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Hospital won't back Obama birth claim
WND ^ | July 06, 2009 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 07/06/2009 6:43:08 PM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: Colonel Ray
I predict that after the Dems pass healthcare and immigratiion reform, Obama will resign because of the birth certificate problem and be remembered as a hero..(sic)

I don't' think so, if he did that, the laws he signed would be challenged in courts everywhere until Hell wouldn't have it. Every law he signed and every executive action he has taken or will take before he resigned would null and void. The President must sign laws and if he was shown not to be eligible, then he never was President. Thus the laws were never signed by the President and are not laws at all.

They'd all have to be passed again and signed by the new President, which might or might not be Joe Biden, since he'd have gotten elected via the same fraud.

The resulting mess would make Honduras' current troubles look like a dispute on a kindergarten playground.

101 posted on 07/06/2009 8:14:49 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SeaHawkFan
"The Hospital does not need his approval to say he wasn’t born there. If there is no record, there is no privacy to protect."

Bump.

102 posted on 07/06/2009 8:16:21 PM PDT by Miss Behave (OMG, my tagline is stalking me.)
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To: Don Corleone

I don’t know, but he and his chicago mafia commies will be gone. That is the best start I can imagine.


103 posted on 07/06/2009 8:18:18 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Jackson57

*sorry*


104 posted on 07/06/2009 8:18:43 PM PDT by Citizen Soldier (Socialism is the financial arm of Communism)
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To: RobinMasters

What is so disturbing about the whole affair is that Freepers are more concerned about and interested in Obama’s birth records than members of Congress are. It only shows what gutless individuals we have elected as our representatives.

It is the legislative body of our government who should DEMAND a resolution of his identity.


105 posted on 07/06/2009 8:18:59 PM PDT by 353FMG (Death is Life without Freedom.)
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To: Citizen Soldier

I agree with your point, however.


106 posted on 07/06/2009 8:19:22 PM PDT by Jackson57
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To: Spktyr

Yes but the state of HI supposedly can release it to a relative.


107 posted on 07/06/2009 8:21:39 PM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: El Gato; DMZFrank; LucyT; Beckwith; BP2; mojitojoe; Polarik; Chief Engineer
My current theory is that he was born in Canada, to an unwed mother well before August 1961 (perhaps in the Spring even). His actual black father is not on his registry, his grandmother Dunham got him registered as a Hawaiian resident and the family had a new friend agree to marry his mother to give him a legitimacy.

It is astonishing how many Americans are ready to toss the Constitution in the toilet for an affirmative action hire just because 'he won so a majority wants him to be president'. Public education has accomplished its purpose in preparing the nation for communist usurpation and now we have it and don't even recognize it!

108 posted on 07/06/2009 8:26:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: RobinMasters
Headline?

Hawaii braces for flood of "delayed birth filings"
Hundreds Expected To Name Hawaii As Birth Place
"Obama precedent. I need COLB, make president," said one prospective registrant through an interpreter. [End]

I wasn't born in a hospital. My long-form certificate is stamped Delayed but it's signed by a doctor and was properly registered before I was one year old (Kentucky).

In Hawaii

"If a child born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult including the subject person) if the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year. . . ." [End]

Who's going to know? I'm almost 70 and I was born in Hawaii, I swear. :)

109 posted on 07/06/2009 8:26:56 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Citizen Soldier
HOW CAN A BIRTH CERTIFICATE BE LEAKED FROM THAT HAWAII HOSPITAL IF HE HAS NOT BORN THERE TO BEGIN WITH?

Birth certificates, official ones, are kept by the States, not by hospitals. The state claims to have a copy of his birth certificate, but they won't/can't release it's contents without his permission or a court order. The BC would show which hospital, or at least which country, he was born in. (It was possible to file for a Hawaian BC if the parents were Hawaian residents, even if the baby was not born in Hawaii, but that would be reflected on the long form BC. It is, or was, also possible to "fake" a birth in Hawaii, or most any state, by claiming an unattended home birth, up to several months after the claimed birth date. The child need not even be resident in that state, he could still be wherever the birth actually occurred, as the form doesn't require foot prints or anything other than a couple of signatures. One of a parent (BHO Sr, was probably in Hawaii, and of course the mail was functioning) one of a witness to the birth. That's it.

It's pretty certain that the address given for BHO's parents was bogus, his father had an appartment in a different part of town closer to the University. No one has been able to come up with any phone book or directory that shows BHO Sr and/or Stanley Ann living at the address listed in the birth announcemnt printed in the local papers An announcement that doesn't even say what hospital the birth occured in, nor did any of the others printed that same day. My hometown (now nearly 200K people, then about 125K) paper still prints birth announcements, with the name of the hospital. They even print them for cases of unmarried parents, and some where only the mother's name is given. However I think they now have to get the parents permission to print them, which the hospital records folks do.

