Skip to comments.Police chief denounces 'cowardly' iPhone users monitoring speed traps [DC angry about lost $]
Posted on 07/07/2009 10:00:19 AM PDT by RatherBiased.com
Area drivers looking to outwit police speed traps and traffic cameras are using an iPhone application and other global positioning system devices that pinpoint the location of the cameras.
That has irked D.C. police chief Cathy Lanier, who promised her officers would pick up their game to counteract the devices, which can also help drivers dodge sobriety checkpoints.
"I think that's the whole point of this program," she told The Examiner. "It's designed to circumvent law enforcement -- law enforcement that is designed specifically to save lives."
The new technology streams to i-Phones and global positioning system devices, sounding off an alarm as drivers approach speed or red-light cameras.
Lanier said the technology is a "cowardly tactic" and "people who overly rely on those and break the law anyway are going to get caught" in one way or another.
The greater D.C. area has 290 red-light and speed cameras -- comprising nearly 10 percent of all traffic cameras in the U.S., according to estimates by a camera-tracking database called the POI Factory.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
“law enforcement that is designed specifically to save lives.” “
Not when it comes to speed enforcement. At least in my town, it’s a revenue stream. Period.
> Lanier said the technology is a “cowardly tactic”
...whereas speed cameras and random breathalyzer checkpoints are courageous police work, ay.
I wonder if the police chief had an option that saved lives but cost her money, would she choose it? Maybe a little device that warned drivers when they’re approaching an intersection that was dangerous so that they slowed down? Oh wait....
I thought you would find this interesting.....
How am I going to pay for my retirement? I will need to work to 65 instead of retiring at 50.
Excellent! I might have to get an iPhone after all... ;-)
This is what she really meant.
Revenue agents ...not about safety
I'm going to need some explanation on this one. Cowardly HOW?
It strikes me as being the opposite of cowardice to work against a totalitarian government and its police force.
Hmm... maybe an iPhone won’t be so bad.
What are more apps like this to make everyday life easier, Sword?
Just for the serfs I'm sure. CongressCreatures, High-level Obama Admin Mandarins, and SCOTUS types need not worry.
Just wait until someone figures out how to connect an iPhone to a radar detector. Call it Bear Tweets or some such.
Now there’s a million dollar idea right there...
I’m really sorry that I’m not in the DC area to spraypaint the lenses of the speed cameras. It is simply a revenue raiser, it has NOTHING to do with safety.
Those who are willing to give up their liberties in exchange for the promise of security will not get and will not deserve either.
Here, BTW, is what people in the UK (land of the sheeple) do to their speed cameras (which they call “gatsos”): http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm
Of course, I’d never suggest that Americans, armed with 300 million guns, and with access to a myriad of other explosive or burning chemicals, do anything like the English. Nope, I’d never suggest it - but I’d be happy.
I guess she would prefer the braver approach of shooting out the cameras...
You got that right. My spouse and I call policemen “revenue enhancers”. That is their main function now. But they won’t be getting any more from us. Nope, we creep along like grannies now.
Stop your bitching Lanier, it’s all part of the game.
So the ap stops people from going through a red light? In a normal world that would be a good thing. This is the stupidest man I have ever read about.
“Area drivers looking to outwit police speed traps and traffic cameras are using an iPhone application and other global positioning system devices that pinpoint the location of the cameras.”
I am not an Apple fan but that is freaking awesome.
Typical government bureaucrat response. Things are best when the sheeple passively obey ‘The Authorities’. Unfortunately, your populace will engage in resistance so all I can say lady, is ‘STICK IT’, if you want sheeple go to Zimbabwe (I’d have said Iran a month ago!)
I love the safety argument, because it’s always bogus.
Case in point: a few years ago, the city of Albuquerque announced it was stepping up patrols of the interstates (25 & 40) in town to “increase safety.”
They were using unmarked cars.
> Here, BTW, is what people in the UK (land of the sheeple) do to their speed cameras (which they call gatsos): http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm
Judging from the photos, “Gatso” is the brand name of the speed camera, true?
tehy are lucky I am not in charge!
I say mount lasers on iPhones that can automatically ZAP speed cameras!!!
So citizens are using technology designed for private use to beat technology designed to catch them in speed or red light running. DUH! People have been flashing headlights for years. I remember using a CB radio to expose speed traps too.
I have a note for Chief Lanier: If you want to stop people from running red lights or speeding, park a PD cruiser near that dangerous location - with its bubble gum machine/lights on. I will guarantee you that the motorists will OBEY said traffic control devices.
Ignorant SOB. That GPS feature has been on radar detectors for years.
Apparently, “Gatso” is one brand name: http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/gatso.htm
But like copiers where all of them are referred to as a Xerox, I think that all of them are referred to as a Gatso.
I find it truly humorous that the cost of the machines is 20,000-40,000 British pounds. Gee, the cost of a few used tires and a couple liters of gasoline (excuse me, PETROL) is considerably less.
Interestingly enough people still have to slow down don’t they.
In Dallas they had Cameras but yanked them out when revenue fell.
Sooooooooo....the law-enforcement is actually working, just not in the time frame you want. Have I got that correct, Chief?
well...it sure beats the snot out of chasing down career drug dealers...who like to shoot back....
Besides...its “revenue enhancing” police work...as opposed to police work that burns shoe leather, rubber and bullets...
“It’s designed to circumvent law enforcement”
as opposed to lawyers and politicians?
If you already own a GPS unit for your car, there are online sources for the speedtrap/redlight camera locations that work with most units. One I've used is at trapster.com; it allows you to select the areas you travel in. As people upload new info, you get update alert e-mails.
Works like a charm - and the data stays fairly current. You get a little chime noise when approaching a reported site, along with a small text box describing the possible threat. I just leave the GPS on in "map" mode. The first week I used it, I heard the chime and sure enough, there was a motorcycle cop hiding right where it indicated.
As the law enforcement agencies realize they're being out-teched, they'll resort to moving their ambush locations more often.
Freedom lives. But as always, under attack.
Waaaaaahhhhhh! Go shut down some crack-houses and make the steets safe to walk at night (or during the day!) and do some REAL policing!
As a patrol officer in a medium-sized community I myself despise “red-light & speed cameras”. We do not have them nor do I foresee us ever getting them. We do red-light & speed enforcement the old fashioned way......in our squad cars.
BA WA WA!!!
Translation, drivers are slowing down and we aren't getting any money.
If it is designed to get drivers to slow down "to save lives" then it is working, no?
There, fixed it for him.
How long before the government smartens up and saturates those colaborative systems with fake data?
You’d think they’d have their hands full juat monitoring Marior Barry (who was just arrested for stalking a woman).
App for iPhone and other Smartphones: http://www.trapster.com/
Gotta be a Democrat.
Hmm I would ask chief kathy, if she believes technology is cowardly, why does she use it to cite and arrest others?
I suppose that could happen but apps like the one I linked to in the previous post apparently have the ability to correct for false information via reports others can submit.
I suppose maybe the “law enforcement” could submit false “false reports” too, but I don’t think they could give such false information to such a degree that it would have a serious impact on the data.
I think they’d have to get a whole task force of people (or computers) to constantly offset all the true reports, which seems like it would be cost prohibitive.
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