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Why Obama May Lose in 2012
American Spectator ^ | July 07, 2009 | Hunter Baker

Posted on 07/06/2009 2:59:23 PM PDT by RobinMasters

A very wise friend suggested to me that Obama's second term is an inevitability. I have to take issue with him because it seems all too clear to me that the president has abandoned the ironclad strategy for victory. What he should have done was to dedicate himself to fixing the banking/financial system, to restore its foundations, to bring about better rules, and to restore public confidence in the lifeblood of the system. Had he done that, eight years would have been a foregone conclusion.

Instead, he has made the financial system an interesting sideline to go along with his attempts to bring about the eschaton through salvific, wishing-makes-it-so public policy. His current path stands a decent chance of returning the nation to stagflation. And no politician can wear that millstone and make it look good.

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1 posted on 07/06/2009 2:59:23 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Who says he’ll make it that far? Once he loses the house or senate all holds are off.


2 posted on 07/06/2009 3:00:44 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: RobinMasters
to bring about the eschaton through salvific, wishing-makes-it-so public policy.

Eruditious pontification abounds!

3 posted on 07/06/2009 3:01:44 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: RobinMasters

Please Lord, let all these Obamanuts think it’s in the bag for the second term. It so isn’t. Just let them think so, though, because they will really muck things up for themselves just thinking it is.


4 posted on 07/06/2009 3:02:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: RobinMasters

What’s to stop him from doing 8 years? Will there still be millions of stupid people in the U.S. in 2012?


5 posted on 07/06/2009 3:02:48 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Take that WFB!


6 posted on 07/06/2009 3:03:25 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: RobinMasters

Dude is way over thinking this. It’s bec he is a scum sucking socialist loser.


7 posted on 07/06/2009 3:03:43 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: RobinMasters

If leftists succeed in ending Presidential term limits, then Obama may be President for life. Leftists really don’t care about the proper interpretation of the U.S. Constitution, and they might decide to even end having any more future elections in the U.S.!


8 posted on 07/06/2009 3:06:01 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Eruditious pontification abounds!
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Delectable polysyllabic bandage.


9 posted on 07/06/2009 3:06:10 PM PDT by Woebama (Paying for my neighbor's mortgage and Wall Street's bonuses sure is hard.)
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To: RobinMasters

Less electoral votes than the other guy. That would be my guess.


10 posted on 07/06/2009 3:06:18 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: RobinMasters

I firmly believe he is out to wreck us so badly that there won’t be much of us left by 2012. He’s thinking “The 2012 election be damned, I have my agenda”.


11 posted on 07/06/2009 3:06:48 PM PDT by unkus
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To: RobinMasters
And no politician can wear that millstone and make it look good.

A politician CAN wear that millstone & look good if he's got the Press protecting him.

12 posted on 07/06/2009 3:06:54 PM PDT by kromike
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To: Izzy Dunne
Eruditious pontification abounds

And this writer's thesaurus must be as worn as a five generation family bible.

13 posted on 07/06/2009 3:07:02 PM PDT by 50mm (I'm not arrogant! I am better than you!)
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To: RobinMasters

All together now: Don’t immanentize the eschaton!


14 posted on 07/06/2009 3:07:18 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: RobinMasters
Hopefully he will be deported or in prison before 2012.
15 posted on 07/06/2009 3:08:19 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: All

We can’t wait until 2012! We need his Marxist/Muslim a$$ kicked out NOW- before he finishes destroying America!


16 posted on 07/06/2009 3:08:42 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Graybeard58

It will increase by November ‘12, plus leftists will probably succeed in adding illegal immigrants and almost all criminals to their total leftist voter rolls, that’s if leftists even have any more future elections in the U.S. It’s also important to note that ACORN is doing the next census count!


17 posted on 07/06/2009 3:10:36 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: unkus
I firmly believe he is out to wreck us so badly that there won’t be much of us left by 2012. He’s thinking “The 2012 election be damned, I have my agenda”.