110 posted on 07/06/2009 8:28:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

I wonder if the Punahou School would have a copy of his long form BC in their files.

Usually schools request a BC when a student is being enrolled.


111 posted on 07/06/2009 8:30:24 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: thecodont
Would it damage BO that much now for him to stand up before all and say, "I'm a bastard"? I think there is more to it than that.

While I doubt he'd use the "B word", it wouldn't hurt him a bit. It would probably help him, since so many in "the community" he pretends to be from (He's not of course, he was raised by middle class Caucasian grandparents) are illegitimate, even among the voting age population and even more so amongst the population the Obama Youth Corps will be drawn from. And it would generate a certain sort of sympathy among other communities. Heck if he'd been upfront about it, I'd have been a little sympathetic. Not very, but a little.

But there is evidence that his parents were married, even if it was a sham marriage. Why not? His father gained prestige by having a second wife, and his mother, or maybe his grandmother, needed a name for the birth certificate. A name of someone who had the requistic racial characteristics and wouldn't be around for too long. (Doesn't even matter if BHO Sr. was not the sperm donor, the child of a married woman is legally presumned to be that of her husband, absent very conclusive evidence to the contrary).

Still the evidence they were married is indirect, coming from their divorce papers, no marriage license having been found, so it's possible they actually were not married. But again, I doubt it, because that would make him a citizen at birth, regardless of where it occurred. Which would at least strengthen the case for him being a natural born citizen, in that one cannot be the later without being the former.

112 posted on 07/06/2009 8:38:33 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: japaneseghost

Can’t believe there isn’t some clever professional thief who could get the goods out of the hospital. After all, it’s worth a lot of money, more that the average cat-burglar can make in one heist. Anybody out there listening????


113 posted on 07/06/2009 8:41:53 PM PDT by pankot
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To: 2111USMC

Wonder how big the check was that went with that letter?


114 posted on 07/06/2009 8:43:54 PM PDT by pankot
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To: 353FMG
It is the legislative body of our government who should DEMAND a resolution of his identity

I would think the republicans would be all over this as the great protectors of The Republic.

I have been holding my breath for almost a year, but the wimp pubs have chosen not to raise any questions.

It is The Office of President of the United States we are talking about!

115 posted on 07/06/2009 8:44:21 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: bonehead4freedom
Some one enlighten me,if his mother was a natural born American citizen then if he was born in Hawaii or Kenya it doesn't matter as a child of a citizen he's American right? Example American lady married to a German citizen child born in Great Britain child still considered American citizen correct? (plus what ever status conferred by German & British law.)

No, the law, now as then, requires that the US parent of a child born outside the US, where the other parent is not a US citizen, have been a resident for some period after their 14th birthday. It was 5 years then, since reduced to 2 years. His mother had not been alive 5 years after her 14th birthday when he was allegedly born. Thus she could not transfer US Citizenship at birth to him, if he was not born in the US. If however she hadn't been married to the father, then she could. The residency requirement only applies to a child born outside the US and with married parents, one of whom is not a US citizen. Even if the parents are not married and the father is the US Citizen, then by acknowleging his parentage, the child is a US Citizen at birth. But Citizen at birth, especially one born outside the US, is not the same as "Natural Born Citizen" (even the 14th amendment says that person "born or naturalized in the United States" are citizens. A person born outside the US, must thus be considered "naturalized at birth", because Congress wrote a law to give them that status, and Congress only has the power to define a uniform rule of Naturalization. Thus such a person, even though a citizen at birth, is likely not eligible to the office of President.

116 posted on 07/06/2009 8:57:56 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: RobinMasters

Funny that I can ask to see if a patient is in a hospital and his room number from a hospital directory service over the phone and get it, but this hospital will not confirm or deny if Obama was born there 48 years ago.


117 posted on 07/06/2009 8:58:46 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Cboldt
Hospitals announce births without running afoul of HIPPA or any other protected privacy interest.

Last time I gave birth they required a signed authorization by me to include my child's birth announcement in the newspaper.

118 posted on 07/06/2009 9:01:04 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: RobinMasters

obumpa


119 posted on 07/06/2009 9:05:34 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: MHGinTN
My current theory is that he was born in Canada, to an unwed mother well before August 1961 (perhaps in the Spring even).

In that case he would have been a citizen at birth, and no need for all this run around with the BC. If that were revealed, it would change nothing. He's have been a citizen at birth, but rather than one with a foreign citizen father, he'd be a bastard citizen at birth. Subtly different of course, since he would not have the problem of a foreign citizen father, but would have the problem of not being born on US territory.

120 posted on 07/06/2009 9:05:45 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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