferny
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To: lewisglad

At least he’s being consistent with the ethical relativity...


31 posted on 07/06/2009 7:19:22 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: lewisglad
Biden is likely a bit “touched” as they say. But, unlike his boss, he really does love the concept of a free and powerful America. Watch Biden closely. If he keeps speaking out, it suggests he's positioning himself. Also keep any eye on Hillery. She's been very quiet of late. If Obama’s birth certificate doesn't turn out well, Biden is POTUS and Hillery is VP. Just like Nixon selected Ford and Ford selected Rockefeller. Pelosi is not in the mix.
32 posted on 07/06/2009 11:30:28 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: yorkie01
This administration is full filling their goal and that is to make Americans look like a bunch of idiots..When most of them are at least the ones voting for this trash in Washington..we will soon be looked upon as peasant's as soon as the Obama people get finished with this country..Look at Uncle crazy Joe now that is a laugh a minute..And the Obama’s that are making this one big holiday traveling around the world with out money
33 posted on 07/07/2009 6:39:38 AM PDT by PLD
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