Plus, he can take his chances with reelection in 2012 with ACORN, Soro's money and the MSM running interference for him. So even if the economy is in the toilet, he has a shot at winning in 2012.
18 posted on 07/06/2009 3:11:13 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34 (Liberals are hypocrites and phonies. Associate with them at your own risk.)
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To: Cheetahcat

“Hopefully he will be deported or in prison before 2012”.

...maybe we’ll luck out and the cigs will take care of things!


19 posted on 07/06/2009 3:11:17 PM PDT by albie
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To: Graybeard58

And we must never underestimate the ability of the Republicans to snatch defeat from jaws of victory . . .


20 posted on 07/06/2009 3:11:26 PM PDT by Buchal ("Two wings of the same bird of prey . . .")
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To: Lee'sGhost

So if criticizing Obama’s policies and predicting his defeat now makes one a liberal, I am forced to conclude that there really is just no winning with some FReepers anymore.


21 posted on 07/06/2009 3:11:30 PM PDT by Dan Middleton ( Say no to political personality cults, on the left or the right.)
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To: RobinMasters

The gentleman is deluded.

The path to victory is through the 50% of the population who pay little or no taxes and their enablers in academe and among other groups. Make ‘em dependent on you and promise ‘em more every election.

You don’t actually have to deliver - the MSM will cover that up for you.

With a little help from the 2010 census and ACORN or COI or whatever they are now, the next election should be slam dunk (and the one after that...).


22 posted on 07/06/2009 3:11:31 PM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: RobinMasters

I think he’ll lose because the country will be broke and a fifth of the people unemployed.


23 posted on 07/06/2009 3:11:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (Central park didn't hit 85 degrees in June this year - last time was 1916. Al Gore is nuts.)
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To: RobinMasters

Barring a shooting war with N. Korea or Iran, it’ll come down to the economy. If we’re in recovery, he’ll get the credit and most likely be re-elected. If we’re still in a recession, he can kiss his job goodbye.

Getting rid of a sitting President in good economic times is very tough.


24 posted on 07/06/2009 3:13:32 PM PDT by Blackacre
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To: RobinMasters

I may be wrong but,I don’t think o will make it through his 4 year term.


25 posted on 07/06/2009 3:14:41 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: zert_28

I’m serious. He wants to hurt the US as badly as he can and as quick as he can. Once the USA is out of the way, NWO is in!


26 posted on 07/06/2009 3:15:34 PM PDT by unkus
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To: taxtruth

Hitlery might be president before 2012.


27 posted on 07/06/2009 3:16:54 PM PDT by unkus
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To: zert_28

Soros is getting pretty old.


28 posted on 07/06/2009 3:18:53 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: GOPJ
I think he’ll lose because the country will be broke and a fifth of the people unemployed.

Unfortunately, that same 20% will vote for him anyway (ACORN will pad this number with dead people & pets), because all they know is CNN, Oprah, and People Magazine.

29 posted on 07/06/2009 3:19:16 PM PDT by kromike
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To: albie
“...maybe we’ll luck out and the cigs will take care of things!”

You are right I am sure he is burning one after another in his confused state of mind.

30 posted on 07/06/2009 3:19:45 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: RobinMasters

“MAY” what is this “may” stuff....Hope u change title to WILL!


31 posted on 07/06/2009 3:20:07 PM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: dandiegirl

Is that pustule still oozing? I thought he died. How does something so bitter remain alive?


32 posted on 07/06/2009 3:20:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Nachum; All
Never heard of Hunter Baker. I'm pretty sure I would not know his smart friend.

This seems to me more garbage from the chattering classes.
33 posted on 07/06/2009 3:21:28 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: RobinMasters

Now that over 50% of the sheep are sucking from the government teat, I’m not sure there will be another GOP President in my lifetime. 2012 is a done deal already.

Our only hope is that the over-reaches of the leftists will self-destruct, maybe in time for 2016. If there’s anything left to save by then...


34 posted on 07/06/2009 3:22:16 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: GOPJ
I think he’ll lose because the country will be broke and a fifth of the people unemployed.

That certainly proved to be FDR's Achilles Heel.

35 posted on 07/06/2009 3:24:21 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: GOPJ
I think he’ll lose because the country will be broke and a fifth of the people unemployed.

Exactly my thought. He was hired because he claimed he would do a better job than the Republicans, not turn a recession into the second Great Depression.

Reasons -- 1.) unemployment and 2.) inflation.

I don't see any evidence of economic "green shoots" anywhere, except for the weeds in my garden. $789 *billion* in economic stimulus spending that didn't stimulate much of anything, but was a laundry list of unfunded Democrat wishes since 1994.

36 posted on 07/06/2009 3:25:28 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: DuncanWaring
That certainly proved to be FDR's Achilles Heel.

FDR didn't have the advantage of a different skin color, no opposition party, and the faithful puppy-love of an adoring Media.

37 posted on 07/06/2009 3:27:46 PM PDT by kromike
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To: Izzy Dunne
“Eruditious pontification abounds!”

I am so illiterate, and you are so bombastic, you will have to elucidate before I can comprehend.

38 posted on 07/06/2009 3:28:57 PM PDT by beefree
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To: Blackacre

Good economic times seem far-fetched with a Democrat congress and a socialist Kenyan running things, but I suppose the Republicans could retake the Congress, get things back on track, and watch as the Kenyan takes the credit.


39 posted on 07/06/2009 3:30:55 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Graybeard58

It’s not stupid people in America; it’s voter fraud. Can’t wait for a few including Congress critters to sign on to the Bernie Madoff plan of spending 150 years in jail.


40 posted on 07/06/2009 3:31:00 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: RobinMasters

Yeah, Obama will lose in a landslide if he’s not disqualified from office first.


41 posted on 07/06/2009 3:40:22 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: RobinMasters
OBAMA: "Read my lips, everybody making under $250k will actually pay LESS in taxes."
42 posted on 07/06/2009 3:43:03 PM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: RobinMasters

If he continues on his path to Marxist hell, millions of unemployed people will be screaming for his head by 2010.


43 posted on 07/06/2009 3:47:41 PM PDT by Do the math (Doug)
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To: RobinMasters

Marshall Law will be declared around the 2012 election to keep Obama in office, either due to a real or manufactured threat to the homeland. Remember, the World ends that December 21, 2012. ... j/k


44 posted on 07/06/2009 3:49:27 PM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: Oratam
Don’t immanentize the eschaton!

L'ego of my eggo!

45 posted on 07/06/2009 3:51:07 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd: ON)
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To: Rastus
Good economic times seem far-fetched with a Democrat congress and a socialist Kenyan running things, but I suppose the Republicans could retake the Congress, get things back on track, and watch as the Kenyan takes the credit.

Japan has been in recession/depression for 19 years now, under much the same economic policies as Obama is instituting. It's unlikely that a Republican Congress, all on it's own, can make the kinds of changes than need to be made. In fact, it's unlikely that a Republican President and Republican Congress can make the changes, unless there is someone out there with Reagan-like charisma. Which I don't see. Expect a game of political "musical chairs" every 2-4 year for the next 20 years. Nobody has the fortitude to actually fix the problems. Things will not get back "on track" any time soon.

46 posted on 07/06/2009 3:53:43 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Sooth2222
$789 *billion* in economic stimulus spending that didn't stimulate ... a laundry list of unfunded Democrat wishes since 1994.

You're right.

47 posted on 07/06/2009 4:10:48 PM PDT by GOPJ (Central park didn't hit 85 degrees in June this year - last time was 1916. Al Gore is nuts.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Please Lord, let all these Obamanuts think it’s in the bag for the second term. It so isn’t.

Once Obama names an election czar, his reelection is all but a certainty.

48 posted on 07/06/2009 4:27:55 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: CharacterCounts

So what are you saying, he gets to appoint the head of ACORN? ;)


49 posted on 07/06/2009 5:18:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: RobinMasters
His current path stands a decent chance of returning the nation to stagflation. And no politician can wear that millstone and make it look good.

Thus, we can rebrand the democrat party as the Stagflation Party.

My apologies to those who enjoy stag parties.

50 posted on 07/06/2009 5:26:08 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Dear Leader? No, Queer Leader.)
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